Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
I play KDF and Romulans more often than my Federation characters. I mean I can't speak for the rest of the KDF and Romulan players, but I'm pretty happy with how they've been handled.
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
I play KDF and Romulans more often than my Federation characters. I mean I can't speak for the rest of the KDF and Romulan players, but I'm pretty happy with how they've been handled.
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
I play KDF and Romulans more often than my Federation characters. I mean I can't speak for the rest of the KDF and Romulan players, but I'm pretty happy with how they've been handled.
are you SURE you play?
Yup! I'm actually working at the exchange right now to generate some EC to purchase some stuff from the Kelvin lockbox when it comes out.
Waiting for the rubes to be fleeced allows me lots of time to spend on the STO forums.
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
Define meaningful. I'm not sure I get the context or where you're going with that. What is playing in a meaningful way?
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
Define meaningful. I'm not sure I get the context or where you're going with that. What is playing in a meaningful way?
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
I play KDF and Romulans more often than my Federation characters. I mean I can't speak for the rest of the KDF and Romulan players, but I'm pretty happy with how they've been handled.
Then yeah, your standards are just really, really low. Not that that's out of the ordinary--low standards abounds in STO, it seems.
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
Alternatively, the people who are particularly happy with how they've handled KDF and Roms are those who don't regularly play KDF or Romulans in any meaningful way.
Define meaningful. I'm not sure I get the context or where you're going with that. What is playing in a meaningful way?
As a main character--a primary character--not just an alt you bank dil and contraband on. A character, or at the very least a faction, that you play more than any other.
I like all of these ideas. Personally I think that some of the old PvE queues, like Starbase 24, should be opened up as battlezones instead of queues. I think perhaps rewards should be increased to attract more interest. I do agree that ground combat needs work. Starting by making our bridge officers function more like the player captain would help- kits, secondary weapons, perhaps better AI.
I just want to be able to arrange my BOFFs on my HUD the way I want them. And to be able to select which skills of theirs to use in flight. It's ridiculous having everyone leveled up to Commander, but I can only use the Ensign skill that just tickles the enemy a little bit after you reach Admiral.
A Deferi centered expansion, promoting them to subfaction status with their own ships, gear, social and battlezones
"Star Trek Online - Whole Hog"
Targ handling kits for Klingons, playable humanoid Targ characters, Tellarite model overhaul, Tellarite starships, Mud baths, customizable sleeping basket
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Define meaningful. I'm not sure I get the context or where you're going with that. What is playing in a meaningful way?
As a main character--a primary character--not just an alt you bank dil and contraband on. A character, or at the very least a faction, that you play more than any other.
I kinda feel insulted. The red part seems to suggest that either you're a DIE HARD fan or you're nothing. I've been playing KDF long enough to remember the ORIGINAL First City and the old not-a-tutorial. Do I spend more time playing Fed? yes... so?
A Deferi centered expansion, promoting them to subfaction status with their own ships, gear, social and battlezones
this would actually be kinda cool, and they're already perfectly lined up for the whole "choose a side" meta. They're also in a spot in the plotline where unlocking a mini-faction would work out well
I'd like to see more quality of life / server stability / bug fixes applied as a new season. I'd also like to see the Rom's and & KDf get alot more love at the expense of Feds. But I'd also like to see someone other then Geko run things for a while so that the feds take a back seat. This however is unlikely to happen, hell it's never going to happen. But a whole season devouted to bug fixes , server stability might improve the game.
Imho, ground combat is practically unplayable it's so horribly designed.
You're either kidding or have yet to figure out how ground combat works, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not kidding, I know how to do it and how it works, been playing since beta. Ground is just, IMHO, the most horribly designed combat system in any game I've ever played. It doesn't know if it wants to be a third-person shooter or an actual MMO, and most kit abilities are just plain boring. I'd actually enjoy it if they either went full blown shooter, or full blown MMO, but as it is there is nothing I HATE more in this game than ground combat. From top to bottom there is nothing engaging, entertaining, or enjoyable about it in the least.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, space combat is, imho, a work of pure genius, I just wish I could turn off some of the visual effects. Space combat is literally the only reason I didn't quit back on day one, and it still is the only reason I play.
I could show you how to do it right.
Only way you could make me enjoy ground combat is if you reprogrammed it to either play more like a real third-person shooter (Gears of War, Resident Evil 4-6, etc) or more like a traditional MMO (WoW).
Anyway, here's my take on PVP and how I think it could be turned into a fun gameplay mode.
in short, MONSTERPLAY ... become the enemy faction in historic battles using historic friendly and enemy ships. Primary goals are mission objectives like escorting a BORG cube to sector 001, while the other team is trying to stop it in their feeble mirandas and soyuzs.
No balance issues, because you only use prebuild ships. More teamplay, because the goal is more important than the kill count.
this would actually be kinda cool, and they're already perfectly lined up for the whole "choose a side" meta. They're also in a spot in the plotline where unlocking a mini-faction would work out well
@kodachikuno
It was the serious part of my suggestion for a reason
Unfortunately, a lot of possibilities with this setup are no longer on the table. Prior to the whole unification thing they would have the perfect choice for the cross-faction fraction. The Deferi would join the opposing factions and fight against each other not because they somehow hate each other but because they have to keep the balance. So they support Feds and Klingons not out of ill-will toward their own but because it's the natural balance, tie in with exploration strange new alien mentalities here. Of course all the while they push for peace and when the war finally ends it's a preferable form of balance that is achieved.
The Breen and Borg plots involving ancient preserver tech would have worked, but that has been botched now due to the Iconian and time travel plots. The Defera Visitor Centre could have been made a full fledged social map including the shuttle port for transportation somewhere else, Federation and Klingon influences would have create hybrid technology of both realms visible in ships and gear and maybe most important Cryptic could have created their own thing set in the star Trek universe without TRIBBLE with established lore too much and without desperately building everything around show references.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Well, If it played more like WoW and had enough attack abilities to get a good MMO rotation down (such as the various secondary fire functions all being abilities instead), I'd enjoy it as well.
Gamma quadrant expansion and Cardassian/Dominion faction
Cardassia and /or Ferenginar city adventure zone, playable Cardassian (probably in budle with cardie ships), Mark Alaimo voice-over for returning villain Dukat. Vote for Dukat in STO
Well, If it played more like WoW and had enough attack abilities to get a good MMO rotation down (such as the various secondary fire functions all being abilities instead), I'd enjoy it as well.
I cycle kit powers so much that I don't need to worry that much. The trick, to me, is to NOT use the mouse unless I want to manually target something. All abilities have a bind, and I tap the numeric keypad to activate them.
Cryptic could have created their own thing set in the star Trek universe without **** with established lore too much and without desperately building everything around show references.
And strangely I've run into people who violently and vehemently feel that doing something "new" is "not trek" and has no place in STO.... because you know, they never did anything new on the shows.
And strangely I've run into people who violently and vehemently feel that doing something "new" is "not trek" and has no place in STO.... because you know, they never did anything new on the shows.
The most memorable Star Trek games of all times - 25th Anniversary, Judgement Rites and A Final Unity - feel as if they're directly taken from the shows, but use very little actual show reference and all invent their own storylines. AFU even invented a whole Romulan client state so they could do a unqiue storyline and it felt organic. One just has to be sensible and try to let one's creation harmonize with the established universe, not radically smash into things. The Deferi were a good idea, a shame they almost immedeatly dropped it.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
But some of us have lower standards and lowered expectations for STO.
I certainly wish there was more KDF and Romulan stuff (more KDF than Romulan, to be honest). But ultimately, I have a faction story-line, I can join all the faction-agnostic stuff, some cool Klingon characters exist, stuff from the shows was used to tell an interesting story, and I have a bunch of KDF ships I can fly. Only thing really rounding things up by now is a Tier 6 Vor'Cha and perhaps a Tier 6 K'tinga.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Still hoping we get a expansion or even a small scale event in the future, that takes us into Undine space to explore a truly unknown frontier, and then having a lockbox go with it. Could have it start with several Undine ships breaking thru into our universe near the main faction worlds, with them being quite heavily damaged by unknown weapon energy signatures. Which could than prompt us to explore into the Undine space for the cause of such strange behavior, while also seeking out what in Undine fluidic space would have been able to do such damage to them, and have come up so quickly to rival them in power in their own universe.
Conversely It could start with a massive structure or fluidic space anomaly phasing in an out of several of the sectors in the alpha an beta quads, which would bring alot of attention from all three factions to investigate these places it phased into. Than it could be our captains investigating the effects of this structure or anomaly from fluidic space has on these areas of space, as well as the worlds in these areas, before later on traveling into fluidic space to seek out the reasons for this thing to be phasing in an out of our own space an fluidic space. This could lead into events of what happened after the Undine arc was finished an the time we spent in the delta, as well as during the Iconian wars, while also nice time to see what other beings might exist in their universe they missed.
They dropped it because there was an absolutely massive backlash on the forums because Cryptic dared to add anything new to Star Trek lore.
People made it clear, they don't want to see 100% new things, they want to see things from the TV shows that they have a connection and investment in.
A shame, really. While I appreciate the odd reference, easter egg or nod here and there I'd welcome to play an original, unqiue story and not just walk in the footsteps of the show's characters all the time.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Good god what is this community's obsession with additional factions when the developers have demonstrated over and over again they can't even be bothered to support the existing factions, aside from Feds, as it is.
Because some of us are happy (or at least satisfied) with how they've handled the KDF and Romulans. You apparently have higher standards, which isn't a bad thing.
But some of us have lower standards and lowered expectations for STO.
I certainly wish there was more KDF and Romulan stuff (more KDF than Romulan, to be honest). But ultimately, I have a faction story-line, I can join all the faction-agnostic stuff, some cool Klingon characters exist, stuff from the shows was used to tell an interesting story, and I have a bunch of KDF ships I can fly. Only thing really rounding things up by now is a Tier 6 Vor'Cha and perhaps a Tier 6 K'tinga.
Oh, for sure. I'm all for additional KDF and Romulan content, particularly when it comes to things like some more science ships. I won't even say that things are perfect the way they currently are.
But I'd rather see a Star Trek Online with additional factions, no matter how thin the content is compared to the Federation.
STO is pretty much just a queue for CCA and ISA at the endgame anyway no matter what faction you are.
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I play KDF and Romulans more often than my Federation characters. I mean I can't speak for the rest of the KDF and Romulan players, but I'm pretty happy with how they've been handled.
are you SURE you play?
Yup! I'm actually working at the exchange right now to generate some EC to purchase some stuff from the Kelvin lockbox when it comes out.
Waiting for the rubes to be fleeced allows me lots of time to spend on the STO forums.
Define meaningful. I'm not sure I get the context or where you're going with that. What is playing in a meaningful way?
Yeah, this seems to be one of the things.
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Then yeah, your standards are just really, really low. Not that that's out of the ordinary--low standards abounds in STO, it seems.
As a main character--a primary character--not just an alt you bank dil and contraband on. A character, or at the very least a faction, that you play more than any other.
KDF: 2 tacs, 2 engs, 3 scis
KDF Roms: 3 tacs, 1 eng, 1 scis
FED: 2 tacs, 1 eng, 2 scis
TOS: 1 tac
all on T5 rep (up to temporal)
all have mastered Intel tree (and some more specs Points)
highest DPS: 60.982
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A Deferi centered expansion, promoting them to subfaction status with their own ships, gear, social and battlezones
"Star Trek Online - Whole Hog"
Targ handling kits for Klingons, playable humanoid Targ characters, Tellarite model overhaul, Tellarite starships, Mud baths, customizable sleeping basket
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this would actually be kinda cool, and they're already perfectly lined up for the whole "choose a side" meta. They're also in a spot in the plotline where unlocking a mini-faction would work out well
Only way you could make me enjoy ground combat is if you reprogrammed it to either play more like a real third-person shooter (Gears of War, Resident Evil 4-6, etc) or more like a traditional MMO (WoW).
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it is in STO, because of it's poor implementation
Anyway, here's my take on PVP and how I think it could be turned into a fun gameplay mode.
in short, MONSTERPLAY ... become the enemy faction in historic battles using historic friendly and enemy ships. Primary goals are mission objectives like escorting a BORG cube to sector 001, while the other team is trying to stop it in their feeble mirandas and soyuzs.
No balance issues, because you only use prebuild ships. More teamplay, because the goal is more important than the kill count.
It was the serious part of my suggestion for a reason
Unfortunately, a lot of possibilities with this setup are no longer on the table. Prior to the whole unification thing they would have the perfect choice for the cross-faction fraction. The Deferi would join the opposing factions and fight against each other not because they somehow hate each other but because they have to keep the balance. So they support Feds and Klingons not out of ill-will toward their own but because it's the natural balance, tie in with exploration strange new alien mentalities here. Of course all the while they push for peace and when the war finally ends it's a preferable form of balance that is achieved.
The Breen and Borg plots involving ancient preserver tech would have worked, but that has been botched now due to the Iconian and time travel plots. The Defera Visitor Centre could have been made a full fledged social map including the shuttle port for transportation somewhere else, Federation and Klingon influences would have create hybrid technology of both realms visible in ships and gear and maybe most important Cryptic could have created their own thing set in the star Trek universe without TRIBBLE with established lore too much and without desperately building everything around show references.
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Well, If it played more like WoW and had enough attack abilities to get a good MMO rotation down (such as the various secondary fire functions all being abilities instead), I'd enjoy it as well.
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And strangely I've run into people who violently and vehemently feel that doing something "new" is "not trek" and has no place in STO.... because you know, they never did anything new on the shows.
The most memorable Star Trek games of all times - 25th Anniversary, Judgement Rites and A Final Unity - feel as if they're directly taken from the shows, but use very little actual show reference and all invent their own storylines. AFU even invented a whole Romulan client state so they could do a unqiue storyline and it felt organic. One just has to be sensible and try to let one's creation harmonize with the established universe, not radically smash into things. The Deferi were a good idea, a shame they almost immedeatly dropped it.
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Conversely It could start with a massive structure or fluidic space anomaly phasing in an out of several of the sectors in the alpha an beta quads, which would bring alot of attention from all three factions to investigate these places it phased into. Than it could be our captains investigating the effects of this structure or anomaly from fluidic space has on these areas of space, as well as the worlds in these areas, before later on traveling into fluidic space to seek out the reasons for this thing to be phasing in an out of our own space an fluidic space. This could lead into events of what happened after the Undine arc was finished an the time we spent in the delta, as well as during the Iconian wars, while also nice time to see what other beings might exist in their universe they missed.
A shame, really. While I appreciate the odd reference, easter egg or nod here and there I'd welcome to play an original, unqiue story and not just walk in the footsteps of the show's characters all the time.
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Oh, for sure. I'm all for additional KDF and Romulan content, particularly when it comes to things like some more science ships. I won't even say that things are perfect the way they currently are.
But I'd rather see a Star Trek Online with additional factions, no matter how thin the content is compared to the Federation.
STO is pretty much just a queue for CCA and ISA at the endgame anyway no matter what faction you are.