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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,960 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The ship releases may be lopsided, but they at least seem to make sense to me.


    For example - what should Command ships be?
    Science VEssels?
    Escorts?
    Cruisers?
    Carriers?

    I think Cruiser or Carrier makes the most sense. So if their first idea for a new specialization after Intel is Command, then it made sense to me to pick one of the two. They picked Cruiser. Cruisers always seemed to be the backbone of any fleet in Star Trek. Carriers were... well, quite frankly never depicted on screen, or if they were, they never showed any carrier abilites and were never referred to. So it makes sense to me to pick Cruiser over Carrier. Aside from the risk that maybe some KDF players would get angry because the Federation now as a "real" Carrier.

    Pilot? That screams Escort. Maybe Raider, but Raider and Escort are kinda interchangeable, with Escorts having definitely more precedence in the game to be available on all factions.



    They need to have an idea for a specialization that screams science vessel now. Or choose to fill in gaps.


    But of course, another part of the reason for the lopsided release is obviously their sales expectation. And they certainly were able to get more data for the chances of Science ships with the Delta Rising Pack - it contained 2 science vessels, and just afterwards they released a science vessel hero ship.

    Science is kinda the redheaded step child of STO - and I mean that in regards to the players. Science characters are the rarest of the 3 classes. Despite having much more offensive useful skills for PVE and PvP, and fun ground skills. Science Vessels are rarely seen, even though there have been plenty of good ones. But they are still just science, and people just want to spacebar through enemy hordes, and no matter how much Cryptic buffs or changes Science, that's not how it can ever work.



    Also kinda fun... Star Trek? Pretty much every ship we ever see are Cruisers. The Defiant is the only ship that was ever called Escort, and the Oberth was the only ship ever called science vessel in canon. That the Intrepid is a Science Vessel in STO rather than Cruiser is already a stretch.
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  • jer5488jer5488 Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Actually - there is a very strong... possibility - if you know where to look of a T6 Avenger/Mogh/Mogai coming quite soon. And the.... possibility of the Avenger is pretty funky looking.
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,187 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I just hope the Avenger gets the Weapon Systems Cruiser command. And the old Command Battlecruisers too. A Battlecruiser without that command is just no Battlecruiser.

    And i was just about to get the pilot ships. Guess i should wait a bit longer if we get the T6 Defiant and Avenger after all
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,204 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I just hope the Avenger gets the Weapon Systems Cruiser command. And the old Command Battlecruisers too. A Battlecruiser without that command is just no Battlecruiser.

    And i was just about to get the pilot ships. Guess i should wait a bit longer if we get the T6 Defiant and Avenger after all

    There's no reason to think the Avenger will deviate from its old Cruiser Command selection. It's counted as a Battlecruiser so it gets Weapon System Efficiency, Shield something-something, and the Maneuvers-something command. All Battlecruisers get that same package.

    The Command "Battlecruisers" are in fact "Flight Deck Cruisers." Their command selection reflects that and it will stay that way. The Marauder FDC, Corsair FDC, Voth Bastion FDC, and a few others more have the exact same Cruiser Command selection.
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  • kevinp011367kevinp011367 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    that is an Avenger, too many similar features and lines. It looks so much more bad azz with the longer nacelles. I'll buy it for all of my toons.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    stofsk wrote: »
    I want a dual q-torp launcher as well but I'm not getting my hopes up. Don't want my heart to get broken.

    Nah... Scatterpack shuttle hangar FTW!
  • kevinp011367kevinp011367 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    jer5488 wrote: »
    Actually - there is a very strong... possibility - if you know where to look of a T6 Avenger/Mogh/Mogai coming quite soon. And the.... possibility of the Avenger is pretty funky looking.



    Yep, the last time I went on Igmur for the leaked pictures of the Command ships, they went on sale that week. Hopefully Thursday is the day!
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,187 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    There's no reason to think the Avenger will deviate from its old Cruiser Command selection. It's counted as a Battlecruiser so it gets Weapon System Efficiency, Shield something-something, and the Maneuvers-something command. All Battlecruisers get that same package.

    The Command "Battlecruisers" are in fact "Flight Deck Cruisers." Their command selection reflects that and it will stay that way. The Marauder FDC, Corsair FDC, Voth Bastion FDC, and a few others more have the exact same Cruiser Command selection.

    You are right, unfortunately. The Command cruisers are not really Command or Battlecruisers. They are harder to handle than other Cruisers without the best Cruiser commands and they don't fill the role of Battlecruisers even if they can use Dual cannons. They are just Flight-Deck cruisers with a more appealing name so more People, like me, buy them. They deserve to get the Weapon systems Command. Cryptic/PWE decided to call them Battlecruisers now they should turn them into Battlecruisers. Because that the diffenecce to the ships you mentioned. THey are all named Flicht deck cruisers. THe command cruisers are not. They are Battlecrusiers like the Avenger so someone should either change the name to flicht deck cruisers (which would make them less popular i think) or give them the Weapons systems Command which could make them very, very popular.

    Anyway i am waiting for a T6 Avenger and Defiant.
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