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The Kelvin Timeline and the Klingon Warbird
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Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?
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"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way." - Captain Janeway
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"The use of the term "Warbird" in relation to the Klingons, as used in "Broken Bow", was a writer's error. Soon after the episode's production, Brannon Braga stated, "We made one mistake where in the pilot we called the Klingons' ships Warbirds, when in fact the Romulans use Warbirds and Klingons use the Bird-of-Prey. There was nothing we could do about it, and I'm sure we're going to get a lot of angry fans. But it was an honest mistake." (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 9, p. 20) "
It's staggering that the AR movies just went with such an obvious mistake. Then again, Abrams himself said he had no idea about Star Trek, so it makes sense...
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Hmm... The D4 BoP-ish thing featured far more prominently in Into Darkness, since that is the target for the cross-over, maybe those too?
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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Kind of like Tim Burton, who's said himself that he's never read a comic book. That explains Batman and Batman Returns.
Yeah...kinda pathetic. Reason number 722 why Abrams Trek should be looked at as an "alternate universe"...SERIOUSLY ALTERNATE!
Getting excited for AoY, then, Goodscotch? I seen ya post that pic all over the place.
Where is it from?
Is this actually a playable ship for the KDF side for AoY? (I haven't seen any Dev Blog on that, yet)
Or just a generic Klingon NPC ship or used in cutscenes for AoY?
Or does it have nothing to do with AoY at all?
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
As implied, from a deleted scene, from Into Darkness. The D4 is more likely to be playable, first, however.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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WOWOWOWOWOW
I didn't like the D4 in the movie (especially because there was already a D4 one hundred years earlier in Enterprise) but in this image is MUCH nicier
Hmmmm....deleted scenes? Wow....I can barely catch up with what made it on ON SCREEN.
Hubby happened to record Into the Darkness on the DVR and I fast forwarded through the movie this afternoon to see what that Cyborg was about. There really isn't much, is there? I am not sure it even says anything.
I fast forwarded to the Klingons, also, to check out the armor they were wearing. Saw the D4(s)....which flies very interestingly. I wonder how they are going to pull off all that animation and movement on STO.
Totally unbelievable scene where Khan can take out ships with one shot from a hand cannon of some sort. (That scene was kinda like watching "Die Hard"....no, not possible)
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Not much made it on screen about 0718, and he says very little. Most of the interesting parts are from stuff done outside the movies, like the comic books. He started out as a normal human, but an alien race put cybernetic implants in him basically giving him the entire contents of the Enterprise's computer in his head.
As for the JJ Klingons, this was posted to Twitter:
Memory Alpha has more info the gun Kahn uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Kahn is just bad TRIBBLE enough to wield it with just one hand.
The Warbird picture is all over the internet. Am I getting excited for AoY? Honestly...not really. I've been hoping for a T6 K'tinga...maybe now that will come in the way of the Kelvin Alternate Universe via the Warbird. But...who knows.
I am not normally looking at "Star Trek", proper, on the internet. (I go through lots of STO stuff, though....) So, the only place I have seen it is here.
It is a quite a ship. It looks Klingon, to me. (I keep seeing references to Romulans, too. I do not get that deep into things...) I am happy with just the visuals.
Each person create art adding their own energy and personality and heart during the making. It would be interesting to see how the artists in STO would bring this Warbird and the D-4 to life in the game.
Just my curiosity, though.
And you are right, who knows what will or will not be added at this point. And it is true: AoY is not for us. We can see what is happening on the face of it all....
But KDF is never announced with trumpets. It just kinda shows up, quietly, one day. Someone has spent their own time and effort (and, probably, fought and bled) to bring it to us.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Oh...thank you for that bit of info.
Well, we can only wait and see where they take the Cyborg 0718, it will be interesting to see what the Dev story writers came up with add to the game. I mean, they did devote an entire Dev Blog to him, after all.....he will, obviously play a larger role on STO.
(I don't have access to Tribble...and I wouldn't look at new missions if I did, anyways).
Yes, I saw that armor (I think in another thread?).... BUT what impressed me much more in the movie was when the man took his helmet off and we got to see the piercings in his ridges. I would LOVE that on one of my characters....my Tac Klingon. It would just carry her look over the top....I may have to age her and add scars to go with.
Ugh...it is worse than I thought. Bruce Willis can't do that justice...maybe it was more at Arnold in Terminator level.
I shall go try to look it up later on....but for now, I need to get going this morning.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
I looked up Khan's "gun" here:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Boolean_gun
It is not a weapon that is mounted and crew-operated at all. It is actually meant to be carried by hand.
I assume, the Star Trek counterpart to the LAW Anti-Tank Weapons (I got training on those when I was in the Army).
Although, in true science fiction fashion....there is no longer a back blast area, and it is much sturdier (as seen when Khan uses the weapon to physically knock the Klingons away with it). AND it is a repeating, energy weapon.
Maybe they will bring that in as a ground weapon in the game, eventually. Lockbox, maybe? My friend says they may make the D-4 lockbox, too....and cross faction.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you because of the following quote from Memory Alpha.
"Could" and "actually meant to be" do not mean the same thing.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Ah, my mistake, err, -ish. "It was, according to the novel, designed to be mounted on a tripod and manipulated by two or more people. The fact that Khan could wield it with precision and as effortlessly as a light pistol was due to his strength and abilities as an augment." Same page, down in 'Apocrypha' section. Since there's no real info in the movie itself, I guess I keyed off the novelization.
Perhaps it is a taste of the factions getting proper light artillery? I recall a few months back, when there was talk of including shoulder fired weapons, similar to those seen in ST IX, perhaps this has to do with that?
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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I just went by what was in the main part of the Wiki, what I saw in the movie....and life experience.
I have no clue what it is actually supposed to be or what it could be or how it is used in different novels.
But it would be kinda cool having it in the game...and act like Khan. (Maybe on Dyson Battle zone...on those Battle Mechs) LOL!
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
I would fly the hell out of that Cruiser.
And as both Klingons and Romulans have Bird of Prey classes why shouldn't they both have Warbird classes?
And the D4X we're getting in the lockbox is from the comic Countdown to Darkness not from the film Into Darkness. The primary difference is the size. The D4X had a grey colour, no cockpit and is about 300m (the same size as the AR Constitution give or take 60m). The D4 is green/brown has a window and is about 70m.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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The worst thing about the Warbird thing is that it's based on a mistake and they just went with it. The ship itself doesn't look terrible and could be a proper D5 or D6 in my book, the D4 looks like a B'Rel predecessor (why didn't they keep the D-designation, btw? I'd like to know what D a Vor'Cha or Negh'Var is).
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D-9, and D-10, probably.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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There is a long time between TMP and TNG. In STO the Kamarag and K'Maj would likely be the D9 (Because there's the Koro't'inga and the K't'inga refit which could be a D8.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Good point. I could imagine having different lines for different purposes. So the D4 is a proto-B'rel and the D12 was one which was retired due to faulty components. So maybe Ds to the base of 4 are Bird-of-Preys, D4, D8, D12, D16 ...
The K'tinga line of Battlecruisers might be D7, D14, D21
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"