The Feds are on a war footing as well. Give all three an extra Tac console vice enginerding.
Also, this thread is funny but I thought STO: Rebirth was the April Fool's troll.
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I still say make all three of them Dreadnoughts by giving them each a hanger bay and a spiral lance weapon. The Tier 6 Negh'Var can shoot a spiral lance from to 2 big weapon pods it will get and the romulan ship can get similar weapon pods in the gaps between its wings. Then just make the option for the Andromeda class to have a third nacelle or not in ship customization.
Also make a tier 5 Negh'Var refit for maybe 2000 zen and give it a console so the klingons can get a 2 console set. Negh'Var wont need a turn rate boost since it's already way better then the other two ships.
The T6 Nech'var will be fine, set bonus or no set bonus. Those ships are already armed with the most dangerous weapon in the game: KDF players behind the controls.
Were quite excited to reveal the statics and specifics for the Andromeda Class Exploration Cruiser, NeghTev Heavy Battlecruiser and the DKhellra Warbird Battlecruiser!
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About time there was a C-Store Negh'Var with good (okay, decent) stats. And you fixed the ventral disruptors (even though the pylons are straight down instead of angled). And the T6 skin looks good and like a proper Klingon battlecruiser. I'd give you the $30 instead of just using part of my stash of stipend/dil-ground zen but the Arc site didn't want me logging in and I gave up fighting with it. Maybe it'll be resolved when you release the T6 Excelsior/Nova/Valdore?
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Can we get some more (canon) KDF outfits, an assortment of respectable skirts/dresses, a long jacket (and more clothes in general) that does plain white well, melee weapon and Mk 15 drops, a T6 Nova, and account-wide lockbox/lobi/promo ships & consoles? Oh, and...
Plenty of people want more well designed science ships in the game. The Dyson set was a big TRIBBLE up in that department.
Unfortunately, they have to pander to the masses (Tacs and engineers) over and over before paying attention to science.
There's some work to be done on science, for sure. Speaking as a Romulan player... yeah. Secondary Deflectors as a mechanic was a step in the right direction, but looking forward to more.
I'm REALLY happy with the D'Khellra though. The boff layout is the perfect do-it-all that you might want from an iconic / hero ship. The Lt.Cmdr. Sci is great.
Looking over the ships are nice but when are they going to fix the anti-matter spread from the lock boxes? Anti-matter is for KDF side still! HELLO KITTY!
I'm not pleased about the lack of LTC sci on the Galaxy, or both the Galaxy and Negh'var having the same Boff lineup.
Love the work the designers put into the ship models themselves.
Would have appreciated an attempt to make a Console set for the KDF,
Make a T5 Negh'var with a Disruptor lance, like the Phaser/Phantom & Plasma/Faeht, and give it a DBB Beam Overload animation instead, it's a missed opportunity at an easy additional KDF sale.
The Galaxy won't get me out of my t5u Ambassador, the Negh'var won't get me out of my T5U Tor'kaht.
The Romulan one is pure awesome-sauce, but doesn't suit my playstyle, very happy for those it does.
My most likely next purchase is still the Aethel or Geneva.
don't get the wrong impression I'm very happy to see these released and very happy for those who purchase them and get an opportunity to use them, I just don't think I'll be joining them.
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T6 updates for the Kamarag & Vor'Cha
Heavy Cruiser & a Movie Era Style AoY Utility Cruiser
Were quite excited to reveal the statics and specifics for the Andromeda Class Exploration Cruiser, NeghTev Heavy Battlecruiser and the DKhellra Warbird Battlecruiser!
I'm having some difficulty with this. Tried throwing money at the screen, but that doesn't seem to work. I've also tried the CD tray but... well, I'm using my phone now.
Hmmm since the Anti-matter Console is available to the KDF, how about at least making it be part of the set bonus for them? Maybe add the Disruptor Quads as well, for the three piece?
Just a thought from a Fed player with no skin in the KDF game.
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Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
These newest Tier 6 ships are well designed & have good features. Are they worth the cost will be up to each individual to decide & toss-away whatever amount they've already spent on their previously best ship.
I love this part: Q: Why isnt the NeghTevs Molecular Cohesion Nullifier console part of a set?
A: No other NeghVar variants came with a console, so there were no consoles with which to make a set.
Translation: We have pooped on you & you seem to keep paying us the same like the other factions while getting less so we will continue pooping on you Klingons. :-)
Whenever synergy tactics are used, in this example consoles, not everyone will be happy & there will always be someone(s) left out, but really Cryptic ... you have neglected in the past, Klingons, compared to others therefore the precedent is to just keep the status quo?
At the least the Klingon craft should've been given two consoles, who knows doing what, but that way potential buyers paying the same price would've been paying the same for not so much less compared to the others & the Klingon ship would've benefitted from a two console synergy trait. Again, not as good as the other ship package potentials, but at least some thought & intent was given to lessen the disparity ... well would've been given. Even all three ships' statistics, Hull, are status quo with the Romulan ship up above the others, Federation in the middle, & the Klingon falling short.
So far, though I've just seen these pictures, very well designed & looks impressive for all three. The content is even good too as long as you're not comparing Klingon ship content to the other two.
Devil's Advocate question? Is there anything with the Klingon ship to make-up for the lack of having no synergy console traits? If no then why not & what would've that hurt game-play-wise?
Should have been a LTC sci station for the Andromeda i mean come on it not a Assault Cruiser it for Exploration...KEY word BEING Exploration
and with that being said i think the Console layout on the fed and Klingon ships should changed. Klingon are all about the fighting they wouldn't waste a console station on a sci station so it should be 4tac 4eng and 2sci while the federations should be 2 tac 4 eng and 4 sci.
Should have been a LTC sci station for the Andromeda i mean come on it not a Assault Cruiser it for Exploration...KEY word BEING Exploration
exploration means dealing with the unknown, that includes hostiles. an exploration cruiser is a trail blazer, its mapping space, dealing with first contacts, totally in harms way all alone with no suport. explorer is a nicer way to say heavy ultra long range battleship. the only difference between an exploration cruiser and an assault cruiser is that the explorer is bigger, and can pack supplies for longer deployments
you're confusing explorer with surveyors or science ships that follow up when the frontier expands, they would be sci heavy over tac heavy.
in sto especially, maybe 10% of those old generated exploration missions didn't involve shooting.
Should have been a LTC sci station for the Andromeda i mean come on it not a Assault Cruiser it for Exploration...KEY word BEING Exploration
and with that being said i think the Console layout on the fed and Klingon ships should changed. Klingon are all about the fighting they wouldn't waste a console station on a sci station so it should be 4tac 4eng and 2sci while the federations should be 2 tac 4 eng and 4 sci.
The really funny thing is, when they updated the Galaxy-X a little while back we were told that it would never get a LTC tactical station because it was a cruiser... Yet this exploration cruiser now has one and the dreadnought version is still left with a crappy LT station...
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Devil's Advocate question? Is there anything with the Klingon ship to make-up for the lack of having no synergy console traits? If no then why not & what would've that hurt game-play-wise?
ok lets add a pack with two consoles that costs the same price as both the other galaxy ships the fed player has to buy ? expensive bloody consoles.
The really funny thing is, when they updated the Galaxy-X a little while back we were told that it would never get a LTC tactical station because it was a cruiser... Yet this exploration cruiser now has one and the dreadnought version is still left with a crappy LT station...
erm when, i dont remember that and there are cruisers with a lt cmdr tac (or indeed lt cmdr uni)
Should have been a LTC sci station for the Andromeda i mean come on it not a Assault Cruiser it for Exploration...KEY word BEING Exploration
and with that being said i think the Console layout on the fed and Klingon ships should changed. Klingon are all about the fighting they wouldn't waste a console station on a sci station so it should be 4tac 4eng and 2sci while the federations should be 2 tac 4 eng and 4 sci.
Not everyone's going to be happy with everything. Case in point, go back a few pages and there were complaints thrown at the Andromeda for not having 4 tac consoles.
If it doesn't work with your playstyle, or it's not the ship you want, that's fine - just don't get it. There are a lot of other options out there. But 3-4-3 is what it's launching with tomorrow.
So... You want me to give up my Fleet Galaxy-X that has 4 tactical console slots for this POS that only has 3? Why do all of the Tier 6 cruisers only have 3 tactical console slots? These aren't upgrades.
It has a base turnrate of 6, not 5, and FIVE engineer console slots, not four.
Switching to the T6 ship gives me an upgrade on my ensign universal to LT and gives me access to command abilities from my top engineer slot (that I actually need for engineer abilities)?
I was excited about upgrading until I saw the stats. Why would you make a T6 ship that's WORSE than the T5U version?
Oh, I see. Fleet version gives me the console back - but then removes the starship mastery. And I'm still out a precious, precious point of turnrate. Meaning I'd be paying not even to get T6, just a fatter hull and one extra boff ability on a worse ship. lolwut
i was going to congratulate the feds for getting the ship they have been wanting, but then i realised it would sound a bit hollow. its not like we didnt see that coming anyway.
looking at the kdfs ship... yeah, i am going to have to pass, which i suspect is cryptics intention anyway.
So... You want me to give up my Fleet Galaxy-X that has 4 tactical console slots for this POS that only has 3? Why do all of the Tier 6 cruisers only have 3 tactical console slots? These aren't upgrades.
why don't you go to a space map and see what a piddly amount of DPS you lose when you remove 1 tac console, assuming you have mk14 weapons, and reevaluate how big a deal you think having more then 3 tac consoles is. the effect from tac consoles has been marginalized a great deal since DR.
also, access to a LTC tac station will boost your DPS potential a lot more then 1 tac console will, ever back when they had a much greater DPS effect then they do now.
erm when, i dont remember that and there are cruisers with a lt cmdr tac (or indeed lt cmdr uni)
February last year, when it was launched. Trying to find the exact post, but it's likely in one of the threads that 'vanished' during the forum purge a few months back. I know well that other cruisers have universal LTC Tac stations, and many of us pointed that out when we were venting our frustration about the Gal-X not getting one.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
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I'm just going to grab some popcorn and watch this announcement unfold.
D'Deridex looks like it was ripped from SFC3 mod pack...
and if that's the case I believe somebody in trouble.....
I been waiting for @#$% mess up like this.....
what a joke!!! will not buy any of new ships
what let down on the fed ship.....
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Also, this thread is funny but I thought STO: Rebirth was the April Fool's troll.
This thread is for realsies. The other one is the april fools joke this one is just coincidentalln the same day.
Also make a tier 5 Negh'Var refit for maybe 2000 zen and give it a console so the klingons can get a 2 console set. Negh'Var wont need a turn rate boost since it's already way better then the other two ships.
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Can we get some more (canon) KDF outfits, an assortment of respectable skirts/dresses, a long jacket (and more clothes in general) that does plain white well, melee weapon and Mk 15 drops, a T6 Nova, and account-wide lockbox/lobi/promo ships & consoles? Oh, and...
That's the current price of a 3-pack of Command ships, which are T6, so it stands to reason the 3 pack will be the same price.
Here's hoping, anyway.
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There's some work to be done on science, for sure. Speaking as a Romulan player... yeah. Secondary Deflectors as a mechanic was a step in the right direction, but looking forward to more.
I'm REALLY happy with the D'Khellra though. The boff layout is the perfect do-it-all that you might want from an iconic / hero ship. The Lt.Cmdr. Sci is great.
its what I am expecting, which kinda sucks as the Command ships are already 11 console and wont need upgrading to fleet
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Love the work the designers put into the ship models themselves.
Would have appreciated an attempt to make a Console set for the KDF,
Make a T5 Negh'var with a Disruptor lance, like the Phaser/Phantom & Plasma/Faeht, and give it a DBB Beam Overload animation instead, it's a missed opportunity at an easy additional KDF sale.
The Galaxy won't get me out of my t5u Ambassador, the Negh'var won't get me out of my T5U Tor'kaht.
The Romulan one is pure awesome-sauce, but doesn't suit my playstyle, very happy for those it does.
My most likely next purchase is still the Aethel or Geneva.
don't get the wrong impression I'm very happy to see these released and very happy for those who purchase them and get an opportunity to use them, I just don't think I'll be joining them.
I'm having some difficulty with this. Tried throwing money at the screen, but that doesn't seem to work. I've also tried the CD tray but... well, I'm using my phone now.
(Can't wait till tomorrow!
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I love this part: Q: Why isnt the NeghTevs Molecular Cohesion Nullifier console part of a set?
A: No other NeghVar variants came with a console, so there were no consoles with which to make a set.
Translation: We have pooped on you & you seem to keep paying us the same like the other factions while getting less so we will continue pooping on you Klingons. :-)
Whenever synergy tactics are used, in this example consoles, not everyone will be happy & there will always be someone(s) left out, but really Cryptic ... you have neglected in the past, Klingons, compared to others therefore the precedent is to just keep the status quo?
At the least the Klingon craft should've been given two consoles, who knows doing what, but that way potential buyers paying the same price would've been paying the same for not so much less compared to the others & the Klingon ship would've benefitted from a two console synergy trait. Again, not as good as the other ship package potentials, but at least some thought & intent was given to lessen the disparity ... well would've been given. Even all three ships' statistics, Hull, are status quo with the Romulan ship up above the others, Federation in the middle, & the Klingon falling short.
So far, though I've just seen these pictures, very well designed & looks impressive for all three. The content is even good too as long as you're not comparing Klingon ship content to the other two.
Devil's Advocate question? Is there anything with the Klingon ship to make-up for the lack of having no synergy console traits? If no then why not & what would've that hurt game-play-wise?
and with that being said i think the Console layout on the fed and Klingon ships should changed. Klingon are all about the fighting they wouldn't waste a console station on a sci station so it should be 4tac 4eng and 2sci while the federations should be 2 tac 4 eng and 4 sci.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
exploration means dealing with the unknown, that includes hostiles. an exploration cruiser is a trail blazer, its mapping space, dealing with first contacts, totally in harms way all alone with no suport. explorer is a nicer way to say heavy ultra long range battleship. the only difference between an exploration cruiser and an assault cruiser is that the explorer is bigger, and can pack supplies for longer deployments
you're confusing explorer with surveyors or science ships that follow up when the frontier expands, they would be sci heavy over tac heavy.
in sto especially, maybe 10% of those old generated exploration missions didn't involve shooting.
The really funny thing is, when they updated the Galaxy-X a little while back we were told that it would never get a LTC tactical station because it was a cruiser... Yet this exploration cruiser now has one and the dreadnought version is still left with a crappy LT station...
ok lets add a pack with two consoles that costs the same price as both the other galaxy ships the fed player has to buy ? expensive bloody consoles.
erm when, i dont remember that and there are cruisers with a lt cmdr tac (or indeed lt cmdr uni)
Not everyone's going to be happy with everything. Case in point, go back a few pages and there were complaints thrown at the Andromeda for not having 4 tac consoles.
If it doesn't work with your playstyle, or it's not the ship you want, that's fine - just don't get it. There are a lot of other options out there. But 3-4-3 is what it's launching with tomorrow.
I'm flying a D'Deridex Fleet Retrofit right now.
It has a base turnrate of 6, not 5, and FIVE engineer console slots, not four.
Switching to the T6 ship gives me an upgrade on my ensign universal to LT and gives me access to command abilities from my top engineer slot (that I actually need for engineer abilities)?
I was excited about upgrading until I saw the stats. Why would you make a T6 ship that's WORSE than the T5U version?
Oh, I see. Fleet version gives me the console back - but then removes the starship mastery. And I'm still out a precious, precious point of turnrate. Meaning I'd be paying not even to get T6, just a fatter hull and one extra boff ability on a worse ship. lolwut
looking at the kdfs ship... yeah, i am going to have to pass, which i suspect is cryptics intention anyway.
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why don't you go to a space map and see what a piddly amount of DPS you lose when you remove 1 tac console, assuming you have mk14 weapons, and reevaluate how big a deal you think having more then 3 tac consoles is. the effect from tac consoles has been marginalized a great deal since DR.
also, access to a LTC tac station will boost your DPS potential a lot more then 1 tac console will, ever back when they had a much greater DPS effect then they do now.
February last year, when it was launched. Trying to find the exact post, but it's likely in one of the threads that 'vanished' during the forum purge a few months back. I know well that other cruisers have universal LTC Tac stations, and many of us pointed that out when we were venting our frustration about the Gal-X not getting one.
D'Deridex looks like it was ripped from SFC3 mod pack...
and if that's the case I believe somebody in trouble.....
I been waiting for @#$% mess up like this.....
what a joke!!! will not buy any of new ships
what let down on the fed ship.....