So all this Temporal Stuff: Fed only?

warmaker001b · May 2016

I'm seeing all this new info about all this Temporal related things, here, here with the 2 different Temporal Agent Packs.

Everything in there is Fed-centric. So nothing for KDF & Romulan Republic players? No Klingon, Romulan ships, uniforms... nothing? That is worse than the already lopsided Delta Pack. At least the Delta Pack threw in token KDF & RRW ships. This pack? Jack & S--t.

samt1996 · May 2016

Remains to be seen, plenty more blogs to come. So far it looks like TOS is kind of a new faction type but is compatible with fed ships and such somewhat like Romulans but taken a bit further. It's assumed that at max level you will merge into the main timeline and function like a normal fed character or very similarly.

So in essence it is a new faction but they made It compatible with existing FED faction probably to ease the sting of starting over again. It seems perfectly logical to me and is a good idea moving forward. We could have Cardassion-KDF sub-faction for example in the future.

irm1963 · May 2016

Just the 31st century Galactic Union ships so far. Remember the TOS stuff seems to be a new faction, so your not going to see non-faction ships and paraphernalia in there any more than you did when the Romulan packs were released.

I suspect they might be waiting to see how the TOS content is received before looking at the red and green side of that era (if they've any intentions there at all, that is). They've already got period costumes and several ships for each ready to go after all.

semalda226 · May 2016

I'm not buying it because it's all fed....kinda sad really I woulda dropped the money for the pack otherwise

farmallm · May 2016

Time will tell, they only gave us a small tease of it. I'm waiting to see more news on this before I'm really ready to play. So far I have ideas for it. For my RPing, and other stuff. But I can't really get it going until I get more information.

kyrrok · May 2016

By being Fed only, this pack saved me $129 I might have decided to spend. Good work Craptic!

tousseau · May 2016

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

warmaker001b · May 2016

farmallm wrote: »

Time will tell, they only gave us a small tease of it. I'm waiting to see more news on this before I'm really ready to play. So far I have ideas for it. For my RPing, and other stuff. But I can't really get it going until I get more information.

This isn't a small tease. There's quite a bit of new work done in there, yet not one thing in there has anything new for the KDF & Romulans. The Connie, TOS Uniforms, TOS Mirror Uniforms, TOS Command Tunic are old stuff. The ripped TOS uniforms is just a small tweak of the TOS Uniforms. But everything else in there is new.

They go through the pains on giving us Starfleet ships with a TOS flair to them, yet nothing on the KDF nor Romulans. Hell, the Roms still don't have an endgame D-7 while the T'Liss skin is hidden back at Tier 1 never to be heard from again, yet the ENT-era T'Varo skin, which predates TOS / Federation era, is there for endgame purposes.

warmaker001b · May 2016

tousseau wrote: »

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

What? The "older brother hand me down clothes" type of ships?

tousseau · May 2016

Yes, Jan... if you're refering to the Raider and Multi-Mission Science vessel, then yeah.

farmallm · May 2016

warmaker001b wrote: »

farmallm wrote: »

Time will tell, they only gave us a small tease of it. I'm waiting to see more news on this before I'm really ready to play. So far I have ideas for it. For my RPing, and other stuff. But I can't really get it going until I get more information.

This isn't a small tease. There's quite a bit of new work done in there, yet not one thing in there has anything new for the KDF & Romulans. The Connie, TOS Uniforms, TOS Mirror Uniforms, TOS Command Tunic are old stuff. The ripped TOS uniforms is just a small tweak of the TOS Uniforms. But everything else in there is new.

They go through the pains on giving us Starfleet ships with a TOS flair to them, yet nothing on the KDF nor Romulans. Hell, the Roms still don't have an endgame D-7 while the T'Liss skin is hidden back at Tier 1 never to be heard from again, yet the ENT-era T'Varo skin, which predates TOS / Federation era, is there for endgame purposes.

That is why its a small tease. They only gave us partial data.

How does this effect the current STO time line? Is it something totally different or later they join the 2410 year? What all ships we are using? They only showed us the pack to buy. What about the other ships? Their layout from the pack isn't right for a new character. What about the ones not buying the pack. What ships or stuff they get to use? What about some of these special stuff from this expansion they mentioned?

Most people are getting worked up over speculation. When they don't have the full information on this.

tousseau · May 2016

I'm guessing peole prefer the natural high they get from high blood pressure...

salazarraze · May 2016

tousseau wrote: »

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

I don't see where it says faction neutral. The Eternal class is clearly a Starfleet vessel since the blog actually says so. The Ouroboros doesn't actually say anything as far as factions go though it seems to be implied that it's a Klingon ship, since it says "puts fear into the hearts of her enemies."

bloctoad · May 2016

farmallm wrote: »

warmaker001b wrote: »

farmallm wrote: »

Time will tell, they only gave us a small tease of it. I'm waiting to see more news on this before I'm really ready to play. So far I have ideas for it. For my RPing, and other stuff. But I can't really get it going until I get more information.

This isn't a small tease. There's quite a bit of new work done in there, yet not one thing in there has anything new for the KDF & Romulans. The Connie, TOS Uniforms, TOS Mirror Uniforms, TOS Command Tunic are old stuff. The ripped TOS uniforms is just a small tweak of the TOS Uniforms. But everything else in there is new.

They go through the pains on giving us Starfleet ships with a TOS flair to them, yet nothing on the KDF nor Romulans. Hell, the Roms still don't have an endgame D-7 while the T'Liss skin is hidden back at Tier 1 never to be heard from again, yet the ENT-era T'Varo skin, which predates TOS / Federation era, is there for endgame purposes.

That is why its a small tease. They only gave us partial data.

How does this effect the current STO time line? Is it something totally different or later they join the 2410 year? What all ships we are using? They only showed us the pack to buy. What about the other ships? Their layout from the pack isn't right for a new character. What about the ones not buying the pack. What ships or stuff they get to use? What about some of these special stuff from this expansion they mentioned?

Most people are getting worked up over speculation. When they don't have the full information on this.

Actions speak louder than words. Look at Cryptic's track record and you'll see why people are worked up.

briandusel · May 2016

I'm sure they looked at the player base before deciding to do this. And most players are Fed based. Does that make it better? No, but it's always been like 60% Fed 30% KDF and 20% Romulan. Heck, the Romulan Faction doesn't even have a full story, it just has half of one and then throws in with the other two.

thekodanarmada · May 2016

briandusel wrote: »

No, but it's always been like 60% Fed 30% KDF and 20% Romulan.

What if we could be presented monthly statistic summaries of the playerbase each month or quarter? It may make the decision a whole lot easier to swallow if we knew that 90% of the total character-hours in a period were actually Fed, Fed-Rom or whathaveyou. Maybe with other breakdowns.

I can't be the only person who would find this kind of information interesting. We like to think of the factions as equal, but even an anecdotal tour through the Beta Quadrant says it is not.

briandusel · May 2016

I like that idea, a monthly report of what factions are more active. That could be very informative.

dareau · May 2016

salazarraze wrote: »

tousseau wrote: »

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

I don't see where it says faction neutral. The Eternal class is clearly a Starfleet vessel since the blog actually says so. The Ouroboros doesn't actually say anything as far as factions go though it seems to be implied that it's a Klingon ship, since it says "puts fear into the hearts of her enemies."

The Temporal Multi Mission Science & the Ouroboros(?) raider are "faction neutral" ships per a tweet from one of the Devs (CrypticCat?)

Whether that means it's going to be the "start of a trend" where all the f(r)actions get identical ships or if there's plans to "tweak" the KDF & Rom Temporal Sciences like the TMMSV is a "tweaked" Wells Class is still up in the air...

tousseau · May 2016

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1215047/apparently-the-new-aoy-ships-are-faction-neutral/p1

For Neutral ship info...

thekodanarmada · May 2016

briandusel wrote: »

I like that idea, a monthly report of what factions are more active. That could be very informative.

It needs to have a better measure behind it to be able to give us a breakdown of what constitutes active. logged in character-hours is the best I could think of off the cuff. Total character count is easy, but somewhat meaningless as alts are easily made and easily forgotten.

dracounguis · May 2016

Going back to TOS means they can make STO only have 1 faction! Muhahaha!

sinn74 · May 2016

warmaker001b wrote: »

tousseau wrote: »

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

What? The "older brother hand me down clothes" type of ships?

Yeah, we're lucky enough to get access to 2 of the, what, 10 FED ships? Thanks!

shurkhemolight · May 2016

I am on board with warmaker001b, samt1996, semalda226, kyrrok, bloctoad and sinn74 in their opinions here.

Cant for the life of me personally understand why a ton of people think that generic temporal trek ships everywhere is such a blast, oh wait, yea they get 10 more ships....

Like Kyrrok said, they saved me 129 bucks.

shurkhemolight · May 2016

tousseau wrote: »

Ummm... 2 of the ships in there are faction neutral.

Yea 2 neutral, which is what it is, and "10" fed specific ships, and "no" KE/RR ships.

So im going to pay 130 bucks for two ships, fed unis my KE/RR toons cant equip, and perks?, nah.

shurkhemolight · May 2016

tousseau wrote: »

I'm guessing peole prefer the natural high they get from high blood pressure...

Lol i can just imagine all the high blood pressure that would be around the forums if this new expansion had been totally KE or RR oriented, and they had dropped just 5 and 5 faction specific ships for each.

Funny how it never works out that way huh.

sinn74 · May 2016

Really, the only "high blood pressure" posts I've seen were very few people complaining for some reason about dev twitter feeds (wrongly, IMO), and people literally saying "TRIBBLE you" to people who don't like this announcement. And those were on reddit, anyway. I mostly see brutal honesty, though it's not like I'll claim I've read everything pertaining to it.

markhawkman · May 2016

I said it before and I'm going to keep saying it..... We don't know how many ships will be available to Romulans and KDF. There is no official confirmation that any of the T6 Galactic union ships will be Fed only.

I play everything. So yeah, I'm as interested in seeing new stuff for the Roms and KDF as anyone, but I'm not going to fly off and blindly assume that there is nothing TWO MONTHS before release.

starswordc · May 2016

markhawkman wrote: »

I said it before and I'm going to keep saying it..... We don't know how many ships will be available to Romulans and KDF. There is no official confirmation that any of the T6 Galactic union ships will be Fed only.

I play everything. So yeah, I'm as interested in seeing new stuff for the Roms and KDF as anyone, but I'm not going to fly off and blindly assume that there is nothing TWO MONTHS before release.

T5. Twice as as many Fed ships as there are KDF and Rom ships combined. One each KDF and Rom science ship, both of which are garbage. Oh, and the Dysons.

Delta Rising pack. Two each KDF and Rom ships, six Fed ships. Still no KDF or Rom T6 science ship.

Later releases: A few three-packs, three Fed-only singletons including a two-hangar carrier. The one faction that possessed a canon fighter carrier has yet to get a two-hangar carrier of its own; Klingons still await a T6 Vo'Quv.

Content since LOR: Fed writing with random Klingonese words thrown in, barely any acknowledgement that Romulans even exist as anything but NPCs. The one time there's a remotely KDF-like mission, they're written as gung-ho idiots and Kahless dies of stupidity.

You see the pattern? Why should we speculate Cryptic plans to do something when we have three straight years of past performance to the contrary?

markhawkman · May 2016

There's a difference between speculating and raging.

Also, Klingons ARE gung-ho idiots who often die of stupidity.

ltminns · May 2016

Wasn't the Dauntless and Guardian added later to the Delta Pack before it actually dropped. I believe that Legacy of Romulus added some ships after the initial announcement. They could be gauging reaction and add accordingly.

talonxv · May 2016

warmaker001b wrote: »

farmallm wrote: »

Time will tell, they only gave us a small tease of it. I'm waiting to see more news on this before I'm really ready to play. So far I have ideas for it. For my RPing, and other stuff. But I can't really get it going until I get more information.

This isn't a small tease. There's quite a bit of new work done in there, yet not one thing in there has anything new for the KDF & Romulans. The Connie, TOS Uniforms, TOS Mirror Uniforms, TOS Command Tunic are old stuff. The ripped TOS uniforms is just a small tweak of the TOS Uniforms. But everything else in there is new.

They go through the pains on giving us Starfleet ships with a TOS flair to them, yet nothing on the KDF nor Romulans. Hell, the Roms still don't have an endgame D-7 while the T'Liss skin is hidden back at Tier 1 never to be heard from again, yet the ENT-era T'Varo skin, which predates TOS / Federation era, is there for endgame purposes.

Tliss hidden back at tier 1? Umm what? Know that tier 6 pack that came out Defiant/Kor/(can't remember the Rom one), allows you to slap on the Tliss skin buddy.

So all this Temporal Stuff: Fed only?

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