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T6 Defiant coming soon!

stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
edited June 2015 in Federation Discussion
Anyone notice Tom' Paris' ship? I thought it was a new type of ship but after killing all space threats and instead of pressing the button to progress the plot I just flew in close to take a gander. Its the T6 Defiant! During the cutscenes with Tom in the bridge he is in one of the defiant bridges from the bridge pack.
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The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
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  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yes, it's the upcoming pilot ship. The KDF and Rom versions can also be seen in the Delta Flight mission.
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  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mrspidey2 wrote: »
    Yes, it's the upcoming pilot ship. The KDF and Rom versions can also be seen in the Delta Flight mission.

    Ah didn't notice the other factions. I hope KDF get a T6 B'rel Bird of Prey! If not then not interested, lol.
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    The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It's a Raptor, from the looks of it.
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  • luckychuckyluckychucky Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited April 2015
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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited April 2015

    Am I the only one that confused the Fed ship with a Narn Republic G'Quan cruiser?
  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Wonder when we'll get a T6 Fed escort that doesn't look like a Defiant. Been a while since the Phantom came out after all.
  • rmxiiirmxiii Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It remind me a lot of the Vic Viper series of ships from the Gradius games

    http://gradius.wikia.com/wiki/Vic_Viper
  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yep they will be released at some point but its your way to buy into delta fleet :) Story wise the way they did it makes perfect sense. Someone who pretty much is the only pilot with near a decade experience piloting the delta quadrant loosely we could assume designed their ships as being their leader. Then you join them using your resources to get a delta team ship ready :)

    Although with the pics I saw of these ships which one was a raptor I hope they both have battle cloaks if we want to theme them doing stuff with them just for delta quadrant purposes.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    capnmanx wrote: »
    Wonder when we'll get a T6 Fed escort that doesn't look like a Defiant. Been a while since the Phantom came out after all.

    Agreed, and the new ship just looks like a cross between the Defiant and the Phantom.

    I'm definitely not thrilled with it, no chance it will get me out of my Tempest Class Fleet Patrol Escort.
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  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    capnmanx wrote: »
    Wonder when we'll get a T6 Fed escort that doesn't look like a Defiant. Been a while since the Phantom came out after all.

    I wonder if this ship will get the Defiant skin even if it does not have a proper Defiant Spec (cloak= Intel) and looks nothing like a Defiant but more like a Phantom (which is still the true "new" defiant for me) or the Argo shuttle.

    Many times i have been told that the Phantom isn`t the new Defiant because it can't use the skin (could have been added for free instead of putting it on a new 3000 Zen ship), It doesn't look like the Defiant (the new Ship looks even less like the Defiant) or because it is not a Tac. Escort (I really doubt this will be named a Tac Escort).

    So this ship could make all the "reasons" why the Phantom isn't the Defiant invalid because, even if it gest the skin, it also isn't a Defiant

    So i like the look of that ship, it really looks interesting with the wings. I always wanted an escort with wings. But for me the Defiant skin should go to the Phantom because Defiant-Phantom have more in common than Defiant-new ship

    That said, even if i am an Engineer and prefer DBBs over DHCs i think i will get that ship.

    I don't think we will get a T6 Tempest or Avenger because they are not iconic, not canon and that would be too much T5 as T6. But a T6 Akira/Armitage is possible since the Akira is canon and (at least for me) also iconic. Or maybe a true Norway Skin this time instead of the Oslo or Steamrunners for everyone
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Finally, the whining about Cruisers Online will stop.
  • generator88generator88 Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Finally, the whining about Cruisers Online will stop.

    But will it...?

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    I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Agreed, and the new ship just looks like a cross between the Defiant and the Phantom.

    I'm definitely not thrilled with it, no chance it will get me out of my Tempest Class Fleet Patrol Escort.

    Tempest is great ship performance-wise AND story-wise, the latter because it has 4 BOff stations fitting the "Class of 2409" (You, Elsa Flores, T'Vrell, Zarva, and Kolez) perfectly.

    BUT...

    I will be getting the T6 Defiant so that I can finally complete my TV trilogy set:

    Bald White Human Engi-Officer w/ T6 Galaxy (TNG)
    Female White Human Sci-Officer w/ T6 Voyager (VOY)
    Bald Black Human Tac-Officer w/ T6 Defiant (DS9)

    The other two are easy enough to do just reach rank of Captain:
    Human Male Engi-Officer w/ Constitution (TOS)
    Human Male Tac-Officer w/ NX-01 (Enterprise)
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    The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Maybe...but you can deny that the the whining and calling this game Cruisers Online wasnt uncalled for,the last 12 Zen store ships they have released have ALL been cruisers so yeah how about a name change from CABO (Cruisers And Battlecruisers Online) to STO (Star Trek Online) where you can actually have the CHOICE of flying something that isnt a cruiser...

    P.S: Lets just hope the new T6 escort has no stealth or cloak,if i wanted either of them i would have played with a Klingon or Romulan.

    As for calling this a Cruiser (includes Battlecruisers, Dreadnoughts, Dreadnought Cruiser) game... Nope. Majority of ships are still Escorts (includes Raiders, BoP, Warbirds, and Raptors). Just cause they came out with more cruisers recently just means they are trying to balance the amount of choices to match Escorts. I say they should come out with more Sci-vessels, show those some love.

    If it has some form of battle cloak then you can have 3 choices rather than just two factions to choose from. So DOWN with your comment! Lol :P
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    The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    stolts wrote: »
    Human Male Engi-Officer w/ Constitution (TOS)
    kirk was tactical, not engineering
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    kirk was tactical, not engineering

    I beg to differ. Kirk was a Commanding Officer of a Starfleet vessel ;)

    Scope of responsibilities as a CO of any unit becomes much more than a specialist that worries about a narrow set of aspects.
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  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Majority of WHAT exactly? T1's,T2,'s,T3's,T4's and T5's which are obsolote?

    Go to the Zen store right now,click on ships then click on T6 and tell me how many escorts do you see...ONE there is ONLY one T6 to choose from.



    Hmm...you already have 3 to choose from in the T6 department and only one escort,so being this a numbers game once we get two more escorts you can ask for your new science ships until then be happy with the 3 choices you have,now remember we only have ONE escort opposed to THREE science vessels when it comes to shopping in the T6 section of the Zen store.

    P.S: Yeah yeah yeah T5's arent obsolote Yada,yada...but still if you want a T6 there are no options just the one,the Phantom which to be honest looks as flat as my prom date back in the 90's...

    P.S.2: In case you dont know what yada yada is watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kRqnfsBEc

    I know what yada-yada means. Otherwise I would have had to watch that clip. *shivers* Seinfeld... yeesh.
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    The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hey dont diss Seinfeld,its a classic along Mork & Mindy and Three's company :D

    I really dont see Seinfeld as a classic in the same level as the other two, its like some sort of twisted Laverne and Shirley to be honest, except that I really liked Lavernea and Shirley. Yada-Yada is nowhere on the same level as vodeo-doe-doe-doe.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    stolts wrote: »
    Tempest is great ship performance-wise AND story-wise, the latter because it has 4 BOff stations fitting the "Class of 2409" (You, Elsa Flores, T'Vrell, Zarva, and Kolez) perfectly.

    I got it because it's a cool looking ship that's actually not pure glass. Funny thing is, first thing I do after the tutorial is over is dismiss all the bridge officers you just named (I actually kept T'Vrell and just renamed her.) :D

    There is no other Escort with the versitility of the FPER. I fly mine with the Reciprocity Trait from the Phantom, All Hands on Deck, Desperate Repairs and Pedal to the Medal. Great ship. I probably won't buy another Escort, between the FPER and the Phantom I have all the bases covered already. That and I think the Defiant is absolutely hideous.

    The new Escort that appears in the Featured Episode isn't too bad looking, just nothing that really makes me feel like I must have it.
    stolts wrote: »
    I know what yada-yada means. Otherwise I would have had to watch that clip. *shivers* Seinfeld... yeesh.

    Agreed completely, terrible show. That and 'Friends' are the two most over hyped, over played shows in American Television history.
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  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I got it because it's a cool looking ship that's actually not pure glass. Funny thing is, first thing I do after the tutorial is over is dismiss all the bridge officers you just named (I actually kept T'Vrell and just renamed her.) :D

    There is no other Escort with the versitility of the FPER. I fly mine with the Reciprocity Trait from the Phantom, All Hands on Deck, Desperate Repairs and Pedal to the Medal. Great ship. I probably won't buy another Escort, between the FPER and the Phantom I have all the bases covered already. That and I think the Defiant is absolutely hideous.

    The new Escort that appears in the Featured Episode isn't too bad looking, just nothing that really makes me feel like I must have it.

    Agreed completely, terrible show. That and 'Friends' are the two most over hyped, over played shows in American Television history.

    I like following the story. And with the Tempest you don't have to sacrifice performance to follow a theme. So for me Flores is like my character's "big sister", T'Vrell is his love interest, while Zarva and Kolez are his close friends. I like that the tutorial gave them some depth and dialogue. Makes them more attached to my Captain having a backstory. And I know what ship to get for Flores when they allow your 1st Officer to command their own ship... Vesta, that's what she said afterall :)
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    The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
  • herbiehdykemanherbiehdykeman Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    stolts wrote: »
    I like following the story. And with the Tempest you don't have to sacrifice performance to follow a theme. So for me Flores is like my character's "big sister", T'Vrell is his love interest, while Zarva and Kolez are his close friends. I like that the tutorial gave them some depth and dialogue. Makes them more attached to my Captain having a backstory. And I know what ship to get for Flores when they allow your 1st Officer to command their own ship... Vesta, that's what she said afterall :)


    You could always do what I did, i actually created an Elisa Flores character and leveled her up to where she could command a Vesta. In this case, her Vesta is named, appropriately enough, the USS Taggart.
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  • christianmacchristianmac Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Agreed, and the new ship just looks like a cross between the Defiant and the Phantom.

    I'm definitely not thrilled with it, no chance it will get me out of my Tempest Class Fleet Patrol Escort.

    I hear that....my tempest is DEADLY
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  • khelderukkhelderuk Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If this is the T6 Defiant, I hope they take the opportunity to take a fresh look at the T5 one... Drop the cloak to a 'built in' ability on that & the Galaxy-X, and give the T5 Defiant a new console with set bonuses on the Quad-cannons and T6 console. ("'Responsive Evasion Controls' - attacks which miss your ship have a 5% chance to hit enemies within 1km instead" perhaps?)

    Or, at least make the 2-pc set upgrade the console cloak to a battle cloak.
    (With the Intel ships having cloak already though, having it still a console becomes a massive disadvantage)
  • terlokiterloki Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Am I the only one that thinks the new Fed pilot ship looks nothing like the Defiant? I mean, it's got a recessed deflector instead of the Defiant's "nose" or even one that's flush like the Gallant, it's got two stubby wings where the warp nacelles should be, and the front is squared off and narrower than the back. This ship looks more like a Starfleet Venture Star than the Defiant.

    Don't get me wrong, a T6 pilot Defiant would be awesome and too good of an opportunity for the devs to pass up on, but I get the feeling that it'll either be a stand-alone ship or a cross-faction three pack like the Iconic bundle rather than this nine-pack ship. That's how they did it with command ships after all.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Hope you guys get your T6 Defiant. But... I'm not so sure that it's going to be a Defiant. Cryptic may very well prove me wrong but their own history says otherwise.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Hope you guys get your T6 Defiant. But... I'm not so sure that it's going to be a Defiant. Cryptic may very well prove me wrong but their own history says otherwise.

    You raise some very good points. More then likely, Cryptic will stick to this trend.
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  • johnnymo1johnnymo1 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I can deal with a t6 defiant not getting a 5th level special ability if they give it all its shields, a 3 piece gear set and a 5th fore weapon slot. Its a war ship in an expansion about a giant fracking war.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    You raise some very good points. More then likely, Cryptic will stick to this trend.

    I'm glad that the new Pilot ship isn't the T6 Defiant, none of the other canon revamped ships have been specialized and giving the only revamped escort a specialization would be pretty unfair and pretty biased towards escorts, but I fear that soon Escorts will once again rule the game as they once did before Legacy of Romulus.
    johnnymo1 wrote: »
    I can deal with a t6 defiant not getting a 5th level special ability if they give it all its shields, a 3 piece gear set and a 5th fore weapon slot. Its a war ship in an expansion about a giant fracking war.

    That logic can be applied with any ship why doesn't every ship have 5 fore weapon slots and 56 tactical consoles and 234 Bridge Officer slots and aside that..

    Dear heavens no, we don't need more 5 fore 5 tactical console DPS monster Scimitar clone ships flying around filling up Earth Space dock.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm glad that the new Pilot ship isn't the T6 Defiant, none of the other canon revamped ships have been specialized and giving the only revamped escort a specialization would be pretty unfair and pretty biased towards escorts, but I fear that soon Escorts will once again rule the game as they once did before Legacy of Romulus.



    That logic can be applied with any ship why doesn't every ship have 5 fore weapon slots and 56 tactical consoles and 234 Bridge Officer slots and aside that..

    Dear heavens no, we don't need more 5 fore 5 tactical console DPS monster Scimitar clone ships flying around filling up Earth Space dock.
    Agreed, there's already the Avenger for those who want a Fed DPS moster like ship (and for those who don't care about the looks, lol)

    I'm pretty sure the Devs will carefully make the T6 Defiant a very very good ship, mostly because some of them are DS9 fans (and build the game mechanics to fit escort "awesomeness", lol). It will surely not get a lame BOFF/Console layout like the Galaxy got for 5 years, lol.
    I think the T6 Defiant will get a similar BOFF/Console layout like the Andromeda just with a pilot spec (and tac focussed of course).
    Maybe something like this:

    Tac: Cmdr.
    Tac/Pilot: Lt.Cmdr.
    Eng: Lt.Cmdr.
    Sci: Lt.
    Uni. Ensign.

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