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  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    Dude.. resistances are capped..
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    [Gefecht (allein)] Ihre Entropische Neuverteilung III fügt 93051 (48293) Physischer Schaden(Critical) bei **** zu.



    I already posted that line of entropic redestribution 3 ... it was against a player who played a tank command cruiser as engineering captain..
    He used all those stuff like aux2sif and so on.. he used everything to make himself as tanky as possible..
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    How do your figures differ from a torpedo impact or from one of my terran DHC? Only bypass shields?
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  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    I tested it out on him.. first i wasnt able to kill him on my tac escort (only with ramming speed ^^) and then i wondered if i can kill him with my epg science and yea i killed him pretty fast that way..
    So i had the direct comparison..
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    ray339 wrote: »
    I tested it out on him.. first i wasnt able to kill him on my tac escort (only with ramming speed ^^) and then i wondered if i can kill him with my epg science and yea i killed him pretty fast that way..
    So i had the direct comparison..

    Sounds fun, last time I checked pvp peeps were disappointed in invulnerability mechanics that apply up to 42 seconds out of a minute. >:)
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    felisean wrote: »
    teamwork to reach a goal is awesome and highly appreciated
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    All pvpers who are still playing just want a bit balancing to make nice premade matches a thing again without that onehit mechanics, nonstop disables and never ending powercreep..
    I see so often people trying pvp.. i see so often people who are asking for help because they wanna play pvp.. but all i can do is currently giving them a list of ships which they need cause pay2win.. but thats out of topic ..
    I just want to point out that especially the temp ops abilities are way too strong and make pvp unplayable for now..
    Ofc people talk it dead because its nearly impossible to bring new players into it :(
  • yoda2005yoda2005 Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    You guys call exotic damage to be ok.
    This is about the same as if you said a sci should do more kills than a tac.
    Sorry guys no offense, but if you have no clue on what is going on in PvP you just shouldn't comment.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    I tested it out on him.. first i wasnt able to kill him on my tac escort (only with ramming speed ^^) and then i wondered if i can kill him with my epg science and yea i killed him pretty fast that way..
    So i had the direct comparison..

    Sounds fun, last time I checked pvp peeps were disappointed in invulnerability mechanics that apply up to 42 seconds out of a minute. >:)

    Because it's ridiculous maybe?

    All the stuff that allows players to cheat death should be removed or at least a hard cap should be applied so that you can never be immune for more than a second or two. Full immunity or other ways that automatically prevent death is one of the reasons why power creep has gotten out of hand: because no one needs to worry about survival anymore when they're spamming their FAW in all directions.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    yoda2005 wrote: »
    You guys call exotic damage to be ok.
    This is about the same as if you said a sci should do more kills than a tac.
    Sorry guys no offense, but if you have no clue on what is going on in PvP you just shouldn't comment.

    The vast majority does not care about PvP. Sad? Maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless.

    This is a PvE-game and in 90% of its content, the goal is to destroy things. So each career should be able to do that. If that means PvP is suffering, then so be it, it's not relevant for the majority of the content and players.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    It has enormous pvp potential and srsly dude.. for now immunities is the only way to protect yourself of that entropic stuff..
    If you go on epg builds with entropy as a tac you can oneshot nearly every player with at least 100k+ crits phys dmg straight on hull while faw is tankable..
    I like exotic dmg and i like the "science" style.. but i shouldnt get out of hand like it does now
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Comment is all PvP related. Not interesting.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    And the majority of players? The powercreep is the reason why there are not that many pvpers left.. balance it and they come back and new ones appear..
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    Not interesting for you.. but you are the typicall selfish pve dps hero who just cares for his damage
  • sovalucardsovalucard Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    split up the abilities into PvE and PvP.
    Temporal abilities in PvE have the same debuffs like now.
    Temporal abilities in PvP should get a big nerf. Everyone is happy.
    Kinetic resistance = physical resistance. That would be better.

    The debuff and the demage of the temporal abilities are to strong for PvP.
    Without Zahl-Trait or other immunities the pvp will be a one-hit event.
    With Zahl i have 8 seconds more to prepare myself for respawn button.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    I agree with sovalucard.. there are a lot of people who wanna learn and play pvp.. fleet and even armada pvp events but stuff like entropy destroys the fun to play it..
    There is more pvp going on as u think
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    Not interesting for you.. but you are the typicall selfish pve dps hero who just cares for his damage

    Wrong.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    sovalucard wrote: »
    split up the abilities into PvE and PvP.
    Temporal abilities in PvE have the same debuffs like now.
    Temporal abilities in PvP should get a big nerf. Everyone is happy.
    Kinetic resistance = physical resistance. That would be better.

    The debuff and the demage of the temporal abilities are to strong for PvP.
    Without Zahl-Trait or other immunities the pvp will be a one-hit event.
    With Zahl i have 8 seconds more to prepare myself for respawn button.

    Sounds good. All that stuff is not needed in PvE, in PvP perhaps, keep it there then. Should work for everyone.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    Then keep your comments for yourself.. its ok if its not interesting for you but as you see it is for others
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    Then keep your comments for yourself.. its ok if its not interesting for you but as you see it is for others

    'Agree with me or shut up'.

    Yeah, not going to happen... dude.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    Idc if u agree or not.. but speaking for everyone isnt fair at this point.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    sovalucard wrote: »
    split up the abilities into PvE and PvP.

    Hasn't Borticus addressed this popular suggestion in a podcast in the past? Or am I totally making that up on my own? I could have sworn he or someone on the dev team had gone into some details about how difficult and unlikely that is to happen because of time and resources?

    It's definitely a popular suggestion though.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    Idc if u agree or not.. but speaking for everyone isnt fair at this point.

    I never said I spoke for everyone, I said that PvP is only relevant to a minority and that, content-wise, this is mostly a PvE game. Which is why, then, I said that the fact that something is needed in PvP apparently, should not be an excuse to keep these abilities as they currently are in PvE cause it distorts the game too much.

    @sovalucard 's solution should be able to fix this though, and it seems we are agreed on that so let's just leave it at that then ;)
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    There is an interview with him at the fedcon .. he said the next big thing after console release will be the improvement of pvp gameplay
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    sovalucard wrote: »
    split up the abilities into PvE and PvP.

    Hasn't Borticus addressed this popular suggestion in a podcast in the past? Or am I totally making that up on my own? I could have sworn he or someone on the dev team had gone into some details about how difficult and unlikely that is to happen because of time and resources?

    It's definitely a popular suggestion though.

    But most abilities already have their durations or effectiveness (like flanking) diminished in PvP? So I don't really understand this, it seems they can make these changes every time something new is released so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
  • sovalucardsovalucard Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    > @risian4 said:
    > This is a PvE-game and in 90% of its content, the goal is to destroy things. So each career should be able to do that. If that means PvP is suffering, then so be it, it's not relevant for the majority of the content and players.

    How many people play star trek online on PS4 and XBox at that moment?
    Zero right? Why Cryptic and PW want to release star trek online on konsols?
    Because they want that more people can play this game.

    When cryptic/PW would fix this belance problems. More people would play PvP.
    The PvP comunity would be bigger.

    whether konsole or PvP. Cryptic should make a game for all Fans and comunity parts. Not just for one (PvE on PC).
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    There i searched it for you..

    https://youtu.be/z-Ja37xJ_Lc
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    There is an interview with him at the fedcon .. he said the next big thing after console release will be the improvement of pvp gameplay
    "Big thing"? I can certainly see more communication with the PvP community being a possibility. Maybe even some QoL improvements to PvP.

    The problem with significant developments to PvP is monetizing it. PvP was never terribly popular, even when the game first launched. Today, any large PvP development would be a risk; one they would very likely not make their investment back.
  • ray339ray339 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    PvP balancing = more people = more money..
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    ray339 wrote: »
    PvP balancing = more people = more money..
    The amount of people that it would draw is unknown. So, how much money it would make is also unknown.

    PvP has never been popular with the majority. Implementing new systems, ships, gear, etc just for PvP is a huge risk. Cryptic can't just break even; they need to profit from PvP. So, whatever they implement would have to be somewhat small. At least until there was a large enough group of paying players to justify more content.
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    Quoting myself:
    e30ernest wrote: »
    Actually, I think this thread was created by people who want EPG nerfed.
    sovalucard wrote: »
    split up the abilities into PvE and PvP.

    Hasn't Borticus addressed this popular suggestion in a podcast in the past? Or am I totally making that up on my own? I could have sworn he or someone on the dev team had gone into some details about how difficult and unlikely that is to happen because of time and resources?

    It's definitely a popular suggestion though.

    Yeah I think I heard something like that too. It's probably one of the most popular suggestions, I am for it, but I guess it would take too much effort for their small team. For PVP balance to work, someone will have to be working on that alone full-time. I don't know if they have the resources for that.
    yoda2005 wrote: »
    Sorry guys no offense, but if you have no clue on what is going on in PvP you just shouldn't comment.

    It's comments like these that really give a negative stigma to PVP'ers. Because the changes you want will affect 90% of the game/players (PVE), then we do have the right to comment.
    ray339 wrote: »
    There i searched it for you..

    Interesting interview. He didn't really give a promise that they are working on PVP. He simply said that they are "talking about it" and they will potentially have something next year. Hopefully that holds true for your sake.
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