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Worf was a ship commander, say something positive about him.
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He discovered a Warrior's Drink... Prune Juice.
Also... Jadzia Dax...
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he discovered that meeleing a borg is pretty effective
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Actually... not entirely accurate, as Chancillor Gorkon was pretty friendly when he met Captain Kirk.
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That's enough for me.
Too obvious, ain't it?
"Captain, I recommend we raise shields."
"Not yet, Mr. Worf."
"Captain, recommend we go to red alert."
"Thank you, Mr. Worf."
Worffan and I wrote him and Picard in a cameo in our off-site project The Mysterious Case of Neelix's Lungs. I wrote Worf being suspicious of the Romulans' motives, Picard doing his usual "that's nice, Mr. Worf", and Admiral Leyton cutting Picard off and agreeing with Worf, to both of their surprise.
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Season 2's "The Chid", he's the only person to suggest the logical decision of terminating a fetus that (a) is actually a space thingy that r*ped Troi and (b) is causing problems with the ship.
F*cking Maurice Hurley...can't write a decent story for sh*t...
Also, as for the last paragraph...in retrospect, it reads as a Take That to Maurice Hurley and the constant Worf denial both.
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Which in itself is funny, because whenever he ran into another Klingon he kicked their butts. Just ask Duras, Gowron, or his Forcas III competitors. Worf Worfed the Worfs.
Just say it out loud.
I suspect Gorkon was a holdover from the old TOS Klingon culture where they were less growly Vikings and more cunning. He, Chang, and perhaps Azetbur were in my headcanon the last of the Thought Admirals.
Worf, while I think his human upbringing should have shown way more than it did, did seem to tend a bit more towards this model than to a "modern" Klingon.
I guess that's my positive thing about Worf: he took the ideal of honor more seriously than his brethren (even if he sometimes failed at it).
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He was a deadbeat dad, something I cannot excuse under any circumstance. He was no Klingon, just a Human-reaised wannabe struggling to live up to his very confused idea of how a Klingon was supposed to behave... DS-9 also showed that while he was fine as a security/tactical officer, he couldn't handle higher responsibilities. He took it upon himself to muscle in on one of Odo's investigations, so showed complete lack of respect for the blended chain of command, the episode where the Klingons set him up to be extradited showed that, although he was indeed being set up so he got off on a technicality, he couldn't be trusted to command a ship in battle, and his decision fo save Jadzia's life cost the life of a much more valuable STI asset, which Sisko noted would likely mean he would never be given a command of his own.
That said, if the s**t was about to hit the fan, there're few others I'd want watching my back, and who I'd have 100% confidence in...
To be fair, Worf's conduct in battle, loyalty, and sheer determination WAS recognized by Klingons such as Martok as pretty freaking impressive and in many ways the model of the Klingon ideal.
And to be fair, a lot of the "surprise kid" issues can be pinned on K'Ehlyr for not even sending him a heads-up that she was pregnant; that said, Worf was at best an incompetent parent, although I think (based on his STO portrayal) that he's gotten a lot better without Starfleet duties.
I think that he had his flaws, but he was overall a levelheaded, sensible, and trustworthy individual. Hell, 95% of the time in TNG when he said "we should shoot the thing", he was RIGHT.
And yes, he was absolutely trustworthy, and right about situations where Picard should have been more cautious, but as DS-9 showed, he wasn't capable of higher authority and was Peter Principled once he became the strategic operations officer or given command of the Defiant (he even ordered the helmsman to ram the Borg Cube, but that order was quite rightly ignored as being a futile 'glory gesture' rather than a viable tactical manoeuvre... )
I refuse to say that Worf's conduct toward his son was acceptable (because it was majorly deadbeat parenting), but I can understand why he acted the way he did. He got a kid shoved on him by his sort-of ex and then she died before they could really talk through it; he didn't know whether to be angry at the kid for existing or raise him in what he saw as the Klingon fashion.
Which is why he sucked as a parent.
In First Contact...that was the right call. The Defiant is an expendable frigate designed to mob Borg cubes, not a battleship. Kinetic strikes are OP in Trek, a suicide run might just have taken down the cube. Very much worth the lives of the remaining crew.
"Rrrrraaaahhhhhhh!!!" ?
Guinan: "It's an Earth drink. Prune juice."
Worf; "A warrior's drink!"
"Do not approach me unannouncedespecially while I am eating."
"Do not hug me."
"Klingons do not... pursue relationships. They conquer that which they desire."
Picard: "Return that moon to its orbit."
Q: "I have no powers! Q, the ordinary!"
Picard: "Q, the liar! Q, the misanthrope!"
Q: "Q, the miserable, Q, the desperate! What must I do to convince you people?"
Worf: "Die."
Q: "Oh, very clever, Worf. Eat any good books lately?"
Worf Hungover; "Romulan Ale should be Illegal."
Geordi: "It is."
Riker: "You're outmanned, you're outgunned, you're outequipped - what else have you got?"
Worf: "Guile."
I see allot of them with a character, and ship.
though I'm not sure which ship to put on there...
I'll think about it. This will do for now.
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But would it have done so? Did the Defiant have enough momentum to actually do so? The scale of the cube was hard to gauge in First Contact, but previously, the Borg cubes had dwarfed the Enterprise-D, which in turn, was considerably bigger than the Defiant, I just don't think an impact (and resultant core breach from the Defiant) would have made any real difference to the cube. Also, none of the other crewmembers were Klingons, they didn't feel the need to go out in a blaze of glory, so that order showed (as with the DS-9 episode) Worf gave inappropriate orders because of his Klingon instincts (or how he thought a Klingon should react...)
Might I point out Riker's final command in best of both worlds part II before Data told him to hold?
Worf, completely matter-of-factly: "Prune juice. Chilled."
Quark basically goes WTF?, and then Worf just sits there glaring at him until he goes and gets the prune juice.
I love that one.
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I dunno about not handling responsibility, he was definitely trustworthy and relentlessly dedicated. He certainly had MAJOR problems as a commander, officer, and parent when emotional entanglements showed up.
As to the second...the Defiant's going down anyway, the Cube's going for Earth, the best move is to hit them with anything you have left, up to and including the ship. I call that Worf being sensible; like the people on Flight 93, knowing that they were going to die anyway, trying to save some people on the outside with a desperate attack.