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What would you like to see in the T6 Defiant when it arrives?
johnnymo1
Member Posts: 697 Arc User
I would love to see a few things on the Defiant class and it's cross faction counterparts.
1. Pilot seats.
2. 5 forward weapons
3. 3 rear weapons
4. a set combination of the quad cannons, cloak and a special overpowered warp core for the class of ships.
I'm just courious as to what everyone thinks/wants out of the ships.
1. Pilot seats.
2. 5 forward weapons
3. 3 rear weapons
4. a set combination of the quad cannons, cloak and a special overpowered warp core for the class of ships.
I'm just courious as to what everyone thinks/wants out of the ships.
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It will be either 4/3 or 5/2, but will not be 5/3.
Personally, I think if it doesn't have access Pilot Maneuvers (not BoFF skills, the Pilot ship mechanic) then it's pretty much dead in the water and good only for the skin.
In my opinion, Pilot Escorts are the Gold Standard now. Everything without them, falls short of the mark. It would be a horrible waste to release a T6 Defiant without Pilot Maneuvers.
Expecting a big change of going from a 4/3 loadout to 5/2 or even 5/3 is never, ever, EVER going to happen. The biggest change Cryptic has ever done is putting a Plasma Lance on the Haakona->T6 Kara. And that's only once. Everything else has been more down to earth.
You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.
The Fed Pilot Escorts should have allowed the Defiant Skins. The KDF Pilot Escorts should have been Birds of Prey.
Agreed completely.
I also agree with your assessment of the T6 Defiant. It's going to disappoint a lot of people.
The T6 Defiant will be a 4/3 Escort without any Pilot Maneuvers. It will be the Hestia with a different skin and the forums are going to go up in flames.
It's going to be a weaker version of the T6 Phantom. If you ignore the Phantom's visuals and look at the stats, one could easily say, "T6 Defiant" because that's exactly what I did when Profits Rising came out. Phantom is the Defiant in all but name and visuals. It fixes every complaint leveled at the T5 Defiant.
But the T6 Defiant will require a Cloaking Device Console while the Phantom has it built in. The T6 Defiant will be 4/3. It will not have Pilot Maneuvers / Inspiration / Gather Intel. It *may* have Pilot Hybrid Station which is not even a guarantee. On top of that, I can guarantee it will not be a Cmdr Hybrid station.
EDIT: What could drastically change it is if S11 comes with a new Specialization and **maybe** the Defiant / B'Rel / T'Varo will be specialist ships in them, i.e. Cmdr Hybrid Stations and gimmick bonus ability.
Though i could see Defiant getting a weapon slot (if it would get one) kinda like the Patrol escort did in having a fixed/locked weapon slot with a new weapon of some sort (like the rear-mounted phaser dual-cannon). THough to me i actually think the Patrol escort would be more of a canidate for getting a pilot hybrid-seat than the Defiant,
Going by the Console and BOFF alignment of the Fleet T5U Defiant, you can guarantee it's not getting a LtCmdr SCI. LtCmdr ENG will happen instead with possibly the Ens TAC going Universal. Either the LtCmdr TAC or LtCmdr ENG will be the hybrid station.
Pilot setup... nothing else makes sense.
Mandatory Ensign Tac-slot.
4/3 weapons setup.
I wish for a dual-quantum launcher.
As for a console, the only thing I could think of is perhaps that trick she did with the Tractor Beam in preventing the Vor'cha from attacking. I could see that being an interesting power against small-to-moderate sized opponents.
Probably, but I still hold my breath for an awsome must have cannon related ship trait. I mean... it's the Defiant.
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The only thing it cannot do is use the Tactical escort skins, which is a shame.
5 tactical consoles, 4 science and 2 engineering would also be great.
In my opinion it should have a battlecloak. It cloaked in the series during a battle, so that would be awesome.
But I'm pretty sure, that the Defiant is going to have only 7 weapons and no battlecloak.
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I have to agree 100%, I have been waiting for a T6 Defiant since T6 ships launched and have the zen ready but without the pilot maneuvers i might just get the pilot ship.
Balls in Cryptics court.
I would just like to have a federation ship, which can be on the same level like the Scimitar. No need for a stupid console like that.^^
The Defiant was designed as a federation warship, so why not? It would be a well known ship from the series - and a lot of people would be happy to have a competitive ship on fed side.
I mean, it would still miss some usefull things like pets and warpshadows.
But like I said, it's not going to happen, that the fed or the kdfs will get a ship on the same level like the scimitar.... .
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If they made sure that the T6 Defiant had a console as well as a Trait that granted strong bonuses to Cannons, that would heavily encourage variety and would really help the ship IMO.
It would then become the 'go to ship' for Escort Pilots that don't want to use beams.. and there are many of them. There are a large portion of players who run BFAW just because of lack of comparable alternative. If the T6 Defiant had the ability to deal impressive damage using Cannons, I think you would see it become quite popular.
This idea would set it apart from other Escorts, and would fill a need as well. Hopefully, Cryptic considers doing something like this. The Defiant should be able to use Cannons with devastating and unparalleled results.
I would get such a trait at an instant. A counterpart for Go for the Kill except for Cannon Scatter Volley would already be a thing here.
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Feel the same way.
But despite the phantom there will be a T6 defiant released sooner or later.
When that day comes, i hope the trait is something like "overwhelming force" but boosting cannon abilities.
Only dreadnoughts can have 5/3. Never gonna happen.
The ship will certainly support the old Defiant's cloak console as usual, so a battlecloak would have to be a set bonus that upgrades it. Or else a built-in cloak which gets upgraded to battlecloak with the console. But at least its possible.
Overwhelming force is garbage.