Once you get that loaded & working - don't stick with the WineEngine included in the wrapper, it's very old now.
You can update the wrapper's wine engine using WineSkin Winery app, and then the wrapper's configuration app. I mention this because I don't have the issues those using PlayOnMac seem to have. The wrapper & wine engine is now pretty stable, but does crash sometimes (around once a week).
I also configured my STO to force DX9 and disable DX11 as I've found that offers more stability.
I run with the game graphics set pretty high (more than medium) on a MacBook Pro.
I don't use Steam.
I suggest installing the WineLibrary app and the STO Wrapper into their own folder to keep things simple.
Out of "the box" as downloaded the wrapper should work. To see/edit the Wine configuration for the STO wrapper itself once installed right click on the wrapper and "Show Package Contents" - inside there you can run the Wineskin.app to configure your wrapper.
About once a month I use "WineSkin Winery" to download/install a new Wine engine if there is one, then I run the Wineskin.app inside the STO wrapper to update the Wine engine that the wrapper will use to the new one. If the new Wine engine is unstable you can just go back and pick the last stable one you were using.
Hey Eighrichte how did you get on with the people you spoke with on Twitter ? Any joy ? or did you get palmed off again ?
Nope. I got one tweet a couple days later letting me know he had started talking to people, and then radio silence. No response to my request for status.
Hey Eighrichte how did you get on with the people you spoke with on Twitter ? Any joy ? or did you get palmed off again ?
Nope. I got one tweet a couple days later letting me know he had started talking to people, and then radio silence. No response to my request for status.
They aren't interested, banking on either we just stop playing or it all blows over. Best thing any Mac or former Mac user can do is stop financially supporting the game, i've made that decision, anything i acquire in game now is via the dil exchange.
Well, now that spring is here, I'd like to know when exactly they're going to shut the official STO Mac client down. That way we would at least have a firm date so we could plan accordingly.
If you people at Arc think you can just kick us Mac users out of Starfleet, then may whatever god you believe in have mercy on your souls. As the Borg are fond of saying, "Resistance is futile!"
If you people at Arc think you can just kick us Mac users out of Starfleet, then may whatever god you believe in have mercy on your souls. As the Borg are fond of saying, "Resistance is futile!"
We are the Windows. Install our OS and surrender your ships. We will add your Mac hardware and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your Mac hardware will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.”
Well, this sucks. Since the C-Store has been disabled on the STO Mac client, it looks like we're going to miss out on the current promo giveaways unless we use Wineskin or have access to a Windows computer somewhere.
does it really matter if you're gonna get some promotional items if you're gonna lose access to the game in its entirety soon anyway (unless you use Wine or another emulator, bootcamp, or have access to a windows machine.).
Well, this sucks. Since the C-Store has been disabled on the STO Mac client, it looks like we're going to miss out on the current promo giveaways unless we use Wineskin or have access to a Windows computer somewhere.
It's been 2 months. If you intend to keep playing you need to do that anyway.
That's a fair question. I'd like to get the promo items because I do intend to get a Windows computer at some point so I won't be cut off from the game entirely. It'll just be a while because I'm not balling on that level just yet, to where I can afford to go ahead and buy a new computer. Right now the only way I'll be able to get a new computer is if I build one myself, piece by piece.
In the meantime I'm going to see if I can get STO running with Play On Mac (and special thanks to misterferengi#8959 for all his help with that thus far).
Well, it'll be a while until I can afford to buy a new computer, so until then, my old iMac is all I have.
Use PlayOnMac or Crossover.
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Fluffymoof: I've got PlayOnMac working now. I have a Steam account so I downloaded STO onto it via Steam, and Steam's been crashing quite a bit but at least I was able to go into the C-Store and get the promo items. So it served its purpose. It'll tide me over til I can get a new computer.
Ok then, that's fine, I'll use my iMac to play other games, I hope STO dies.
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Ok then, that's fine, I'll use my iMac to play other games, I hope STO dies.
That's not very nice now is it?
Alot of people here have taken the time and effort to illustrate how it's still possible to play the game on the Mac.
As for playing other games on your iMac... I think your selection will be somewhat limited. Apple have never particularly marketed Macs as game playing machines (rather its marketing is pointed more towards video/music editing and certain niche business products). Which is why many developers don't bother making games for it.
Ok then, that's fine, I'll use my iMac to play other games, I hope STO dies.
That's not very nice now is it?
Alot of people here have taken the time and effort to illustrate how it's still possible to play the game on the Mac.
And even if they didn't, the 'I can't have X so nobody else should have it' mentality doesn't do anyone any good in any situation. At least 'I can't have X, let me have X!' can sometimes result in the person involved getting 'X'.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Ok then, that's fine, I'll use my iMac to play other games, I hope STO dies.
That's not very nice now is it?
Alot of people here have taken the time and effort to illustrate how it's still possible to play the game on the Mac.
As for playing other games on your iMac... I think your selection will be somewhat limited. Apple have never particularly marketed Macs as game playing machines (rather its marketing is pointed more towards video/music editing and certain niche business products). Which is why many developers don't bother making games for it.
I play via CrossOver and for multiple hours. And yeah, I have other games, even from the Mac App Store, but none I like more than STO right now.
Seriously, give CrossOver a try.
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I've been playing STO via PlayOnMac for a few days now (thanks again, misterferengi#8959 for all your help with that!), and it's been working OK. Lots of "server not responding"/disconnects, but I know that's not PlayOnMac's fault cause I got that on the old Mac client too. At least I was able to use it to do what I needed to do. I'll give CrossOver a try next.
I find the game runs just as well on PlayOnMac as it did using the Official Mac Client, although one area that is an issue is Dyson Ground Battlezone for me. I can't predict when and what action will cause it, but its the only area where i crash to desktop. It could happen with the spawning of the V-Rex's. Beaming back from a zone to Command Centre or simply hitting the M button to pull up the zone map. There's also no timing on it i could be there 5 mins or a couple of hours.
AHHHHH! I just found out about this today while trying to get the First Contact card. Thanks for the email notification. And I had bought a lifetime subscription for the game in November hoping that would encourage continued Mac Support. Silly me. At least I will be getting a refund. Use that money to buy a cheap windows machine so I can just play this game.
AHHHHH! I just found out about this today while trying to get the First Contact card. Thanks for the email notification. And I had bought a lifetime subscription for the game in November hoping that would encourage continued Mac Support. Silly me. At least I will be getting a refund. Use that money to buy a cheap windows machine so I can just play this game.
You'd better contact support regarding that refund as by all accounts when a few of us chased them about Zen refunds in particular, the reply we had was that it had already been done. This was 3-4 weeks ago.
Btw did/have you used a emulator before the announcement was made ?.
They disqualified Customers from a Zen refund on those grounds, even though at the time the emulator was used "Their" Official Client was broken and no ETA on a fix was known which stopped Customers for a 3 week period being able to access the game via "Their" Official Channel. {This doesn't apply to everyone as some may have used emulators as a preference because it gave a better performance than the Official Client, but from the correspondence we got from support about those that were using the Official Client and only used an emulator due to lack of being able to provide a service on Cryptic/PWE part it was a case of you used another means to access game refund denied}
However LTS and Zen are 2 different items so its hard to compare or know the reply you'll get asking for the LTS refund.
Ask and good luck and be sure to let us know the outcome.
AHHHHH! I just found out about this today while trying to get the First Contact card. Thanks for the email notification. And I had bought a lifetime subscription for the game in November hoping that would encourage continued Mac Support. Silly me. At least I will be getting a refund. Use that money to buy a cheap windows machine so I can just play this game.
You'd better contact support regarding that refund as by all accounts when a few of us chased them about Zen refunds in particular, the reply we had was that it had already been done. This was 3-4 weeks ago.
Btw did/have you used a emulator before the announcement was made ?.
They disqualified Customers from a Zen refund on those grounds, even though at the time the emulator was used "Their" Official Client was broken and no ETA on a fix was known which stopped Customers for a 3 week period being able to access the game via "Their" Official Channel. {This doesn't apply to everyone as some may have used emulators as a preference because it gave a better performance than the Official Client, but from the correspondence we got from support about those that were using the Official Client and only used an emulator due to lack of being able to provide a service on Cryptic/PWE part it was a case of you used another means to access game refund denied}
However LTS and Zen are 2 different items so its hard to compare or know the reply you'll get asking for the LTS refund.
I used Parallels maybe in October?? Eventually I got the game to work on my Mac and didn't use it again.
I used Parallels maybe in October?? Eventually I got the game to work on my Mac and didn't use it again.
I'd contact support anyway about the LTS if you want it, as refunds should all be done by now, and as you haven't had one 1 of 3 things has happened.
1. They flagged you as not meeting the requirements of having a refund.
2. They missed you and its a simple admin error.
3. Were waiting for you to contact them and let them know what you wanted rather than remove perks from you're account.
And no. 4 which is the conspiracy theory, the whole refund statement was nothing more than lip service (to put it in a politely) and no one got a refund as it was never the intention.
The "Mac" I'd been using was actually a Hackintosh. I'd been looking forward into going fully Mac only as the only other games I play are Blizzard games. After trying the Wine options, I sighed and went over to the Windows client.
I used Parallels maybe in October?? Eventually I got the game to work on my Mac and didn't use it again.
I'd contact support anyway about the LTS if you want it, as refunds should all be done by now, and as you haven't had one 1 of 3 things has happened.
1. They flagged you as not meeting the requirements of having a refund.
2. They missed you and its a simple admin error.
3. Were waiting for you to contact them and let them know what you wanted rather than remove perks from you're account.
And no. 4 which is the conspiracy theory, the whole refund statement was nothing more than lip service (to put it in a politely) and no one got a refund as it was never the intention.
Turns out I am not eligible because I used an emulation once back in at the start of November.
I used Parallels maybe in October?? Eventually I got the game to work on my Mac and didn't use it again.
I'd contact support anyway about the LTS if you want it, as refunds should all be done by now, and as you haven't had one 1 of 3 things has happened.
1. They flagged you as not meeting the requirements of having a refund.
2. They missed you and its a simple admin error.
3. Were waiting for you to contact them and let them know what you wanted rather than remove perks from you're account.
And no. 4 which is the conspiracy theory, the whole refund statement was nothing more than lip service (to put it in a politely) and no one got a refund as it was never the intention.
Turns out I am not eligible because I used an emulation once back in at the start of November.
Well that sucks. I don't like it but can understand the Zen stance but a Lifetime Membership is a different product altogether. I mean sure you can access the game via an emulator on a Mac but in continuing to do so you have lost any and all software support from PWE/Cryptic. Which is a deal breaker for such a large transaction and a huge loss. That software support is in my option part of the purchase of that product.
Now yes you can run bootcamp and install Windows problem solved. But unless you owe a licensed copy of Windows, its at your expense to install a platform you don't want to use in order to get software support for the game you already paid towards.
Shocking in my view. As by refunding the LTS "YOU" are losing perks from the account that can only be reinstated by repurchasing the LTS.
Just shows how valued you are as a customer of PWE/Cryptic.
I'm using PlayOnMac and have issues with Dyson Battlezone, but i also have tailor issues where any previously saved costumes or newly saved costumes are not retrievable using PlayOnMac, so have lost part (Although trivial) of my gaming experience because the platform i can afford to use is not supported and a hack job in reality to access the game.
They really should be refunding Lifetime memberships not sitting behind this you used an emulator B/S
TRIBBLE move. Sorry developers, but that's what this is.
Also why not announce this IN GAME?
Not everyone reads your forum.
I'll try wine but it would be nice to give us detailed information regarding installing WoT windows client on Wine.
You owe us (paying customers) that much.
For all the eeh.. persons that state Mac is not as good a platform for games (or anything).. well no. that's not true. the ONLY thing that's no good on macs is the pisspoor support for 3rd party videocards.
But it has PLENTY of things that are much better than Windows 10. Not that you'll ever know but we do. :-)
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Once you get that loaded & working - don't stick with the WineEngine included in the wrapper, it's very old now.
You can update the wrapper's wine engine using WineSkin Winery app, and then the wrapper's configuration app. I mention this because I don't have the issues those using PlayOnMac seem to have. The wrapper & wine engine is now pretty stable, but does crash sometimes (around once a week).
I also configured my STO to force DX9 and disable DX11 as I've found that offers more stability.
I run with the game graphics set pretty high (more than medium) on a MacBook Pro.
I don't use Steam.
I suggest installing the WineLibrary app and the STO Wrapper into their own folder to keep things simple.
Out of "the box" as downloaded the wrapper should work. To see/edit the Wine configuration for the STO wrapper itself once installed right click on the wrapper and "Show Package Contents" - inside there you can run the Wineskin.app to configure your wrapper.
About once a month I use "WineSkin Winery" to download/install a new Wine engine if there is one, then I run the Wineskin.app inside the STO wrapper to update the Wine engine that the wrapper will use to the new one. If the new Wine engine is unstable you can just go back and pick the last stable one you were using.
FYI: In documentation for the wrapper in the above link the references to http://wineskin.doh123.com are now dead and the project has officially moved to http://wineskin.urgesoftware.com/tiki-index.php
This is just another alternative, hope this helps.
Nope. I got one tweet a couple days later letting me know he had started talking to people, and then radio silence. No response to my request for status.
They aren't interested, banking on either we just stop playing or it all blows over. Best thing any Mac or former Mac user can do is stop financially supporting the game, i've made that decision, anything i acquire in game now is via the dil exchange.
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It's been 2 months. If you intend to keep playing you need to do that anyway.
That's a fair question. I'd like to get the promo items because I do intend to get a Windows computer at some point so I won't be cut off from the game entirely. It'll just be a while because I'm not balling on that level just yet, to where I can afford to go ahead and buy a new computer. Right now the only way I'll be able to get a new computer is if I build one myself, piece by piece.
In the meantime I'm going to see if I can get STO running with Play On Mac (and special thanks to misterferengi#8959 for all his help with that thus far).
Use PlayOnMac or Crossover.
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That's not very nice now is it?
Alot of people here have taken the time and effort to illustrate how it's still possible to play the game on the Mac.
As for playing other games on your iMac... I think your selection will be somewhat limited. Apple have never particularly marketed Macs as game playing machines (rather its marketing is pointed more towards video/music editing and certain niche business products). Which is why many developers don't bother making games for it.
And even if they didn't, the 'I can't have X so nobody else should have it' mentality doesn't do anyone any good in any situation. At least 'I can't have X, let me have X!' can sometimes result in the person involved getting 'X'.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I play via CrossOver and for multiple hours. And yeah, I have other games, even from the Mac App Store, but none I like more than STO right now.
Seriously, give CrossOver a try.
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You'd better contact support regarding that refund as by all accounts when a few of us chased them about Zen refunds in particular, the reply we had was that it had already been done. This was 3-4 weeks ago.
Btw did/have you used a emulator before the announcement was made ?.
They disqualified Customers from a Zen refund on those grounds, even though at the time the emulator was used "Their" Official Client was broken and no ETA on a fix was known which stopped Customers for a 3 week period being able to access the game via "Their" Official Channel. {This doesn't apply to everyone as some may have used emulators as a preference because it gave a better performance than the Official Client, but from the correspondence we got from support about those that were using the Official Client and only used an emulator due to lack of being able to provide a service on Cryptic/PWE part it was a case of you used another means to access game refund denied}
However LTS and Zen are 2 different items so its hard to compare or know the reply you'll get asking for the LTS refund.
Ask and good luck and be sure to let us know the outcome.
I used Parallels maybe in October?? Eventually I got the game to work on my Mac and didn't use it again.
I'd contact support anyway about the LTS if you want it, as refunds should all be done by now, and as you haven't had one 1 of 3 things has happened.
1. They flagged you as not meeting the requirements of having a refund.
2. They missed you and its a simple admin error.
3. Were waiting for you to contact them and let them know what you wanted rather than remove perks from you're account.
And no. 4 which is the conspiracy theory, the whole refund statement was nothing more than lip service (to put it in a politely) and no one got a refund as it was never the intention.
Turns out I am not eligible because I used an emulation once back in at the start of November.
Well that sucks. I don't like it but can understand the Zen stance but a Lifetime Membership is a different product altogether. I mean sure you can access the game via an emulator on a Mac but in continuing to do so you have lost any and all software support from PWE/Cryptic. Which is a deal breaker for such a large transaction and a huge loss. That software support is in my option part of the purchase of that product.
Now yes you can run bootcamp and install Windows problem solved. But unless you owe a licensed copy of Windows, its at your expense to install a platform you don't want to use in order to get software support for the game you already paid towards.
Shocking in my view. As by refunding the LTS "YOU" are losing perks from the account that can only be reinstated by repurchasing the LTS.
Just shows how valued you are as a customer of PWE/Cryptic.
I'm using PlayOnMac and have issues with Dyson Battlezone, but i also have tailor issues where any previously saved costumes or newly saved costumes are not retrievable using PlayOnMac, so have lost part (Although trivial) of my gaming experience because the platform i can afford to use is not supported and a hack job in reality to access the game.
They really should be refunding Lifetime memberships not sitting behind this you used an emulator B/S
Also why not announce this IN GAME?
Not everyone reads your forum.
I'll try wine but it would be nice to give us detailed information regarding installing WoT windows client on Wine.
You owe us (paying customers) that much.
For all the eeh.. persons that state Mac is not as good a platform for games (or anything).. well no. that's not true. the ONLY thing that's no good on macs is the pisspoor support for 3rd party videocards.
But it has PLENTY of things that are much better than Windows 10. Not that you'll ever know but we do. :-)