So I lied about quitting gambling. I ended up getting the ship at pack 174. Definitely not worth the cost but at least I have the ship now and I have a ton of lobi I can use to buy some other ships and lots of R&D materials to provide equipment for the ship.
... at the time promotion packs were going for about 8.5 mil on the exchange.
So You buy 100 packs (850.000.000) and then maby 20 more (170.000.000)...
Most ppl do not have 170 mil in ec, very few have 850 mil.
And NO ONE has more 1 bil. in ec (there is a cap You know)
Anyways, often when I read stuff on forums, I get the feelin that Developers made enough alternate accounts, so they can defend (rationalize) their position
.
And just that number 2600 packs bought with ec (more than 22 Billion)...
That would mean that, since JHSS was introduced,(not long ago) 22 bil. was spent on packs.
How many say JHAS (or some other ship or resours)You would need to have in your inventory, and then sell it, in order to gather 1 bil. 22 times ...
I'm going to leave it at this ...
... at the time promotion packs were going for about 8.5 mil on the exchange.
So You buy 100 packs (850.000.000) and then maby 20 more (170.000.000)...
Most ppl do not have 170 mil in ec, very few have 850 mil.
And NO ONE has more 1 bil. in ec (there is a cap You know)
Anyways, often when I read stuff on forums, I get the feelin that Developers made enough alternate accounts, so they can defend (rationalize) their position
.
And just that number 2600 packs bought with ec (more than 22 Billion)...
That would mean that, since JHSS was introduced,(not long ago) 22 bil. was spent on packs.
How many say JHAS (or some other ship or resours)You would need to have in your inventory, and then sell it, in order to gather 1 bil. 22 times ...
I'm going to leave it at this ...
Plenty of us have more than 1 billion EC... it's 1 billion per character, and if you have multiple characters, that's multiple instances of 1 billion
Regarding being "guaranteed" a ship every 100 packs, that is wrong. Random is random. The JHSS probably has a 1% drop rate (which is higher than the normal special ships, but the cost per pack is higher than a master key), which may make it seem to average out at 1 per 100 packs, but it is in no way guaranteed - the system couldn't care less how many you've opened in the past, that would actually be a lot of development time for no benefit to Cryptic, rather than using a simple RNG.
I know there is some number of ppl that have billions ...
not plenty of them - some ...
most of them - are making larger portion of that by converting Real Money > Zen > Keys (or some pack that is popular at any point in time) > ec ...
And I am thankfull to all that spend above average amount of money on the game that I use to like.That is why ppl like me can enjoy the game w/o spending more than one should (it is a game after all)...
Anyways ...
Those that do exchange Cashe for ec - do not qualify for this discussion ...
The hole point was how to get JHSS without buying pack for Cashe ...
And you ppl are either trolling (for what I have little respect - and only when it's sharp ) ... or have no clue - or - (I must be honest - there is another option) have No Life ...
This is a crock of **** and a mentality I see time and time again, since I work in the gaming industry...
Playing that same machine, for hours on end, does NOT increase your chances of winning, nor have I ever seen any substantiated evidence that opening 101 lockboxes increases your chances of winning, as opposed to opening just 99...
This is the same foolish rot the average gambler deludes themselves into believing...
I believe it works like this:
The odds of you getting a JHSS out of 101 unopened boxes is greater than the odds of you getting a JHSS out of 99 unopened boxes. If the drop rate is 1/100 on average, the odds of getting at least one JHSS is 63.03% out of 99 and 63.76% out of 101. This is because every single box is an unknown, and has that 1% chance of rewarding a JHSS.
But, once you've opened the 99, the other two do not suddenly have increased odds of rewarding JHSS, they have the same 1% chance they always did. Those last two boxes give you a 1.99% chance at at least one JHSS, and do not have an inflated chance because your past rolls failed. Past results don't affect future probability.
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I know there is some number of ppl that have billions ...
not plenty of them - some ...
most of them - are making larger portion of that by converting Real Money > Zen > Keys (or some pack that is popular at any point in time) > ec ...
And I am thankfull to all that spend above average amount of money on the game that I use to like.That is why ppl like me can enjoy the game w/o spending more than one should (it is a game after all)...
Anyways ...
Those that do exchange Cashe for ec - do not qualify for this discussion ...
The hole point was how to get JHSS without buying pack for Cashe ...
And you ppl are either trolling (for what I have little respect - and only when it's sharp ) ... or have no clue - or - (I must be honest - there is another option) have No Life ...
the people buying keys with $ and putting them on the exchange for ec are not the ec billionaires. its the people just trying to scrape together a few million to buy some ship of the exchange or whatnot. the ec billionaires are more likely to be the ones buying the keys with ec.
the people buying keys with $ and putting them on the exchange for ec are not the ec billionaires. its the people just trying to scrape together a few million to buy some ship of the exchange or whatnot. the ec billionaires are more likely to be the ones buying the keys with ec.
True.
Well, dont really you need 22b for the pack's. Dont forget the ship's i opened, usually its worked like buying 50-60 pack, got the ship, sold in a few minutes, money came back, buy more pack's.
Sometimes its dropped from 30-40 pack, there are left 10-20 + the 50-60 more new pack from selling the ship.
There was the lobi's too, 2600 pack is 26.000 lobi, i just bought ship's from lobi's and sold them too. I like r&d so that was just opened.
Yes, there was some time when its not dropped, and needed to buy new 50-60 pack from my ec. My total loss was low, worth the fun.
Buying 2600 pack's - the sold jhss, sold lobi ship's, r&d pack's i got, totally i just wasted 474 million ec, all other came back.
Anyone else having problems with the: Dominion Enhanced Armaments. It should be +20% all damage. But when i look at my beam DPS nothing changes when i equip the 3 console set. But my Torpedo launcher does get the 20% Damage boost, but not my beams....
Anyone else having problems with the: Dominion Enhanced Armaments. It should be +20% all damage. But when i look at my beam DPS nothing changes when i equip the 3 console set. But my Torpedo launcher does get the 20% Damage boost, but not my beams....
Hmmm.. what kind of beams are you using? I tested this with Polaron and Dominion Polaron Beam Arrays and also with several kinds of Polaron DHCs and Turrets and all are getting the 20%.
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The deal is that the polaron boost is with the 2 piece set. The 3 piece set give you the antiproton sweep, and on a Jem or Cardassian ship gives you Victory Is Life proc, which is a debuffer.
The deal is that the polaron boost is with the 2 piece set. The 3 piece set give you the antiproton sweep, and on a Jem or Cardassian ship gives you Victory Is Life proc, which is a debuffer.
Indeed, it says +20% ALL damage. But for me in only boosts the Launcher, and not the beams (tried different beams/dual beams) Maybe someone can test it to?
The 20% extra damage is why i bought all the 3 ships, to get maximum DPS.. (and those ships are frigging cool )
Bad move Cryptic after botching up the Summer event.....
This ship will be another pass for me.
I think you're a little late to the party, friend. This was put up back in May, before they "botched up" the Summer Event.
It isn't really botching up if the intention was never for hoarders to get all they could one year, and then do what they needed to do with the currency the next.
I think you're a little late to the party, friend. This was put up back in May, before they "botched up" the Summer Event.
It isn't really botching up if the intention was never for hoarders to get all they could one year, and then do what they needed to do with the currency the next.
That's the thing, They wanted their metrics to show people playing the way they want not the way players want.
Not everyone was able to run the event each year, so they tried to save up for the next year. At least that's what I did. I hoarded all the event currency I could, because I knew I would still grind out the entire event. They are just butthurt that the players were getting the ships on day one. To really stop that and "Put all the players on an equal playing field", make it so the ONLY way to get the event currency is by running the event. Take those currencies out of lockboxes. Otherwise, the same thing will happen. People, instead of playing the event, will just open lockboxes to get the currencies to get the ship day one.
But that is not what this thread is about. It's about yet another way to get an overrated bug ship....Yeah, big whoop.
Anyone else having problems with the: Dominion Enhanced Armaments. It should be +20% all damage. But when i look at my beam DPS nothing changes when i equip the 3 console set. But my Torpedo launcher does get the 20% Damage boost, but not my beams....
#1. You necroed a 2 month old thread.
#2. This promotion ended 2 months ago and is NOT running right now.
#3. This is NOT the place to report bugs with the ship.
Plenty of us have more than 1 billion EC... it's 1 billion per character, and if you have multiple characters, that's multiple instances of 1 billion
Regarding being "guaranteed" a ship every 100 packs, that is wrong. Random is random. The JHSS probably has a 1% drop rate (which is higher than the normal special ships, but the cost per pack is higher than a master key), which may make it seem to average out at 1 per 100 packs, but it is in no way guaranteed - the system couldn't care less how many you've opened in the past, that would actually be a lot of development time for no benefit to Cryptic, rather than using a simple RNG.
It took me 3 trieds to win a D'Kora and over 100 to win a JHSS. Here's the sad part. I won the ship about 5 days into the event. I opened it and in my ship selector I equiped all the consoles. I haven't took it out of dry dock 1x since I got it. Heres why. I'm still trying to max out a few other ships to have thier mastery trait. I would imagine in about 4 more months I'll get around to playing the JHSS. That is if servers are still up.
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So You buy 100 packs (850.000.000) and then maby 20 more (170.000.000)...
Most ppl do not have 170 mil in ec, very few have 850 mil.
And NO ONE has more 1 bil. in ec (there is a cap You know)
Anyways, often when I read stuff on forums, I get the feelin that Developers made enough alternate accounts, so they can defend (rationalize) their position
.
And just that number 2600 packs bought with ec (more than 22 Billion)...
That would mean that, since JHSS was introduced,(not long ago) 22 bil. was spent on packs.
How many say JHAS (or some other ship or resours)You would need to have in your inventory, and then sell it, in order to gather 1 bil. 22 times ...
I'm going to leave it at this ...
Plenty of us have more than 1 billion EC... it's 1 billion per character, and if you have multiple characters, that's multiple instances of 1 billion
Regarding being "guaranteed" a ship every 100 packs, that is wrong. Random is random. The JHSS probably has a 1% drop rate (which is higher than the normal special ships, but the cost per pack is higher than a master key), which may make it seem to average out at 1 per 100 packs, but it is in no way guaranteed - the system couldn't care less how many you've opened in the past, that would actually be a lot of development time for no benefit to Cryptic, rather than using a simple RNG.
not plenty of them - some ...
most of them - are making larger portion of that by converting Real Money > Zen > Keys (or some pack that is popular at any point in time) > ec ...
And I am thankfull to all that spend above average amount of money on the game that I use to like.That is why ppl like me can enjoy the game w/o spending more than one should (it is a game after all)...
Anyways ...
Those that do exchange Cashe for ec - do not qualify for this discussion ...
The hole point was how to get JHSS without buying pack for Cashe ...
And you ppl are either trolling (for what I have little respect - and only when it's sharp
I believe it works like this:
The odds of you getting a JHSS out of 101 unopened boxes is greater than the odds of you getting a JHSS out of 99 unopened boxes. If the drop rate is 1/100 on average, the odds of getting at least one JHSS is 63.03% out of 99 and 63.76% out of 101. This is because every single box is an unknown, and has that 1% chance of rewarding a JHSS.
But, once you've opened the 99, the other two do not suddenly have increased odds of rewarding JHSS, they have the same 1% chance they always did. Those last two boxes give you a 1.99% chance at at least one JHSS, and do not have an inflated chance because your past rolls failed. Past results don't affect future probability.
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Well, dont really you need 22b for the pack's. Dont forget the ship's i opened, usually its worked like buying 50-60 pack, got the ship, sold in a few minutes, money came back, buy more pack's.
Sometimes its dropped from 30-40 pack, there are left 10-20 + the 50-60 more new pack from selling the ship.
There was the lobi's too, 2600 pack is 26.000 lobi, i just bought ship's from lobi's and sold them too. I like r&d so that was just opened.
Yes, there was some time when its not dropped, and needed to buy new 50-60 pack from my ec. My total loss was low, worth the fun.
Buying 2600 pack's - the sold jhss, sold lobi ship's, r&d pack's i got, totally i just wasted 474 million ec, all other came back.
Hmmm.. what kind of beams are you using? I tested this with Polaron and Dominion Polaron Beam Arrays and also with several kinds of Polaron DHCs and Turrets and all are getting the 20%.
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We are not talking about the Jem'Hadar Space Set - we are talking about the Dominion Console Set which consists of..
-[Console - Universal - Dominion Defense Screen]
-[Console - Universal - Dominion Command Interface]
-[Console - Universal - Dominion Coordination Protocol]
Indeed, it says +20% ALL damage. But for me in only boosts the Launcher, and not the beams (tried different beams/dual beams) Maybe someone can test it to?
The 20% extra damage is why i bought all the 3 ships, to get maximum DPS.. (and those ships are frigging cool
Bad move Cryptic after botching up the Summer event.....
This ship will be another pass for me.
I think you're a little late to the party, friend. This was put up back in May, before they "botched up" the Summer Event.
It isn't really botching up if the intention was never for hoarders to get all they could one year, and then do what they needed to do with the currency the next.
That's the thing, They wanted their metrics to show people playing the way they want not the way players want.
Not everyone was able to run the event each year, so they tried to save up for the next year. At least that's what I did. I hoarded all the event currency I could, because I knew I would still grind out the entire event. They are just butthurt that the players were getting the ships on day one. To really stop that and "Put all the players on an equal playing field", make it so the ONLY way to get the event currency is by running the event. Take those currencies out of lockboxes. Otherwise, the same thing will happen. People, instead of playing the event, will just open lockboxes to get the currencies to get the ship day one.
But that is not what this thread is about. It's about yet another way to get an overrated bug ship....Yeah, big whoop.
#1. You necroed a 2 month old thread.
#2. This promotion ended 2 months ago and is NOT running right now.
#3. This is NOT the place to report bugs with the ship.
It took me 3 trieds to win a D'Kora and over 100 to win a JHSS. Here's the sad part. I won the ship about 5 days into the event. I opened it and in my ship selector I equiped all the consoles. I haven't took it out of dry dock 1x since I got it. Heres why. I'm still trying to max out a few other ships to have thier mastery trait. I would imagine in about 4 more months I'll get around to playing the JHSS. That is if servers are still up.