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The Kelvin Timeline and the Klingon Warbird

goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?

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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Nice model, I'd definitely fly that D7.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,004 Arc User
    From MA:

    "The use of the term "Warbird" in relation to the Klingons, as used in "Broken Bow", was a writer's error. Soon after the episode's production, Brannon Braga stated, "We made one mistake where in the pilot we called the Klingons' ships Warbirds, when in fact the Romulans use Warbirds and Klingons use the Bird-of-Prey. There was nothing we could do about it, and I'm sure we're going to get a lot of angry fans. But it was an honest mistake." (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 9, p. 20) "

    It's staggering that the AR movies just went with such an obvious mistake. Then again, Abrams himself said he had no idea about Star Trek, so it makes sense...​​
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,671 Arc User
    That would be neat! Those were technically on screen for the 'Maru simulation, right?

    Hmm... The D4 BoP-ish thing featured far more prominently in Into Darkness, since that is the target for the cross-over, maybe those too?
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    Hopefully Klingon Battlecruiser & Romulan Warbird, this looks awesome. B)
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    As much as I'd like to see that upgunned D7, the D4 is a much more likely prospect - after all the one scene in the 2009 movie where we actually saw those cruisers was cut out.
  • sgtfloydpepper#7911 sgtfloydpepper Member Posts: 1,111 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    From MA:

    "The use of the term "Warbird" in relation to the Klingons, as used in "Broken Bow", was a writer's error. Soon after the episode's production, Brannon Braga stated, "We made one mistake where in the pilot we called the Klingons' ships Warbirds, when in fact the Romulans use Warbirds and Klingons use the Bird-of-Prey. There was nothing we could do about it, and I'm sure we're going to get a lot of angry fans. But it was an honest mistake." (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 9, p. 20) "

    It's staggering that the AR movies just went with such an obvious mistake. Then again, Abrams himself said he had no idea about Star Trek, so it makes sense...​​

    Kind of like Tim Burton, who's said himself that he's never read a comic book. That explains Batman and Batman Returns. ;)
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    From MA:

    It's staggering that the AR movies just went with such an obvious mistake. Then again, Abrams himself said he had no idea about Star Trek, so it makes sense...​​

    Yeah...kinda pathetic. Reason number 722 why Abrams Trek should be looked at as an "alternate universe"...SERIOUSLY ALTERNATE!
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?

    Getting excited for AoY, then, Goodscotch? I seen ya post that pic all over the place.

    Where is it from?
    Is this actually a playable ship for the KDF side for AoY? (I haven't seen any Dev Blog on that, yet)
    Or just a generic Klingon NPC ship or used in cutscenes for AoY?
    Or does it have nothing to do with AoY at all?
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?

    Getting excited for AoY, then, Goodscotch? I seen ya post that pic all over the place.

    Where is it from?
    Is this actually a playable ship for the KDF side for AoY? (I haven't seen any Dev Blog on that, yet)
    Or just a generic Klingon NPC ship or used in cutscenes for AoY?
    Or does it have nothing to do with AoY at all?

    As implied, from a deleted scene, from Into Darkness. The D4 is more likely to be playable, first, however.
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  • fmtucfmtuc Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »
    d4

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    WOWOWOWOWOW
    I didn't like the D4 in the movie (especially because there was already a D4 one hundred years earlier in Enterprise) but in this image is MUCH nicier
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    bltrrn wrote: »
    As implied, from a deleted scene, from Into Darkness. The D4 is more likely to be playable, first, however.

    Hmmmm....deleted scenes? Wow....I can barely catch up with what made it on ON SCREEN.

    Hubby happened to record Into the Darkness on the DVR and I fast forwarded through the movie this afternoon to see what that Cyborg was about. There really isn't much, is there? I am not sure it even says anything.

    I fast forwarded to the Klingons, also, to check out the armor they were wearing. Saw the D4(s)....which flies very interestingly. I wonder how they are going to pull off all that animation and movement on STO.

    Totally unbelievable scene where Khan can take out ships with one shot from a hand cannon of some sort. (That scene was kinda like watching "Die Hard"....no, not possible)
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,671 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    where2r1 wrote: »
    bltrrn wrote: »
    As implied, from a deleted scene, from Into Darkness. The D4 is more likely to be playable, first, however.

    Hmmmm....deleted scenes? Wow....I can barely catch up with what made it on ON SCREEN.

    Hubby happened to record Into the Darkness on the DVR and I fast forwarded through the movie this afternoon to see what that Cyborg was about. There really isn't much, is there? I am not sure it even says anything.

    I fast forwarded to the Klingons, also, to check out the armor they were wearing. Saw the D4(s)....which flies very interestingly. I wonder how they are going to pull off all that animation and movement on STO.

    Totally unbelievable scene where Khan can take out ships with one shot from a hand cannon of some sort. (That scene was kinda like watching "Die Hard"....no, not possible)

    Not much made it on screen about 0718, and he says very little. Most of the interesting parts are from stuff done outside the movies, like the comic books. He started out as a normal human, but an alien race put cybernetic implants in him basically giving him the entire contents of the Enterprise's computer in his head.

    As for the JJ Klingons, this was posted to Twitter:
    Clagdi6VAAE2Q7l.jpg

    Memory Alpha has more info the gun Kahn uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Kahn is just bad TRIBBLE enough to wield it with just one hand.
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?

    Getting excited for AoY, then, Goodscotch? I seen ya post that pic all over the place.

    The Warbird picture is all over the internet. Am I getting excited for AoY? Honestly...not really. I've been hoping for a T6 K'tinga...maybe now that will come in the way of the Kelvin Alternate Universe via the Warbird. But...who knows.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    goodscotch wrote: »
    The Warbird picture is all over the internet. Am I getting excited for AoY? Honestly...not really. I've been hoping for a T6 K'tinga...maybe now that will come in the way of the Kelvin Alternate Universe via the Warbird. But...who knows.

    I am not normally looking at "Star Trek", proper, on the internet. (I go through lots of STO stuff, though....) So, the only place I have seen it is here.

    It is a quite a ship. It looks Klingon, to me. (I keep seeing references to Romulans, too. I do not get that deep into things...) I am happy with just the visuals.

    Each person create art adding their own energy and personality and heart during the making. It would be interesting to see how the artists in STO would bring this Warbird and the D-4 to life in the game.

    Just my curiosity, though.

    And you are right, who knows what will or will not be added at this point. And it is true: AoY is not for us. We can see what is happening on the face of it all....

    But KDF is never announced with trumpets. It just kinda shows up, quietly, one day. Someone has spent their own time and effort (and, probably, fought and bled) to bring it to us.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Not much made it on screen about 0718, and he says very little. Most of the interesting parts are from stuff done outside the movies, like the comic books. He started out as a normal human, but an alien race put cybernetic implants in him basically giving him the entire contents of the Enterprise's computer in his head.

    Oh...thank you for that bit of info.

    Well, we can only wait and see where they take the Cyborg 0718, it will be interesting to see what the Dev story writers came up with add to the game. I mean, they did devote an entire Dev Blog to him, after all.....he will, obviously play a larger role on STO.

    (I don't have access to Tribble...and I wouldn't look at new missions if I did, anyways).
    tom61sto wrote: »
    As for the JJ Klingons, this was posted to Twitter:
    Clagdi6VAAE2Q7l.jpg

    Yes, I saw that armor (I think in another thread?).... BUT what impressed me much more in the movie was when the man took his helmet off and we got to see the piercings in his ridges. I would LOVE that on one of my characters....my Tac Klingon. It would just carry her look over the top....I may have to age her and add scars to go with. :)
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Memory Alpha has more info the gun Kahn uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Kahn is just bad **** enough to wield it with just one hand.

    Ugh...it is worse than I thought. Bruce Willis can't do that justice...maybe it was more at Arnold in Terminator level.

    I shall go try to look it up later on....but for now, I need to get going this morning.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Memory Alpha has more info the gun Khan uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Khan is just bad **** enough to wield it with just one hand.

    I looked up Khan's "gun" here:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Boolean_gun

    It is not a weapon that is mounted and crew-operated at all. It is actually meant to be carried by hand.

    I assume, the Star Trek counterpart to the LAW Anti-Tank Weapons (I got training on those when I was in the Army).

    Although, in true science fiction fashion....there is no longer a back blast area, and it is much sturdier (as seen when Khan uses the weapon to physically knock the Klingons away with it). AND it is a repeating, energy weapon.

    Maybe they will bring that in as a ground weapon in the game, eventually. Lockbox, maybe? My friend says they may make the D-4 lockbox, too....and cross faction. :(:(
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »

    I looked up Khan's "gun" here:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Boolean_gun

    It is not a weapon that is mounted and crew-operated at all. It is actually meant to be carried by hand.

    Sorry, but I have to disagree with you because of the following quote from Memory Alpha.
    Despite its size, the weapon could be operated with a single hand and was carried with a shoulder strap.

    "Could" and "actually meant to be" do not mean the same thing.

  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Hmmmm...could be though.
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,671 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Memory Alpha has more info the gun Khan uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Khan is just bad **** enough to wield it with just one hand.

    I looked up Khan's "gun" here:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Boolean_gun

    It is not a weapon that is mounted and crew-operated at all. It is actually meant to be carried by hand.

    I assume, the Star Trek counterpart to the LAW Anti-Tank Weapons (I got training on those when I was in the Army).

    Although, in true science fiction fashion....there is no longer a back blast area, and it is much sturdier (as seen when Khan uses the weapon to physically knock the Klingons away with it). AND it is a repeating, energy weapon.

    Maybe they will bring that in as a ground weapon in the game, eventually. Lockbox, maybe? My friend says they may make the D-4 lockbox, too....and cross faction. :(:(

    Ah, my mistake, err, -ish. "It was, according to the novel, designed to be mounted on a tripod and manipulated by two or more people. The fact that Khan could wield it with precision and as effortlessly as a light pistol was due to his strength and abilities as an augment." Same page, down in 'Apocrypha' section. Since there's no real info in the movie itself, I guess I keyed off the novelization.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    where2r1 wrote: »
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Memory Alpha has more info the gun Khan uses... It's actually supposed to be mounted and crew-operated, but Khan is just bad **** enough to wield it with just one hand.

    I looked up Khan's "gun" here:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Boolean_gun

    It is not a weapon that is mounted and crew-operated at all. It is actually meant to be carried by hand.

    I assume, the Star Trek counterpart to the LAW Anti-Tank Weapons (I got training on those when I was in the Army).

    Although, in true science fiction fashion....there is no longer a back blast area, and it is much sturdier (as seen when Khan uses the weapon to physically knock the Klingons away with it). AND it is a repeating, energy weapon.

    Maybe they will bring that in as a ground weapon in the game, eventually. Lockbox, maybe? My friend says they may make the D-4 lockbox, too....and cross faction. :(:(

    Ah, my mistake, err, -ish. "It was, according to the novel, designed to be mounted on a tripod and manipulated by two or more people. The fact that Khan could wield it with precision and as effortlessly as a light pistol was due to his strength and abilities as an augment." Same page, down in 'Apocrypha' section. Since there's no real info in the movie itself, I guess I keyed off the novelization.

    Perhaps it is a taste of the factions getting proper light artillery? I recall a few months back, when there was talk of including shoulder fired weapons, similar to those seen in ST IX, perhaps this has to do with that?
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Ah, my mistake, err, -ish. "It was, according to the novel, designed to be mounted on a tripod and manipulated by two or more people. The fact that Khan could wield it with precision and as effortlessly as a light pistol was due to his strength and abilities as an augment." Same page, down in 'Apocrypha' section. Since there's no real info in the movie itself, I guess I keyed off the novelization.

    I just went by what was in the main part of the Wiki, what I saw in the movie....and life experience.

    I have no clue what it is actually supposed to be or what it could be or how it is used in different novels.

    But it would be kinda cool having it in the game...and act like Khan. (Maybe on Dyson Battle zone...on those Battle Mechs) LOL!

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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Whaddaya think? T6 Warbird?

    STXI_KlingonWarbird_FR_001.jpg

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    The Warbirds apeared on screen in the Kobioshi Maru (I'm on my phone so probably spelt wrong) and not just the deleted scene where Nero pimp slaps forty seven of them at once.

    And as both Klingons and Romulans have Bird of Prey classes why shouldn't they both have Warbird classes?

    And the D4X we're getting in the lockbox is from the comic Countdown to Darkness not from the film Into Darkness. The primary difference is the size. The D4X had a grey colour, no cockpit and is about 300m (the same size as the AR Constitution give or take 60m). The D4 is green/brown has a window and is about 70m.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,004 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Warbirds apeared on screen in the Kobioshi Maru (I'm on my phone so probably spelt wrong) and not just the deleted scene where Nero pimp slaps forty seven of them at once.

    And as both Klingons and Romulans have Bird of Prey classes why shouldn't they both have Warbird classes?

    And the D4X we're getting in the lockbox is from the comic Countdown to Darkness not from the film Into Darkness. The primary difference is the size. The D4X had a grey colour, no cockpit and is about 300m (the same size as the AR Constitution give or take 60m). The D4 is green/brown has a window and is about 70m.

    The worst thing about the Warbird thing is that it's based on a mistake and they just went with it. The ship itself doesn't look terrible and could be a proper D5 or D6 in my book, the D4 looks like a B'Rel predecessor (why didn't they keep the D-designation, btw? I'd like to know what D a Vor'Cha or Negh'Var is).​​
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Warbirds apeared on screen in the Kobioshi Maru (I'm on my phone so probably spelt wrong) and not just the deleted scene where Nero pimp slaps forty seven of them at once.

    And as both Klingons and Romulans have Bird of Prey classes why shouldn't they both have Warbird classes?

    And the D4X we're getting in the lockbox is from the comic Countdown to Darkness not from the film Into Darkness. The primary difference is the size. The D4X had a grey colour, no cockpit and is about 300m (the same size as the AR Constitution give or take 60m). The D4 is green/brown has a window and is about 70m.

    The worst thing about the Warbird thing is that it's based on a mistake and they just went with it. The ship itself doesn't look terrible and could be a proper D5 or D6 in my book, the D4 looks like a B'Rel predecessor (why didn't they keep the D-designation, btw? I'd like to know what D a Vor'Cha or Negh'Var is).​​

    D-9, and D-10, probably.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    bltrrn wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Warbirds apeared on screen in the Kobioshi Maru (I'm on my phone so probably spelt wrong) and not just the deleted scene where Nero pimp slaps forty seven of them at once.

    And as both Klingons and Romulans have Bird of Prey classes why shouldn't they both have Warbird classes?

    And the D4X we're getting in the lockbox is from the comic Countdown to Darkness not from the film Into Darkness. The primary difference is the size. The D4X had a grey colour, no cockpit and is about 300m (the same size as the AR Constitution give or take 60m). The D4 is green/brown has a window and is about 70m.

    The worst thing about the Warbird thing is that it's based on a mistake and they just went with it. The ship itself doesn't look terrible and could be a proper D5 or D6 in my book, the D4 looks like a B'Rel predecessor (why didn't they keep the D-designation, btw? I'd like to know what D a Vor'Cha or Negh'Var is).

    D-9, and D-10, probably.

    There is a long time between TMP and TNG. In STO the Kamarag and K'Maj would likely be the D9 (Because there's the Koro't'inga and the K't'inga refit which could be a D8.​​
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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    one of their bird of prey classes was D-12, and that thing was old, so a vor'cha or negh'var would be a lot higher​​
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,004 Arc User
    one of their bird of prey classes was D-12, and that thing was old, so a vor'cha or negh'var would be a lot higher

    Good point. I could imagine having different lines for different purposes. So the D4 is a proto-B'rel and the D12 was one which was retired due to faulty components. So maybe Ds to the base of 4 are Bird-of-Preys, D4, D8, D12, D16 ...

    The K'tinga line of Battlecruisers might be D7, D14, D21​​
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    so then what is the D5 supposed to be? it doesn't seem to share design similarities (beyond superficials common to klingon battle cruisers) with the D7 or the vor'cha, and certainly not the negh'var​​
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    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
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