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Worst decision ever. Feds are getting a ship with battle cloak.

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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    LAST! :smiley:
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    to much drama in the tone especially when there are worse decisions that could be made.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Eh to me cloaks both kinds being availible to the fed is not that bad at all, as cloaks just don't scream faction specific element, though as has been said both the KDF an Romulans have far more cloak-able ships than the fed by a large degree. The ship design an looks speak more to the faction for me than the functions like cloaks, while it is nice that the Romulan have one really specific thing to them that is the singularity core (wish this had more to it, and more interesting, still good.). Yet also said the non-federation factions are by far the least played an populated side, which makes sense to put more effort into in a f2p game.
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    About freaking time... I love my Defiants... but without the Battle Cloak, it always felt so inauthentic
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,667 Community Moderator
    @beameddown I don't think I've ever seen you make a short post...
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Well, at least there will no longer be a need for people to whinge for a Defiant battle cloak :D

    Better to hear people whinge against the Feds having it for the Defiant than to hear the whining for it
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    By worst mistake ever....you mean best thing they have done so far this year...yep, we are on the same page. Let's face it, of the three ships in that pack, the valiant was pretty much a dud. This makes it less of a dud. So I am okay with this.

    which is rather funny in every other way it is stronger then the kor by a good bit... which means that, probably says a lot more about the players then the ships.


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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    nightken wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    By worst mistake ever....you mean best thing they have done so far this year...yep, we are on the same page. Let's face it, of the three ships in that pack, the valiant was pretty much a dud. This makes it less of a dud. So I am okay with this.

    which is rather funny in every other way it is stronger then the kor by a good bit... which means that, probably says a lot more about the players then the ships.

    Umm...the kor has EBC...not just a BC. It has 2 universal LTC slots. It has raider flanking. If you can't make use of those things to make the kor perform over the valiant's slightly better stats...you don't deserve to fly in a BoP. And if you are a fed player who can't see beyond just the stats...well...you will never know the joys of flying a BoP anyways...so enjoy your better stats with your smug fed smile.... We all know who has the real power (the romulans).


    I fly the kor regularly, and never paid for a fed ship period. so sorry for you but I'm a smug kdf player not fed. and that the point, can be made to, the valiant doesn't need anything do the job. hell raider flanking was add because cloak is balances it self with the no shields thing and like everything added to every ship except escorts is needed cause escorts have no real weaknesses. the fact this game has the sorriest brunch players I have ever seen really doesn't change anything.

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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Thank you and it's why I will never fly another ship than my annorax until.something.more Science OP comes out for feds
    Edit also im calling you out Rattler! We need to do some ISA together!
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  • theillusivenmantheillusivenman Member Posts: 438 Arc User
    beameddown wrote: »
    klinks during all of this? NOTHING- nothing just nothing

    and now we got roms complaining they don't get anything as the game steams full ahead replacing all the old t5 ships... ya- cause roms already are the master race in the game.. feds get the selection... and klinks?

    klinks get what they ALWAYS have gotten in this game, short-end of stick

    since day one, short-end of stick
    its not new, its not going to change, klinks are never going to be a thing, and that's that

    it actually fits well to talk about klinks when your talking about the defiant? LOL

    its a novelty,

    its not ment to be a thing, real, or good in any substantial way.. its in the game for folks that love it and that's it

    those that make it work pound their chest over all the hills they had to climb to make it work while the bulk of us nod and smile-
    :)

    Precisely, the new Defiant battlecloak comes with so many strings attached that it feels like playing Klingon in meta that clearly favours Roms in damage department and Fed in everything else. Nicely put, beamed. :#

    I just don't know if that makes me happy or sad.

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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    kyrrok wrote: »
    I am not overly fond of having everything unique to the KDF/Rom ships being shipped over to the Feds without it happenning the other way. I am tired of the other two getting the short end of the stick again, and again, and again. :|

    That being said, one ship with battlecloak is not the worst thing in the world. I don't pretend to speak for all whose main is KDF, but I don't mind this one ship getting it. I am looking forward to picking up the attack ship pack. :)

    Now about those Klingon/Romulan science ships...

    This will be discussed on The SHOW this week. Expect full Sisko ;).

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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    Well take heart: whomever wants the Battle Cloak is stuck with some TRIBBLE Quad Cannons.
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    They are actually among the highest DPS cannons in the game it's just cannons in general that suck.
  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    Only because Beam Fire at Will is broken as intended! Cannons used to be the Dps king...
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  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    By the power of Sisko's Prophet Pimp Hand... the Battle (Cloak) has begun
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I guess at this time perhaps for the OP a Star Trek quote is in order. From 'Dagger of the Mind' (Slightly Revised)

    Dr. Tristan Adams: "I think I'll have to award that round to [Everyone Else] . You're fighting over your weight..."

    Time to throw in the towel on this one.
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  • bhthephoenixbhthephoenix Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    its just a tactical escort..aka defiant. The ship is sub par anyways. Any Klingon attack vessel with a battle cloak built in and 5 forward weapons will eat it for breakfast.

    There's a Klingon attack vessel with a battle cloak built in and 5 forward weapons...?
    Yes. The Battlecruiser I believe.
  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    Nope. The Mogh/Kurak has 5 forward guns, but no battlecloak.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    its just a tactical escort..aka defiant. The ship is sub par anyways. Any Klingon attack vessel with a battle cloak built in and 5 forward weapons will eat it for breakfast.

    There's a Klingon attack vessel with a battle cloak built in and 5 forward weapons...?
    Yes. The Battlecruiser I believe.

    the only battle cruiser with battle cloak is the qin with crusier weapon layout.

    the mat'ha has 5 fore and 5 tact but only regular cloak.

    no kdf ship has battle cloak and 5 fore.


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  • wolfehunterswolfehunters Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    Doesn't this violate treaties with the romulans?
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,934 Arc User
    yah, as said, not a cannon fan, and if i were there are better cannons than the quad. second, the cloak is a console, and there are far far better uses for that slot. not sure I would even consider it unless I were making a quantum bomber, using the quads and CRF to take shields down
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Doesn't this violate treaties with the romulans?

    feds don't care about treaties in less it gives them an excuse to look down on someones else. and yes it does.


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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Treaty with the Romulon's made an exception for the defiant... but it's a moot point because the Romulon empire no longer exists.

    Saying the Republic should uphold the old empire's treaties is like saying the United States is obligated to keep England's treaties.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    Treaty with the Romulon's made an exception for the defiant... but it's a moot point because the Romulon empire no longer exists.

    Saying the Republic should uphold the old empire's treaties is like saying the United States is obligated to keep England's treaties.

    were not talking about romulans keeping their word we're talking about the federation keeping theirs. which clearly they don't.

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