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Would you support a Star Trek Online Kickstarter Project ?

rattraps123rattraps123 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
Would you support a Kickstarter Project to upgrade Star Trek Online's Game Engine ?

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If they listened to us afterwards, then yeah, but as there is no guarantee of that, and if the last few years have been any indication, then no.
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Wouldn't do it.
    Just like Star Citizen. Show me a finished product.

    Edit: A company like PWE, would already have some % of income being dedicated to R&D.
    Why would you want to "pay twice" for something they should be working on anyway ?
    If they make a new engine, and its better...great.
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I may support a kickstarter project(s) but not for the game engine. why? because something as fundamentally important as the game engine should be funded and done by cryptic/pwe if the community start paying for the engine on their own then the community might as well make it's own game.
    cryptic/pwe have a licence for one of the most popular franchises of all time = they will always make plenty of money. so for them to need community money from kickstarter project for something as fundamental to the game is just plain wrong.

    if it was a kickstarter for a k'vort then I'd consider it just to prove geko wrong
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No.

    Besides, they already make tweaks to the engine in the background according to Taco.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=16139571&postcount=16

    So they already upgrade the engine in that sense.

    Unless by "upgrade" you actually mean "replace", then there's no point in it since they would basically have to make a whole new game. One more Taco post to support that:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=17445771&postcount=51
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  • ktonof1aqktonof1aq Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I already do. It's called a "LOCKBOX". :P
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    if it was a kickstarter for a k'vort then I'd consider it just to prove geko wrong

    Or say a KS for a Romulan T6 science ship -- we put in our $25 and if the KS is funded they make our ship.

    That would let Cryptic see if offering the ship would be profitable or not: Set the KS goal high enough to cover the ship development. If we make it happen, then later C-store sales are pure profit.
  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Only if they removed pvp.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I would like to politely suggest that Cryptic makes more than enough money, there is no need for any Kickstarter craziness.

    Sometimes I do wonder about people who suggest things like this. If someone hits you with their car, do you apologize for scratching the paint on their car and offer to buy them a new one ? :o
  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    if you want to support the game just purchase from the online store no need for kickstarter
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Or say a KS for a Romulan T6 science ship -- we put in our $25 and if the KS is funded they make our ship.


    I would fund a Kickstarter project that introduces at least two T6 science ships each for the KDF and Romulan factions (meaning at least 4 ships in total).
  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    We support the game whenever we make purchases in the Cstore, so there is really no need for a kickstarter project.
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  • reverseandereverseande Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If that Star Trek online would be made by other company yes.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    sle1989 wrote: »
    We support the game whenever we make purchases in the Cstore, so there is really no need for a kickstarter project.

    Can't buy any T6 KDF or Romulan science ships from the C-Store if none are offered.

    There is only the Dyson Science Destroyer for the Romulans. The KDF has the Varanus and the Dyson Science Destroyer.


    The Federation Dyson Science Destroyer is arguably the worst T5 science ship available to the Federation in the C-Store. The KDF and Romulan versions are basically "cut & paste" versions. That essentially means the KDF and Romulan Dyson Science Destroyers are inferior to just about all of the T5 Federation science ships in the C-Store.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    Can't buy any T6 KDF or Romulan science ships from the C-Store if none are offered.

    Yep, I'm flying the free Breen carrier because Cryptic won't let me pay them cash monies :(
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Cryptic isn't starved of cash. This isn't an open source project. It's a commercial product.
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  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Yep, I'm flying the free Breen carrier because Cryptic won't let me pay them cash monies :(

    jaguarskx wrote: »
    Can't buy any T6 KDF or Romulan science ships from the C-Store if none are offered.
    There is only the Dyson Science Destroyer for the Romulans. The KDF has the Varanus and the Dyson Science Destroyer.


    The Federation Dyson Science Destroyer is arguably the worst T5 science ship available to the Federation in the C-Store. The KDF and Romulan versions are basically "cut & paste" versions. That essentially means the KDF and Romulan Dyson Science Destroyers are inferior to just about all of the T5 Federation science ships in the C-Store.


    err kickstarter is a donation just pay them money and give the ships or whatever to someone else, purchase some of those r& D packs or something and give it away to your fleet or something...


    ....If you want to donate to them just open your wallet and randomly purchase something it has the same effect. Or purchase a lifetime sub or something. Then you have donated them money and got a virtual item to use or give away.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    But with a KS we can get something specific in return, like the missing T6 science ships.

    Right now, Cryptic apparently thinks making those ships won't be profitable enough. A successful KS would prove them wrong.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No. If you wish to waste your money feel free to send it to me instead.
  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    But with a KS we can get something specific in return, like the missing T6 science ships.

    Right now, Cryptic apparently thinks making those ships won't be profitable enough. A successful KS would prove them wrong.

    yeah this is not true there are less romulan and kdf ships because there is less design content for them however they are churning out what they can and the stats seem comparible on many ships I mean I have 3 klingons and a romulan I seem to be able to purchase ships for them really they are just reskinned fed ships with a couple of variations in skills. They have not released any t6 carriers yet but i suspect those will be along shortly. They just released a pile of ships so dunno man just pick one and use it. The only thing i dont see anything of yet is a carrier but there are lots of destroyer and battlecruiser type ships.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No, why would anyone in their right minds donate money to PWE for upgrades to a P2W game's engine.
  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Yes, I would support kicking Cryptic/PWE off STO........oh wait.......you said kickstarter......nevermind.

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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ummax wrote: »
    yeah this is not true there are less romulan and kdf ships because there is less design content for them however they are churning out what they can and the stats seem comparible on many ships I mean I have 3 klingons and a romulan I seem to be able to purchase ships for them really they are just reskinned fed ships with a couple of variations in skills. They have not released any t6 carriers yet but i suspect those will be along shortly. They just released a pile of ships so dunno man just pick one and use it. The only thing i dont see anything of yet is a carrier but there are lots of destroyer and battlecruiser type ships.

    T6 ship are Cryptics own designs with styling queues from previous ships, therefore "design content" is not much of an issue.

    Create KDF and Romulan science captains and see if your words holds true when you attempt to purchase a faction specific ship with a Cmdr and Lt Cmdr science stations and has Sensor Analysis from the C-Store.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Kickstarter is based on one thing: Trust in the developer...

    .. well...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • tritan2409tritan2409 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    anazonda wrote: »
    Kickstarter is based on one thing: Trust in the developer...

    .. well...


    Exactly.

    After DR and the shenanigans that followed, no.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    tritan2409 wrote: »
    Exactly.

    After DR and the shenanigans that followed, no.

    You feel cheated about that?

    Thank god you werent here for the Medlas -> Dil conversion.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No. I pay them enough already (around 200-300 Euro per month). If that's not enough, let them eat cake!
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    No. I pay them enough already (around 200-300 Euro per month). If that's not enough, let them eat cake!

    you should just buy multiple lifetime accounts and use the zen to buy keys and resell those...
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    tritan2409 wrote: »
    Exactly.

    After DR and the shenanigans that followed, no.


    DR invalidated my Rom alt, overnight. I had all the trimmies for her, lockbox ships, Lobi consoles, Zemoks, the works. She's never been the same again. :( I can hardly even keep upgrading my main as it is. I had to abandon my alt.

    And then they have the audacity to become 'alt-friendly' by... wait for it... asking me to create yet another alt! Nie wieder, as the Germans would say.
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  • cpc2011acpc2011a Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    As long as Cryptic/PWE isn't involved....maybe.
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    My hamster died. They are welcome to his wheel if it's in better shape than their current one.
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