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Our T6 Flagships are on the horizon! Learn more about the next set of ships coming, heavily based on the designs of the Odyssey, Bortasqu', and Scimitar!

You can find the Federation ships here
You can find the KDF ships here
You can find the Romulan ships here

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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Look I love you guys but I'm slightly pissed off because the Romulon AND KDF versions get to break your own rules about five consoles... what gives?
  • cuchulainn74cuchulainn74 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    Forgive us for doubting, oh mighty ship artists! Those Fed ships, one and all, are beautifully done. The angularity of the Tac variant isn't my cup of tea, but it's beautiful nonetheless.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    You know I was afraid you guys would go over the top and give the science a commander slot. Now I'll safely go open my Paradox box. I may get the kdf tac version for the heck of it.
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  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Is that a typo, or does the Sojourner Class actually get one more Boff slot than the other two variants?

    EDIT: Either I looked too quickly or it's changed, and while the Sojourner has an odd layout, it is the same number of seats. Very different from the other two variants.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    Why does the Endeavour have a 4/4/3 console layout, as opposed to a 4/5/2 it logically should have to mirror the Yorktown?​​
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    Boo, no hangars on Odyssey/Bortasqu'. :p

    On a more serious note: Can the T5 flagship set be used on the T6 flagships?
    samt1996 wrote: »
    Look I love you guys but I'm slightly pissed off because the Romulon AND KDF versions get to break your own rules about five consoles... what gives?

    Excuse me?

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  • tarran61tarran61 Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    Zen sale please....... I want them all. why, because I can have them and love to try different setups on different ships but I need a zen sale.
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    KDF tactical has five tac consoles despite being a cruiser with a commander engineering, this goes against the policy they set up during Delta Rising.

    Science Scimitar has five science consoles despite not being a science ships with a commander science... again it defies their own rules though I'm sure the T5 versions do the same thing I just never payed attention because they were ugly.

    Still worth pointing out this discrepancy.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    How come You don't give us a 'downward' pylon/nacelle combination anymore with the Fed ships?
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  • karr007karr007 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    The Fed ships are quite disappointing. The Romulan ones are as expected, not having real opinion on the KDF ships.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    KDF tactical has five tac consoles despite being a cruiser with a commander engineering, this goes against the policy they set up during Delta Rising.

    Science Scimitar has five science consoles despite not being a science ships with a commander science... again it defies their own rules though I'm sure the T5 versions do the same thing I just never payed attention because they were ugly.

    Still worth pointing out this discrepancy.

    They also have it off between the Endeavour and the Yorktown, slightly favouring the tactical variant here over the others.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    samt1996 wrote: »
    KDF tactical has five tac consoles despite being a cruiser with a commander engineering, this goes against the policy they set up during Delta Rising.

    Science Scimitar has five science consoles despite not being a science ships with a commander science... again it defies their own rules though I'm sure the T5 versions do the same thing I just never payed attention because they were ugly.

    Still worth pointing out this discrepancy.

    They also have it off between the Endeavour and the Yorktown, slightly favouring the tactical variant here over the others.​​

    Would that be a "Pew Pew" thing?
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Is that right about the Martok getting 5 tac, 3 eng, 3 sci console setup? That's kind of a big change from the T5 version being 5 tac, 2 sci, 4 eng. Not that I mind but I'm just wondering if it's a typo.
  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    Well, I was thinking of getting the Fed (at the least) pack but after seeing them still not being on parity with the Rom flagships and not having any real advantages over my Fleet Yamato, I can wait to get the traits, since that's why I would buy them. Nice that they tie in with the anniversary ship. I also think Thomas did a fantastic job on them. But for now, I'll stay in my Yamato.
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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    What I want to know is if the T5 Flagship consoles work on the T6 ships?
    dalolorn wrote: »
    On a more serious note: Can the T5 flagship set be used on the T6 flagships?

    Indeed! You can use the T5 Odyssey consoles on the T6 variants. Same is true for Bortasqu' and Scimitar variants. Note that the 3 new consoles found on the T6 variants are in their own separate set.

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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    KDF tactical has five tac consoles despite being a cruiser with a commander engineering, this goes against the policy they set up during Delta Rising.

    Science Scimitar has five science consoles despite not being a science ships with a commander science... again it defies their own rules though I'm sure the T5 versions do the same thing I just never payed attention because they were ugly.

    Still worth pointing out this discrepancy.

    The T5 tac Bortasqu has 5 tac consoles and is infact the first ship ever to have 5 tac consoles in the game.
  • drazziidrazzii Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    What makes the FED "Flagships"? I feel the FED flagships are underpowered compared to their counterparts. No hangar. Stuck at the slower turn rate. No cloak (obviously, and not required on FED ships). No 5 tac consoles for the tactical version. No extra weapon power. Smaller crew. It just seems to have a moderately okay hull (only better than the romulan one) and a little higher shield modifier.

    Am I missing something?
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  • trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    Am I the only one here who noticed flagship technologies set using krenim science ship console as a set part?

    REALLY?!
    AGAIN?

    Cryptic haven't yet resolved issue of people that missed 5th anniversary ship not being able to have a full set of command battlecruiser consoles and now you are doing exacly same thing with next anniversary ship and following zenpacks?

    this is one of the most Illogical things I've noticed in game development - wasn't community whining about samsar console laud enought or what?

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  • gorngonzollagorngonzolla Member Posts: 172 Cryptic Developer
    dalolorn wrote: »
    On a more serious note: Can the T5 flagship set be used on the T6 flagships?

    Indeed! You can use the T5 Odyssey consoles on the T6 variants. Same is true for Bortasqu' and Scimitar variants. Note that the 3 new consoles found on the T6 variants are in their own separate set.

    Phil “Gorngonzolla” Zeleski
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    Lead Systems Designer
  • walligigwalligig Member Posts: 308 Arc User
    Hmm... All 3 KDF ships look amazing both stat wise and cosmetically. This is going to be a difficult choice.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    drazzii wrote: »
    What makes the FED "Flagships"? I feel the FED flagships are underpowered compared to their counterparts. No hangar. Stuck at the slower turn rate. No cloak (obviously, and not required on FED ships). No 5 tac consoles for the tactical version. No extra weapon power. Smaller crew. It just seems to have a moderately okay hull (only better than the romulan one) and a little higher shield modifier.

    Am I missing something?

    They are a bit odd for sure. I'm wondering that they traded HP for shields while the Battlecruisers for some reason get the highest HP of the bunch. But other than that, the fed ships are more balanced than the others. And smaller crew is actually an advantage as long as nobody at Cryptic bothers to rework/fix crew mechanic.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • gorngonzollagorngonzolla Member Posts: 172 Cryptic Developer
    samt1996 wrote: »
    KDF tactical has five tac consoles despite being a cruiser with a commander engineering, this goes against the policy they set up during Delta Rising.

    Science Scimitar has five science consoles despite not being a science ships with a commander science... again it defies their own rules though I'm sure the T5 versions do the same thing I just never payed attention because they were ugly.

    Still worth pointing out this discrepancy.

    These ships were made before T5-U/T6 ship rules and break the "no more than 4 consoles on an off-Commander profession". It's something we're aware of, and had to respect their stats since T6 ships are based off of T5-U stats, which are based off of T5 stats.

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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Ok, Yorktown will make the perfect replacement for my T5U Amby on my Sci Captain. Upgrade & SA as an added bonus.

    I do far prefer the Sojourner Hull, very reminiscent of the Ambasadador & Galaxy.

    Not a fan of the Fed Tact hull.

    KDF & Rom ships look great but satisfied with my lineup until a T6 Vor'cha or Kamarag comes along.

    But love the Sojourner hull, Yorktown is very nice, but Sojourner is my favorite.
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  • chrisevans34chrisevans34 Member Posts: 260 Arc User
    Question does not Mention Anything about Cloaks?? the scimitar or the Bortasqu???
  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    trejgon wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who noticed flagship technologies set using krenim science ship console as a set part?

    REALLY?!
    AGAIN?

    Cryptic haven't yet resolved issue of people that missed 5th anniversary ship not being able to have a full set of command battlecruiser consoles and now you are doing exacly same thing with next anniversary ship and following zenpacks?

    this is one of the most Illogical things I've noticed in game development - wasn't community whining about samsar console laud enought or what?

    Interestingly enough, this announcement comes about a day after the point that if you didn't start the anniversary grind, you have no chance of completing it. This is sort of odd.
  • dkeith2011dkeith2011 Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    Very disappointed that the console sets include pieces from event ships.
  • gorngonzollagorngonzolla Member Posts: 172 Cryptic Developer
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Is that right about the Martok getting 5 tac, 3 eng, 3 sci console setup? That's kind of a big change from the T5 version being 5 tac, 2 sci, 4 eng. Not that I mind but I'm just wondering if it's a typo.

    This is a typo. It is actually 5 tac, 2 sci and 4 eng as you point out.

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  • xapocalypseponyxxapocalypseponyx Member Posts: 577 Arc User
    Ships all look fine to me. Only thing is, the original Bortasqu is an amazing looking ship. Hard to top that. Still, some of those KDF Flagship images are pretty hot.

    There's a whole lot of Flagshippy goodness here. I'll probably grab the whole blasted megabundle at some point. I just have so many new ships right now, I need a moment to breath. :)
  • nikolunusnikolunus Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    Only one complaint and is just something from an engineering view, why just why are there weapon emitters on the engines? Who in Star Fleet would think its a great idea to put a phaser emitter on a warp nacelle. A high energy weapon firing from a place where you never want high energy weapons to hit or cause an inbalance in the energy flow. It just takes me out of the game when ever I see a ship firing off a beam from one of the nacelles.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    These ships were made before T5-U/T6 ship rules and break the "no more than 4 consoles on an off-Commander profession". It's something we're aware of, and had to respect their stats since T6 ships are based off of T5-U stats, which are based off of T5 stats.

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    Ah, that makes sense. They just retain their T5 stats, but it's causing quite a bit imbalance in the ship line-up. But thanks for clarifying. pig-1.gif​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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