When science console procs do more damage than FAWIII something is clearly wrong. This new nerf prevents them from critting and severely reduces their OPness. As one of the few DHC users left in the game I want to extend my most heartfelt thanks to the DEV's even if it devalues the Nandi BFAW ship I finally caved in and blew 700 Mil ec on.
Unlike most people here I atleast try to think about what's best for the game rather than myself.
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1. I clearly stated that I myself abused it so I am most definitely affected by the change.
2. People can suck it, they act like a bunch of babies because Cryptic won't let them abuse the hell out of something anymore. I have no reason not to treat them like the children they are.
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And I haven't even finished upgrading the Iconian set.
I am neither for nor against the nerf, I can see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument for these consoles. Borticus did say the removal of crit for these consoles is a temporary stop-gap. Maybe in a few months it'll be business as usual.
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It wont help but at least its something.
Suddenly, I feel much more confident of leaving my stuff at Mk XII. 700m EC on that? I feel bad dropping 2-3m on a simple AP console off the exchange!
And that is cryptic's typical way of handling something. Instead of thinking about and trying to balance it, it will be cut altogether.
Yeah, those 50-100k crits some pulled off were ridiculously absurd, no doubt about it but just removing the chance to crit at all ist just poor handling.
This.
On to the subject at hand you really want to urinate in the wheaties of the PVE community that bad? Are you crazy? You saw the backlash from the last fix and quickly reversed course declaring it functioning as intended. Now craptic drums up an excuse to flat break something they already declared functional to level the playing field with the broken portions. Am I the only one that finds this completely batshit stupid? How about yall bring cannons and torps up to par instead. YOU DON'T INTENTIONALLY BREAK THE GAME MECHANICS.
700 million ec for a free ship. Really????
To me, this will allow other build adjustments rather than armor, splosion consoles, and tac consoles.
Flying around fawing and getting 18-20k just on splosions was/is silly.
Yeah I used it and made sure that all my ships were FAW capable at global and minimum 3 sci consoles spots for it.
Those consoles stopped me from wanting to fly BO, CSV, TS3 escort builds, because they sucked in comparison.
Yes those ships are fun to fly, but I also want to win the mission(s) lessoning the chance for failure.
I am hoping with this adjustment, it will level out my other ships sitting in dry dock so they are comparable again.
Wrong. There will be a difference as the base damage it does has been cut by 25%, in addition to the removal of crits from using it with bfaw. The only ones not affected by this at all are those who don't use these consoles.
I've seen the posts from Bort about why they just took the crits off it and according to him it was because fixing it would take too long to do in the short term.
I will never ever waste 700m ec in that lol. But again, there are players trying to have fun, and players trying to just waste everything they have lol. Good job. Only for getting an epic... lol, it makes me laugh so hard..
It's actually not that expensive to make a good build but I'm trying make the best build and that ain't cheap.
You could get Epic weapons with three good modifiers for pretty cheap comparatively. Probably a whole set for 100 Mil or less. So buy three packs of keys and sell them on the exchange. Buy the weapons you want with [CRTD]x3 or [DMG]x3 and whatever fourth mod you want and then buy $10 worth of dilithium and Superior upgrades with your leftover EC. Which should be more than enough to upgrade a set of Spire Tactical Consoles to Epic and maybe a universal like the Bionerual or Borg as well. It takes about 4-5 EC of superior upgrades and 20k dilithium to get a Spire console to Epic. Which is actually pretty cheap since dilithium is worth about 225,000 per $10 of Zen.
The Plasmonic leech is a different story, these days it's better to just be a klink or KDF aligned Rom.
Here here OP. Tottaly in agrrement with you.
The last time the tried to change FAW, it was broken for over a year if not longer. How about they actually start fixing things that are broken rather than breaking those that work....
I have.
These procs help tactical ships more than science which kinda defeats the point now doesn't it?
Hah, well of course that would've been better. I would advocate and praise a BFAW nerf of 25% in efectiveness, but lets face it, its higly improbable that any dev would touch that skill
I have to agree with darthraider. Fix the stuff before nerfing. Look at what happened to the Research consoles. They didnt just fix it, they nerfed it before we even found out what its potential. How to know what is balance if we dont even know the potential of other platforms when it is fixed?
well to be honest i don't rly care , my main ships are sci , my dmg has other sources. And the only escort i like , i play it w/o embassy consoles and with cannons.
I never did cave to temptation and put them on my non-sci ships. Glad now, their damage won't go down. Kinda bummed that they can't get Sci right. It would be nice if they could find some way to help Sci that Tacs won't take to a rediculous level...
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Doesn't anything that involves a damage number of some sort or another benefit Tacticals more than Sciences (whether it's Science plasma boosters on a "Tactical" escort/raptor, or a Tac Captain piloting a Vesta/Pathfinder/Scryer) every single time due to APA / GDF?
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with the risk of disturbing the FORCE and being assasinated .... nerf APA.
We could use some buffs to our Captain skills to give them synergy with Exotic. If say Sci fleet and/or Scattering Field gave us a sizeable buff to Exotic it would probly get the job done.
Of course, instead of actually fixing the issue, they would probly try to sell it to me as a trait at the bottom of another damniable 9-ship pack...
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That will never, ever, ever happen.
Tacs are STO's baby. Literally everything they have done since Launch has benefited Tacs in one way or another.