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T6 NX Franklin Class would be cool.
lordgyor
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Just a Suggestion, a T6 NX Franklin Kelvin Timeline ship, who would be a cool upgrade to the T1 NX class ship.
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and according to some, the NX class was a ripoff of the Akira class.
your point?
The Narada incursion into the Kelvin Timeline altered history up and down the timeline because time isn't linear, therefore maybe the Enterprise NX-01 was actually slower than the Franklin within that reality.
Would also explain the Blingons and the poor hairless Caitans.
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Very easy to explain the ship numbers. Regular ship numbering whereas, the NX-01 was the first of experimental Warp 5 ships, hence the NX and low number. And to the rip-off of the NX-01, if it preceded it then that was the saucer design/nacelle placement of the time. So in effect the NX-01 'ripped' it off.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
*buzzer* EEHHHH!!! Sorry it doesn't work like that. KT universe was the same up until the Narada entered and destroyed the Kelvin. You don't suddenly rewrite history prior to that point just because "Reasons".
That one is simply bad writing.
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According to Simon Pegg, who was one of the writers of this film, the quantum mechanics at work with the temporal event that happened when the Narada destroyed the Kelvin, had a rippling effect up and down the timeline. So things can and will be different both before and after the Kelvin incident.
Now kindly "Get to your Kelvin Pods" and abandon this thread people!
Ok, now I just want to pull a "Log Horizon Akatsuki Face kick" on Simon Pegg. Let's toss temporal mechanics right out the window here.
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It's also quite possible that after the founding of the Federation all existing Star Fleet ships were renumbered.
For all we know the Franklin could have had a completely different prefix and number when it was launched.
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I would pay 6k zen for that console alone!
Star Trek itself has many instances where time travel was massively inconsistent. Nit picking the plot of a Star Trek show and/or movie is fun, but ultimately fruitless.
Besides, it is so much more fun and productive to find ways to make it "fit", rather than just complain about it.
That use to be the norm with Trek fans, take what's given and "squeeze it in" in some fashion that seems reasonable...
Not just bee-itch about it and tear it to shreds because it doesn't align to our own personal head-canon.
People talk about being a "True/Real Trek" fan...,
A "SINCERE" fan, doesn't seriously tear the thing down, they look for ways to build it up and revere it.
smh
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Personally, given how small the Franklin is, maybe it could be treated as a large shuttle rather than a main ship. Cause no way would it be a T6 ship. I'd be curious to see how its rock music attack console works, though.
Why would you think that? Current US armed forces have unique prefixes for experimental craft. For fighter planes, for example, in its test phase the F-18 was known as a YF-18 before it was approved for production. It's actually a bit silly to think Starfleet didn't have a prefix for experimental craft before the NX-01 Enterprise. The 1 doesn't at all mean it had to be the first experimental ship, just the first in that particular series or class/designation.
He just said that it was likely they DID have a NX prefix before the NX01. And the current US armed forces have nothing to do with Starfleet registry processes. If they did there would be a whole lot of stuff with the same designations... M1 Rifle, M1 carbine, M1 81mm mortar, M1 MBT, etc....
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i have seen "Franklin" name few times, it was one of the most advanced than other original NX model at that time. remember Drake Franklin? was he another agent of time temporal "watcher"? was he from past? was he a father of "Enterprise" navigator Franklin pilot for captain archer?
he said he was part of family of cargo runners and claimed that his father "died" saving the crews and families when they got boarded.
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Also, Daniels says the following quote in Terminal Expanse at the start of the mission:
They found themselves in 2233 and later destroyed the U.S.S. Kelvin in battle. This caused their timeline to differ from ours - as a result, we now refer to it as the Kelvin Timeline.
We believe the Sphere Builders communicate with their operatives through the rift.
So there is no difference between the Kelvin Universe and any of the alternate realities seen in the Parallels episode and would have been one of those ships if Nero didn't change their future. According to STO, the Kelvin Universe wasn't created by Nero destroying the USS Kelvin, but has existed as long as the STO Universe has which we assume to be almost 14 billion years. Therefore, there can be certain differences between pre-2233 STO Universe and pre-2233 Kelvin Universe that can't be explained by a temporal rippling effect like Human Caitians.
The Kelvin Universe is a completely different Star Trek Universe so it doesn't need to have the same aliens or history as the Prime Universe. The Borg and Dominion might not even exist in the Kelvin Universe. In fact, it is better to create their own major villains instead of using the same villains we know.
There were several instances where, in the original timeline, the storyline took characters into the past before the Kelvin Incident. Biggest, easiest example is "ST: The Voyage Home.". What if:
1. KT Kirk somehow want allergic to Retinax V, so didn't need glasses, thus Bones didn't give an antique pair to him as a gift, and so had to sell something else in today's San Francisco? What ripples would just that cause?
2. The events of ST III didn't happen, leading to them being in the Enterprise instead of a BoP? Many potential ripples here:
a. They would not have landed in the park, and would never have scared the garbage men. Who knows how that impacted their lives? Maybe in The Original Storyline (TOS?) they were so frightened they quit their jobs, and one picked up his hobby of Ham Radio, and subsequently invents subspace radio long before it should have been? Or he went out drinking instead of going home and having a romantic evening with his wife, and their daughter wasn't conceived, so never went on to become an influential President of the United States?
b. With the resources of the Enterprise, would they have needed to construct a whale enclosure? At very least, would they need to trade future tech (transparent aluminum) for plexiglass?
c. Without Spock dying (his death was caused by Khan, who is already out of the picture) would his actions in San Fransisco be different? Without giving the nerve pinch to the punk rocker, would the kid be on time to an audition, starting his band off on a string of number one hits, one of which, calling for social justice for the oppressed, spurred off a new social revolution?
3. Perhaps most simply, what if KT ships and weapons were able to deal with the Whale Probe long before it ever became a threat to Earth?
There are, of course, countless other examples of how just this one story would have run differently in the KT, giving us countless ripples that would influence the timeline leading up to the Kelvin Incident itself. I don't have to like it (really, I don't) but the logic is sound.