to all People who say that NONE of those Designs look anything like a Carrier should look like, and instead all of them look like ships that are allready in the Game.....thats unfortunately true, and like also someone mentioned they should US have send them Designs, put the best ones in a Galery and again let US Decide which one to go for...this "Design your Ship" is Missleading, it should be called "Pick up a Premade Ship / Design"....thats the Reason why i Posted the Picture for a awesome looking Federation Carrier Design several Times here (and one of a Escort Design that could be a Frigatte Pet for it) but since unwanted here cause we are only suppose to choose what is given i will not post them anymore, still so extremly sad, since i was waiting for like forever for a True Federation Carrier and had that Design bookmarked long time ago just waiting for such a Opportunity to share it with the community hoping for such a contest...well we have a contest but only a half hearted, sad sad.....
Man, I'm usually against any new Fed ships before getting more KDF and Romulan, but I'll agee that the Fed side has been lacking in decent carriers. I love the Atrox look but can't stand the layout.
I suspect the creation of a true fed carrier will be deployed along side a KDF t6 update of the voquv, could be wrong, but since the devs have been seeming to deploy a "basically the same ship with same trait" for each faction as of late, I'm thinking the devs might be wanting to give feds a proper fed carrier to mirror the voquv so they can both launch the the same trait. Perhaps then the atrox and karfi will show up side by side with similar traits as well... or perhaps I have the match ups backwards and it will be atrox/voquv and whatever the fed carrier ends up being/karfi.
I so want a T6 Karfi....
I want an updated Karfi too. That's one of the reasons I've been posting that this should be a fed battlecarrier. Let them do Atrox/Voquv later. I'll save my Zen for the Fed battlecarrier and T6 Karfi. Check out my post on carrier concepts in the general discussion area for a look at what it could be like.
I'm not getting the horseshoe crab allusion but whatever, at this point it doesn't matter since neither of these picks are likely to survive to the final round. To be honest other than the Beta, none of these designs appeal to me in the least, there is no real variety here, it's like Henry Ford with the Model T saying We'll paint it any color you like, so long as it's black. This whole "Design you Ship" thing is kind of a farce.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
I voted for Beta,as i can see that more as a carrier then Alpha. But the saucer makes the ship look like a stingray.
That's my read on it as well, people are looking at the side profile and probably thinking the whole saucer is bloated like that, but if I'm looking at the lines right, there's the saucer then in the middle there's a taller arrow shaped section that I think is going to have hanger openings in the back, Then there is I'm assuming a flattened ring of decking halfway up the radius of the saucer that's lit, leading to maybe bay doors wrapping around both sides, since I think that is shuttle bay entry deck markings being illuminated, the rest of the saucer will be much like that of the Galaxy, but I think the bulk of the upper decks are devoted to hanger space.
Maybe it could be looked at as a carrier variant of the Andromeda although I have a feeling it would need to be larger?
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
I chose Alpha but personally I would like to see all designs incorporated so that it brings a whole new level to ship costume design, especially if its new ships not entirely canon to the show, it would "mix things up" so to speak
They all look typical and the same anyways, none look like a Carrier too.
With so many great online designs to draw from we get the boring and untalented ones.
Cant we just have one of them then add the others as skins for customizing the ship especially where there all so similiar?
Hmm... will only one end up in the game? They all share the same design (more or less) So will the winner and runner up make it in the game? Or will the runner up be held back for the fleet variant / T7 ?
'Bevan72' I agree there is some similarity of BETA to the Sentinel class you posted above which I find *highly appealing* visually and functionally--so thanks for posting the URL to the graphic at 3:26 after you located it. I know a lot have posted similar earlier 3D graphical references, mostly to Alpha & Omega being somewhat reminiscant of the Jupiter class of a few year earlier, and this offers a fair contrast of what the two choices may hope to offer.
Lets just hope Players take into account as the word Carrier really paints the wrong impression for most, these are mostly standard starships in a focused 'escort carrier' or 'light carrier' configuration based on a primary Tactical, Science or Engineering support role; they don't require a massive crew compliment, and typically have twice the standard 2-3 hanger bays over Standard starships with 1 bay left empty for visiting dignataries.
Navy's today classify carriers also based on their size from escort carrier, light carrier to fleet carrier; given their more focused but limited carrier role these vessels might be referred to as a FED Tactical, Science or Operations Escort Carrier / Light Carrier. It be appropriate given their lighter weapons compliment in lieu of support craft, yet it doesn't imply the Starships would suffer weaker hull, shielding or even maneuverabilty--it may even have a secondary deflector or preference for science consoles depending on its supporting role.
Carrier in Star Trek should be very careful to not imply a Star Destroyer Capital ship designed to carry upwards of 100's of TIE fighters. Still many may joke of my earlier reference to a few Sci-Fi people getting inspiration from Star Wars being misplaced; however it's frightening how the large saucer on Alpha & Omega could easily have taken significant inspiration in design elements from the Acclamator class assault ship--perhaps slightly different scale, but take off the landing struts which Voyager also had, and place the 4 warp drive in behind?
the ship in the Star Trek 2009 is not a cannon Constitution Class the Constitution Class is From Star Trek TOS and the Roddenberry Movies and the Federation ship are not meant to be imposing / threating there meant to bring a since of safety and peace and the fact the good guys are on the way. Imposing ships are more the KDF and Roms since they tend to go more the force way then the peace way.
the ship in the Star Trek 2009 is not a cannon Constitution Class the Constitution Class is From Star Trek TOS and the Roddenberry Movies and the Federation ship are not meant to be imposing / threating there meant to bring a since of safety and peace and the fact the good guys are on the way. Imposing ships are more the KDF and Roms since they tend to go more the force way then the peace way.
The Federation have a Full Carrier it is the Cantion Atrox Carrier i have that one it decently equial to the 2 KDF 2 bay carriers the one KDF get at 40 and the C-Store Carrier only the Rom dont have a 2 bay Carrier from eather c-store or from ship vinder and the oblisk is TRIBBLE
I find it funny how everyone interprets the designs to be on the smallish side to mistake them for escorts.
Seriously, look at the alpha design, specifically at the hull inlets around the bridge dome. You can actually see rows of windos there that give a sense of the real scale. This thing will be huge!
I must say i am dissapointed that in this battle Alpha Design wil win - another this kind of looking ship ? Beta should win because to be honest (sorry no one can convinced my otherwise) Federation Cruisers are not offensive enough (even for super tanking player as i am)- at least i hoped for their look in Federation Carrier (with frigate pers) that will be more rounded (looking like cannon cruiser but better in offense) but no. Another Prometheus looking ship. Sad. Tholian Carrier will say because i do not like designs like Alpha one here.
My 3 favourites are Alpha, Gamma and Omega. Those 3also look easily compatible to each other for customization. So I hope they make this into a 3 pack (no chance of getting one ship with just 3 costumes, right?)
Carrier in Star Trek should be very careful to not imply a Star Destroyer Capital ship designed to carry upwards of 100's of TIE fighters. Still many may joke of my earlier reference to a few Sci-Fi people getting inspiration from Star Wars being misplaced; however it's frightening how the large saucer on Alpha & Omega could easily have taken significant inspiration in design elements from the Acclamator class assault ship--perhaps slightly different scale, but take off the landing struts which Voyager also had, and place the 4 warp drive in behind?
I totally agree there's far too much similarity between ships from Star Wars and most of the ones presented here. It's not the first time such has occured either. Obviously that brings to mind one J.J. Abrams (The man did great with Star Wars but Star Trek is definitely not his thing.) but others have done it as well on both sides.
Looks like the Naboo Nubian wants to be the Relativity when it grows up. If it got an more obvious it would have a neon sign that read 'I am a blatant rip off!'.
I find it funny how everyone interprets the designs to be on the smallish side to mistake them for escorts.
Seriously, look at the alpha design, specifically at the hull inlets around the bridge dome. You can actually see rows of windos there that give a sense of the real scale. This thing will be huge!
Really? If you get a chance take a look at the windows on the Eclipse Intel cruiser, with those windows that ship should twice or three times it's current size, my point being a detail like windows means nothing for what scale they finally intend to make the ship.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Well you should remember the FORUM vote is only 1 of 3 places people are casting their votes. I saw far more votes for Beta on Social media at the time I looked, still we have to wait and be patient but I'd equally agree to be disapointed if Alpha is the choice.
'timelord79' posted perhaps having read others comments as many have stated Beta looked similar to a cruiser and others a science ship, even the odd suggestion of an escort. My reason for suggesting the Tac/Sci/Eng 'Escort Carrier' or 'Light Carrier' was no reference to it being an escort but the size of carrier capability being relatively small as referenced here:
If a heavy escort or cruiser can hold 1 shuttle/fighter pet that launches 2 wings of 3 (6) fighters / shuttle why is it inappropriate to correctly label them? Most hear the world 'Carrier' and think what wikipedia or most modern Navy's would label a 'Fleet Carrier' or something equivalent of a Star Destroyer--go back above and read my full post above. It's simply not consistent to portray dreadnots like the KDF Vo'quv Carrier with a crew of 2500, when most Fed or even KDF vessels typically carry 150-750 and only on rare occasion a 1000, and all that to launch 12 small fighters or 4 small Bird's of Prey?
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Gonna guess the whole bracket...
Alpha & Delta; then Alpha wins.
Theta & Omega; then Omega wins.
Then Alpha vs Omega, and Omega wins it all.
I want an updated Karfi too. That's one of the reasons I've been posting that this should be a fed battlecarrier. Let them do Atrox/Voquv later. I'll save my Zen for the Fed battlecarrier and T6 Karfi. Check out my post on carrier concepts in the general discussion area for a look at what it could be like.
Nerfing is Fraud...
Maybe it could be looked at as a carrier variant of the Andromeda although I have a feeling it would need to be larger?
Chaos is such a wonderful, WONDERFUL, thing~
I vote alpha, because it reminds me of the ark royal-class federation carrier from starfleet command, and beta looks ugly.
With so many great online designs to draw from we get the boring and untalented ones.
Cant we just have one of them then add the others as skins for customizing the ship especially where there all so similiar?
Lets just hope Players take into account as the word Carrier really paints the wrong impression for most, these are mostly standard starships in a focused 'escort carrier' or 'light carrier' configuration based on a primary Tactical, Science or Engineering support role; they don't require a massive crew compliment, and typically have twice the standard 2-3 hanger bays over Standard starships with 1 bay left empty for visiting dignataries.
Navy's today classify carriers also based on their size from escort carrier, light carrier to fleet carrier; given their more focused but limited carrier role these vessels might be referred to as a FED Tactical, Science or Operations Escort Carrier / Light Carrier. It be appropriate given their lighter weapons compliment in lieu of support craft, yet it doesn't imply the Starships would suffer weaker hull, shielding or even maneuverabilty--it may even have a secondary deflector or preference for science consoles depending on its supporting role.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier -> Look up Escort Carrier / Light Carrier.
STAR WARS INSPIRING ALPHA & OMEGA?
Carrier in Star Trek should be very careful to not imply a Star Destroyer Capital ship designed to carry upwards of 100's of TIE fighters. Still many may joke of my earlier reference to a few Sci-Fi people getting inspiration from Star Wars being misplaced; however it's frightening how the large saucer on Alpha & Omega could easily have taken significant inspiration in design elements from the Acclamator class assault ship--perhaps slightly different scale, but take off the landing struts which Voyager also had, and place the 4 warp drive in behind?
Well you almost have Alpha & Omega here minus the warp drive:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Destroyer?file=Acclamator_side_landed.jpg
That's what I think about ALL of the designs... I don't care that much for what comes out, it will be an ugly ship the same.
About this particular match, I prefere a federal ship to have two nacelles.
The others could become Carriers, but would never had been constructed with that as their primary mission.
I don't understand why you picked Alpha then?
Alpha looks way meaner than Beta.
Also make a Romulian Carrier out of the Derediz and use the Starter ship and carrier pets
But a Defiant Class As a Carrier Pet. Like the Level 40 Free KDF Carrier uses a BOP as a carrier pet
all 3 of these have 2 hangers
Seriously, look at the alpha design, specifically at the hull inlets around the bridge dome. You can actually see rows of windos there that give a sense of the real scale. This thing will be huge!
I totally agree there's far too much similarity between ships from Star Wars and most of the ones presented here. It's not the first time such has occured either. Obviously that brings to mind one J.J. Abrams (The man did great with Star Wars but Star Trek is definitely not his thing.) but others have done it as well on both sides.
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https://benmayfield.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/screen-shot-2012-01-21-at-16-22-57.png?w=549&h=235
Looks like the Naboo Nubian wants to be the Relativity when it grows up.
'timelord79' posted perhaps having read others comments as many have stated Beta looked similar to a cruiser and others a science ship, even the odd suggestion of an escort. My reason for suggesting the Tac/Sci/Eng 'Escort Carrier' or 'Light Carrier' was no reference to it being an escort but the size of carrier capability being relatively small as referenced here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier
If a heavy escort or cruiser can hold 1 shuttle/fighter pet that launches 2 wings of 3 (6) fighters / shuttle why is it inappropriate to correctly label them? Most hear the world 'Carrier' and think what wikipedia or most modern Navy's would label a 'Fleet Carrier' or something equivalent of a Star Destroyer--go back above and read my full post above. It's simply not consistent to portray dreadnots like the KDF Vo'quv Carrier with a crew of 2500, when most Fed or even KDF vessels typically carry 150-750 and only on rare occasion a 1000, and all that to launch 12 small fighters or 4 small Bird's of Prey?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Destroyer?file=Acclamator_side_landed.jpg