But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Act like what, exactly? Do fake snowballs in a fake game really have any real-world affect on you?
If those fake snowballs occupy a single nanosecond of my time without my explicit consent, then yes, they do have a real world effect.
As for throwing snowballs at people IRL, if the target does not consent to having a snowball thrown at them, then the legal definition for throwing a snowball at that person is assault and battery.
"I don't have the emotional maturity to deal with other people in an online environment so you must ban any and all things that offend me as this multiplayer game clearly revolves around me and anyone who disagrees is a troll."
First the party poppers arrived, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. Then the discoball happened, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. Now snowballs are back for their third year, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. If you people really can't handle anything that puts bright lights on your screen or knocks you over for a moment or, god forbid, makes you dance, have you considered playing singleplayer games? You're obviously not cut out for dealing with other people if you can't handle these really minor social items.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
You get hit, throw one back, are you going to sit there and cry to mommy or man/woman up and defend yourself.
This.
I can imagine the players complaining about the snowballs would be equally miserable creatures in real life. Its winter, its christmas, its fun.
If you think it's interferring with your RP, then I can assure you that there are countless times when a variety of shennanigans occured in Star Trek, so you don't have to break character.
I never thought I would see the day when a thread would be created in an MMO requesting for snowballs to be nerfed.
Cryptic, Devs, whoever's listening. Save yourself the trouble. Either remove the knock down effect or isolate the snowballs to the Winter Wonderland. Do it as soon as possible. That's the solution. Anyone who says otherwise should have their motivations for doing so held as suspect and their opinion on the matter promptly ignored.
I never thought I would see the day when a thread would be created in an MMO requesting for snowballs to be nerfed.
They just couldn't roll with it.
They or their partner could have just said, "Let it go. Snowballs don't bother me anyway. Anyway, do you wanna run some missions? Or RP on my bridge? We can even shut the door, RP some more, like we've done before. Or the first time in forever, we can fight him (the troll) hand-in-hand. We'll head down for some Snowballs; we'll have no trolls to fear. And for the first time in forever, they will learn fear."
Of course, that'd probably weird out some trolls enough. After all, you just switched to RP'ing Frozen. With a Trek take.
why do we have snowballs otuside q land????? im playing the game and these people drop disco balls, keep knocking me down and i cant talk to npcs because of it!!!!!:mad::mad:
Whether you want to admit it or not, what is happening when someone is being victimized by these snowballs is an ASSAULT. No, not directly a physical assault, but it is a deliberate effort to cause discomfort or distress to another person for your own amusement.
That is NEVER alright.
It baffles me that Cryptic continues to put these things into the game when they have to deal with this exact same outcry EVERY SINGLE TIME they do it.
It's not the real world, but the other players who are complaining about this ARE REAL PEOPLE who are not enjoying it. To me, at least, there's no difference between doing this in a game to upset me, or doing it in the real world to upset me. It's not acceptable either way, and it has to stop.
And don't tell me to lighten up. You have NO right to dictate to me how I am to have fun, and you have NO right to have your fun at my expense, particularly when I have objected to it.
You have NO right to insist that something others consider fun be removed from the game. You have NO right to try to get snowballs removed. I'll say it again, you have NO right.
*bangs fist on desk and types through tears of rage*
So, if I think it's fun to come and peel your fingernails off, should I be allowed to do it? I mean, you have no right to dictate to me that I can't have fun at your expense, right?
No one suggested taking these things out of the game. We just said they should be kept where they're appropriate. As it stands, they're just griefing tools, and that's not acceptable.
Why are you comparing real-life torture to being hit with a snowball in a game? The two are not remotely similar. If you're going to have a hissyfit like this over something this inconsequential you should probably step away from the computer and go outside for once.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
So, if I think it's fun to come and peel your fingernails off, should I be allowed to do it? I mean, you have no right to dictate to me that I can't have fun at your expense, right?
No one suggested taking these things out of the game. We just said they should be kept where they're appropriate. As it stands, they're just griefing tools, and that's not acceptable.
If you're genuinely thinking that being hit by a snowball in a PC game and real life physical torture are the same things then maybe you should turn your PC off.
Whether you want to admit it or not, what is happening when someone is being victimized by these snowballs is an ASSAULT. No, not directly a physical assault, but it is a deliberate effort to cause discomfort or distress to another person for your own amusement.
That is NEVER alright.
It baffles me that Cryptic continues to put these things into the game when they have to deal with this exact same outcry EVERY SINGLE TIME they do it.
It's not the real world, but the other players who are complaining about this ARE REAL PEOPLE who are not enjoying it. To me, at least, there's no difference between doing this in a game to upset me, or doing it in the real world to upset me. It's not acceptable either way, and it has to stop.
And don't tell me to lighten up. You have NO right to dictate to me how I am to have fun, and you have NO right to have your fun at my expense, particularly when I have objected to it.
I'm just going to quote this here so that it will stand here forever as evidence that somebody actually believed they were a victim of assault because a video game character was struck by a video game snowball.
To those who complain that this is a recurrent problem, please realize that the only consistent feature of all your dissatisfying relationships is you.
I'm just going to quote this here so that it will stand here forever as evidence that somebody actually believed they were a victim of assault because a video game character was struck by a video game snowball.
Why do you think I quoted his post equating being hit by an in-game snowball with physical torture?
And you see, you're all trivializing the fact, IGNORING the fact, that something is being done to me that I do not want you doing to me.
THAT IS AN ASSAULT.
Whether it's something physical or something in the game, it's the SAME THING (in principle, of course).
You do not have the right to do ANYTHING to me that I don't want you doing. It's just that simple.
Well I don't want you causing the snowballs to be removed from the game. You'll be removing something I enjoy, against my will. What gives you the right?
And you see, you're all trivializing the fact, IGNORING the fact, that something is being done to me that I do not want you doing to me.
THAT IS AN ASSAULT.
Whether it's something physical or something in the game, it's the SAME THING (in principle, of course).
You do not have the right to do ANYTHING to me that I don't want you doing. It's just that simple.
You know, I think you're on to something. This could be big. I'm contacting the CIA. Their latest interrogation techniques got them into hot water, if we got them to force terrorists to log into Startrek Online to be pelted with snowballs, I'm sure they'll crack immediately and give the CIA everything they want.
Or you're being ridiculous and don't know how to act in a multiplayer environment you can't control so are lashing out with over the top comparisons to RL torture in a vain attempt to be taken seriously.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
And you see, you're all trivializing the fact, IGNORING the fact, that something is being done to me that I do not want you doing to me.
THAT IS AN ASSAULT.
Whether it's something physical or something in the game, it's the SAME THING (in principle, of course).
You do not have the right to do ANYTHING to me that I don't want you doing. It's just that simple.
No, it isn't. That's the self-centered pampered worldview you've created for yourself once you failed to adjust to reality. The actual definition of assault: "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm."
You are mad that you are participating in a voluntary social activity and that it isn't proceeding according to your inane script. Perhaps if you went and laid down on an interstate, you could yell at traffic to avoid you or else they would be doing something you didn't want them to, and therefore assaulting you? Report back with results!
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You should see a psychiatrist if you think a beating is an appropriate response to some fun in a game.
That is not a snowball.
Heck, it isn't even cold; it's steaming warm! :eek:
If those fake snowballs occupy a single nanosecond of my time without my explicit consent, then yes, they do have a real world effect.
As for throwing snowballs at people IRL, if the target does not consent to having a snowball thrown at them, then the legal definition for throwing a snowball at that person is assault and battery.
I believe the reason for the season is origionaly Religious incentive :P
First the party poppers arrived, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. Then the discoball happened, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. Now snowballs are back for their third year, and the forums were filled with shrieking about immersion and trolling. If you people really can't handle anything that puts bright lights on your screen or knocks you over for a moment or, god forbid, makes you dance, have you considered playing singleplayer games? You're obviously not cut out for dealing with other people if you can't handle these really minor social items.
This.
I can imagine the players complaining about the snowballs would be equally miserable creatures in real life. Its winter, its christmas, its fun.
If you think it's interferring with your RP, then I can assure you that there are countless times when a variety of shennanigans occured in Star Trek, so you don't have to break character.
I never thought I would see the day when a thread would be created in an MMO requesting for snowballs to be nerfed.
Wow. Just wow.
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They or their partner could have just said, "Let it go. Snowballs don't bother me anyway. Anyway, do you wanna run some missions? Or RP on my bridge? We can even shut the door, RP some more, like we've done before. Or the first time in forever, we can fight him (the troll) hand-in-hand. We'll head down for some Snowballs; we'll have no trolls to fear. And for the first time in forever, they will learn fear."
Of course, that'd probably weird out some trolls enough. After all, you just switched to RP'ing Frozen. With a Trek take.
This is incorrect. Everything is awesome.
You have NO right to insist that something others consider fun be removed from the game. You have NO right to try to get snowballs removed. I'll say it again, you have NO right.
*bangs fist on desk and types through tears of rage*
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Why are you comparing real-life torture to being hit with a snowball in a game? The two are not remotely similar. If you're going to have a hissyfit like this over something this inconsequential you should probably step away from the computer and go outside for once.
VVVVV ahahahaha, nice post :P
If you're genuinely thinking that being hit by a snowball in a PC game and real life physical torture are the same things then maybe you should turn your PC off.
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I'm just going to quote this here so that it will stand here forever as evidence that somebody actually believed they were a victim of assault because a video game character was struck by a video game snowball.
To those who complain that this is a recurrent problem, please realize that the only consistent feature of all your dissatisfying relationships is you.
Shutup Wesley: First In Everything
Why do you think I quoted his post equating being hit by an in-game snowball with physical torture?
These things need to be retained for posterity.
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Your posting is offensive to my brain, please stop this ASSAULT.
Well I don't want you causing the snowballs to be removed from the game. You'll be removing something I enjoy, against my will. What gives you the right?
I call Assault on that.
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You know, I think you're on to something. This could be big. I'm contacting the CIA. Their latest interrogation techniques got them into hot water, if we got them to force terrorists to log into Startrek Online to be pelted with snowballs, I'm sure they'll crack immediately and give the CIA everything they want.
Or you're being ridiculous and don't know how to act in a multiplayer environment you can't control so are lashing out with over the top comparisons to RL torture in a vain attempt to be taken seriously.
No, it isn't. That's the self-centered pampered worldview you've created for yourself once you failed to adjust to reality. The actual definition of assault: "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm."
You are mad that you are participating in a voluntary social activity and that it isn't proceeding according to your inane script. Perhaps if you went and laid down on an interstate, you could yell at traffic to avoid you or else they would be doing something you didn't want them to, and therefore assaulting you? Report back with results!
Shutup Wesley: First In Everything
I have the right to play the game I also pay for, the way I want to play it.
Stop trying to tell others how they should play the game. You're just another insignificant player like the rest of us.
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