And you see, you're all trivializing the fact, IGNORING the fact, that something is being done to me that I do not want you doing to me.
THAT IS AN ASSAULT.
Whether it's something physical or something in the game, it's the SAME THING (in principle, of course).
You do not have the right to do ANYTHING to me that I don't want you doing. It's just that simple.
No, it isn't. That's the self-centered pampered worldview you've created for yourself once you failed to adjust to reality. The actual definition of assault: "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm."
You are mad that you are participating in a voluntary social activity and that it isn't proceeding according to your inane script. Perhaps if you went and laid down on an interstate, you could yell at traffic to avoid you or else they would be doing something you didn't want them to, and therefore assaulting you? Report back with results!
DO NOT tell me to lighten up when I'm being harassed. It is NOT alright, not under any circumstances.
Here:
While playing Star Trek Online it is against the game policy to intentionally disrupt the game play of other players. Disrupting actions would include:
Preventing content access to other players by Blocking Mobs, Doors, Nodes, Etc Spamming excessive effects
Interfering with player-run events Interfering with player gatherings
Intentionally exploiting game bugs
Utilizing third-party programs to automate unattended game-play
Disobeying instructions given by a Cryptic Game Master
Note the highlights.
I'm now done arguing with you all.
Being this angry at a videogame can't be healthy. Maybe you should step outside and engage in some fun winter activities, like building a snowman, skiing, or a snowball fi...um, nevermind.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
DO NOT tell me to lighten up when I'm being harassed. It is NOT alright, not under any circumstances.
Here:
While playing Star Trek Online it is against the game policy to intentionally disrupt the game play of other players. Disrupting actions would include:
Preventing content access to other players by Blocking Mobs, Doors, Nodes, Etc Spamming excessive effects
Interfering with player-run events Interfering with player gatherings
Intentionally exploiting game bugs
Utilizing third-party programs to automate unattended game-play
Disobeying instructions given by a Cryptic Game Master
Note the highlights.
I'm now done arguing with you all.
Hitting someone with a snowball doesn't come under those headings unless I spam you with 10000000 snowballs in a ten second window.
Stop trying to ruin the game for those of us who know that fun is just fun.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
yes I admit its slightly annoying to get hit by a random snowball and get knocked down, wich is my only annoyance with the snowballs, getting knocked down.
however should others be punished by not being able to have snowball fights, with other people that enjoy it? hell no.
I still maintain my standpoint of "**** the holidays" however.
This thread is both funny and sad at the same time.
Getting hysterical over a virtual snowball is just plain silly.
Of all the things to complain about, you choose getting hit with a snowball, from a space time magic place created by an omnipotent being who's chosen form of entertainment is to troll pretty much everyone. Q would be pleased...or at least mock you for it.
On a side note, I think that gorn characters should be able to throw snowmen at people.
I think you knows the difference between good and evil, so that makes you the sociopath.
In one side we have the lore TRIBBLE, the drozanas weirdos and the party pooper. On the other side we have the cyber bullies whose enjoyment comes from someone else being unhappy.
It's simply too difficult to pick a side, but the fight is extremely enjoyable.
Which is where the requests to be able to ignore the effects of the snowball come into play - things like what bluegeek said or even some GPL nullifier type device...allowing the player that wants to ignore them to ignore them.
While those requests seeking to remove the ability of those that want to enjoy them, have no problem with them, etc, etc, etc - is trespassing into the area along the same lines of the complaint that was being made in the first place and takes on a certain air of hypocrisy.
It's hard to believe so many people are getting bent out of shape at the thought of not being to control other people characters in game. Whoah. I mean, why are are they so desperate to manipulate other people's bodies? There's gotta be some issues going on here. They just have to be able to throw snowball.... at YOU. Probably just real life frustrations manifesting themselves in the game.
That's a rather dark, perverse, and convoluted way to choose to see things, don't you agree?
Of course he agrees, that's why he wondered why people like you are like that.
IMHO, I think it's a form of overcompensation for a lack of something...the fixation on disco balls previously and now snow balls...seeking this form of entertainment in such an anonymous fashion while safely seated behind a computer screen definitely shows a lack of something...wonder what it could be...
In the end, they should neither be the objects of scorn nor hatred, but rather should they not receive some level of sympathy? Obviously something awful happened to them as children that prevented them from developing the normal coping skills which allow most of us to deal with day to day life, almost taking it for granted; while they themselves feel beset upon and plagued by the same to result in what would be considered aberrant social behavior.
Further mind you, should we not also be grateful on some level that they are acting out their fantasies in a game rather than out there in the real world? One can only hope that this provides their family, their friends, their loved ones ample opportunity to find them the help they so desperately need before tolerance sets in and they need to escalate matters to find the same relief or escape they currently find in the game.
In the end, they should neither be the objects of scorn nor hatred, but rather should they not receive some level of sympathy? Obviously something awful happened to them as children that prevented them from developing the normal coping skills which allow most of us to deal with day to day life, almost taking it for granted; while they themselves feel beset upon and plagued by the same to result in what would be considered aberrant social behavior.
Further mind you, should we not also be grateful on some level that they are acting out their fantasies in a game rather than out there in the real world? One can only hope that this provides their family, their friends, their loved ones ample opportunity to find them the help they so desperately need before tolerance sets in and they need to escalate matters to find the same relief or escape they currently find in the game.
Yes but what about those of us who enjoy the snowballs
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Yes but what about those of us who enjoy the snowballs
Fun has to be shrewdly gated, in the same way game content is.
I propose a [lump of coal] item much like the party nullifier for those who have a strong aversion to winter festivities. Put it on the zen store, seems like a win to me.
Yes but what about those of us who enjoy the snowballs
The snowballs are great and should totally be shared amongst those that also wish to enjoy the snowballs. Which is where the hypocrisy comes into play with some of the comments from those that do not enjoy them wishing that nobody can enjoy them. The simple fix is to allow those that wish to enjoy them to do so and those that do not enjoy them not to be bothered by them, right?
The snowballs are great and should totally be shared amongst those that also wish to enjoy the snowballs. Which is where the hypocrisy comes into play with some of the comments from those that do not enjoy them wishing that nobody can enjoy them. The simple fix is to allow those that wish to enjoy them to do so and those that do not enjoy them not to be bothered by them, right?
The simple fix is my official [Snowball Nullifier] - yours for only 300 lobi.
The snowballs are great and should totally be shared amongst those that also wish to enjoy the snowballs. Which is where the hypocrisy comes into play with some of the comments from those that do not enjoy them wishing that nobody can enjoy them. The simple fix is to allow those that wish to enjoy them to do so and those that do not enjoy them not to be bothered by them, right?
You know what? No. No, it is not the simple fix. This is an obvious slippery slope that will lead to the kind of anti-social gamers (who have already demanded a nerf to the greatly popular discoball) demanding nerfs and restrictions on more items. Do you really want to end up in a game where you can't wear your favourite uniform on ESD because the rank tabs were incorrect, and you also had the wrong shade of green on your laces? Or you can't use anything but traditional green disruptors in the KDF? Or fly any non-official canon ships? That's where this kind of thing is going to lead, especially if we keep letting the shrieking poorly-socialised control freak "thinks an ingame snowball is the same as real life maiming and torture" clearly mentally-unbalanced minority dictate terms. Let Cryptic add in fun social items, and then leave them be. Anyone who doesn't like them is almost certainly not the kind of person who anyone would want to be around and they'll hopefully take the hint that if they can't deal with some pretty lights, or dancing, or a brief falling animation, then perhaps they should spend less time on the computer and more time actually socialising.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
You know what? No. No, it is not the simple fix. This is an obvious slippery slope that will lead to the kind of anti-social gamers (who have already demanded a nerf to the greatly popular discoball) demanding nerfs and restrictions on more items. Do you really want to end up in a game where you can't wear your favourite uniform on ESD because the rank tabs were incorrect, and you also had the wrong shade of green on your laces? Or you can't use anything but traditional green disruptors in the KDF? Or fly any non-official canon ships? That's where this kind of thing is going to lead, especially if we keep letting the shrieking poorly-socialised control freak "thinks an ingame snowball is the same as real life maiming and torture" clearly mentally-unbalanced minority dictate terms. Let Cryptic add in fun social items, and then leave them be. Anyone who doesn't like them is almost certainly not the kind of person who anyone would want to be around and they'll hopefully take the hint that if they can't deal with some pretty lights, or dancing, or a brief falling animation, then perhaps they should spend less time on the computer and more time actually socialising.
If the discoball was as popular as you say it was then the defenders would be a greater number than the people who wanted an option to not be affected by it. If that was the case the nulifier would not have made it into the game.
Yes some people go overboard, it doesn't help. However both sides are guilty of that including yourself in this post. Really people who do not think the same as you as to what is fun are anti-social, control freaks, nebtally unbalanced and people no one would want to be friends with.
Again what you find fun others may not and what they find fun you may not. I have the nulifier because I like to choose what fun I want and when. If I am in the mood and someone pops a ball I put the nulifier in the bank and join the crowd. if I am on a tac character I throw a smoke bomb to give the "smokey" dnace floor effect and call down a security escort to add more dancers, if not on a tac I fire off my shard to add two more dancers. When I am not in the mood then I have the option to choose not to be affected by it.
The problem wtih polarised sides is that Cryptic have to choose one side or the other on the numbers of different people who are on the sides and going with the majority. Which means one side loses completely and causes more problems. I think compromise is what is needed on both sides.
I know it has jokingly mentioned but maybe a "nulifier" be an option. This means those that don't want to be affected by snowballs have something that gives them that option and choice. This way snowballs can stay and be used outside WW and the people that enjoy them can continue to do so.
Another option could be what Bluegeek mentioned if a person is interacting with an NPC or object like the bank, mail, and exchange they can't be targetted with the snowball. Again this allows the snowballs to continue to be used outside of WW without interupting things, which is what may annoy people more. After all look at Mudd who until recently interrupted everyone even if they were not dealing with him or were nowhere near him. This is what people found annoying about him.
Let's take WW. I still take part in the Snorg invasion if I am there when it starts even though it is broken because I find it fun, I get more of the rewards from DOFFing so the fact it doesn't give much is irrelevant to me. I like the F&F race and will take part in it if I am there when it is starting and even ifI don't "win", or even come in last I have fun. I even enjoy the snowman attack even with the poor rewards. The only thing I am not fussed about, but have to do for pics, is FGI. Even then I use it to practice running on an ice track to then take that to F&F race to see if I can improve my position in the run.
Do I think people that don't like these are poorly socialised, mentally imblanced control freaks, as you put it? Nope it is just not their thing.
You know what? No. No, it is not the simple fix. This is an obvious slippery slope that will lead to the kind of anti-social gamers (who have already demanded a nerf to the greatly popular discoball) demanding nerfs and restrictions on more items. Do you really want to end up in a game where you can't wear your favourite uniform on ESD because the rank tabs were incorrect, and you also had the wrong shade of green on your laces? Or you can't use anything but traditional green disruptors in the KDF? Or fly any non-official canon ships? That's where this kind of thing is going to lead, especially if we keep letting the shrieking poorly-socialised control freak "thinks an ingame snowball is the same as real life maiming and torture" clearly mentally-unbalanced minority dictate terms. Let Cryptic add in fun social items, and then leave them be. Anyone who doesn't like them is almost certainly not the kind of person who anyone would want to be around and they'll hopefully take the hint that if they can't deal with some pretty lights, or dancing, or a brief falling animation, then perhaps they should spend less time on the computer and more time actually socialising.
whoever put that stick up your TRIBBLE, should really retrieve it sometime soon.
If the discoball was as popular as you say it was then the defenders would be a greater number than the people who wanted an option to not be affected by it. If that was the case the nulifier would not have made it into the game.
Most of the defenders are smarter than me and don't read the forums, unlike the anti-fun people.
Yes some people go overboard, it doesn't help. However both sides are guilty of that including yourself in this post. Really people who do not think the same as you as to what is fun are anti-social, control freaks, nebtally unbalanced and people no one would want to be friends with.
I'm not going overboard though, I'm just using examples from their posts. I shudder to think who would willingly stay around someone who wants to administer an "TRIBBLE kicking" to someone who throws a snowball at them. Not to mention the whole "I should be able to tear out your fingernails" power fantasy.
Again what you find fun others may not and what they find fun you may not. I have the nulifier because I like to choose what fun I want and when. If I am in the mood and someone pops a ball I put the nulifier in the bank and join the crowd. if I am on a tac character I throw a smoke bomb to give the "smokey" dnace floor effect and call down a security escort to add more dancers, if not on a tac I fire off my shard to add two more dancers. When I am not in the mood then I have the option to choose not to be affected by it.
See, the thing is a reasonable person would go do something else if they don't find something in here fun. I don't feel like doing an stf? I don't do it. I don't feel like getting into a dance party on Droz? I leave when it starts. People screaming about how they were assaulted by a videogame snowball instead of taking responsibility and doing something they find fun are the unreasonable ones.
The problem wtih polarised sides is that Cryptic have to choose one side or the other on the numbers of different people who are on the sides and going with the majority. Which means one side loses completely and causes more problems. I think compromise is what is needed on both sides.
I know it has jokingly mentioned but maybe a "nulifier" be an option. This means those that don't want to be affected by snowballs have something that gives them that option and choice. This way snowballs can stay and be used outside WW and the people that enjoy them can continue to do so.
Or they could just leave things be instead of acquiescing to the demands of a minority of forums goers who find fault in everything Cryptic does.
Another option could be what Bluegeek mentioned if a person is interacting with an NPC or object like the bank, mail, and exchange they can't be targetted with the snowball. Again this allows the snowballs to continue to be used outside of WW without interupting things, which is what may annoy people more. After all look at Mudd who until recently interrupted everyone even if they were not dealing with him or were nowhere near him. This is what people found annoying about him.
That's a good idea and Cryptic should look into that, being taken out of the exchange or bank or whatever shouldn't happen.
Let's take WW. I still take part in the Snorg invasion if I am there when it starts even though it is broken because I find it fun, I get more of the rewards from DOFFing so the fact it doesn't give much is irrelevant to me. I like the F&F race and will take part in it if I am there when it is starting and even ifI don't "win", or even come in last I have fun. I even enjoy the snowman attack even with the poor rewards. The only thing I am not fussed about, but have to do for pics, is FGI. Even then I use it to practice running on an ice track to then take that to F&F race to see if I can improve my position in the run.
Do I think people that don't like these are poorly socialised, mentally imblanced control freaks, as you put it? Nope it is just not their thing.
When the people who don't like these start posting their torture and beating fantasies about the people who do like them, alongside demands to have them removed, you'll know they're mentally imbalanced control freaks.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
You know what? No. No, it is not the simple fix. This is an obvious slippery slope that will lead to the kind of anti-social gamers (who have already demanded a nerf to the greatly popular discoball) demanding nerfs and restrictions on more items. Do you really want to end up in a game where you can't wear your favourite uniform on ESD because the rank tabs were incorrect, and you also had the wrong shade of green on your laces? Or you can't use anything but traditional green disruptors in the KDF? Or fly any non-official canon ships? That's where this kind of thing is going to lead, especially if we keep letting the shrieking poorly-socialised control freak "thinks an ingame snowball is the same as real life maiming and torture" clearly mentally-unbalanced minority dictate terms. Let Cryptic add in fun social items, and then leave them be. Anyone who doesn't like them is almost certainly not the kind of person who anyone would want to be around and they'll hopefully take the hint that if they can't deal with some pretty lights, or dancing, or a brief falling animation, then perhaps they should spend less time on the computer and more time actually socialising.
'I want to disrupt your gameplay doing something that I find fun, even if you dislike me doing it to you... and if you do dislike being constantly annoyed/knocked down, then you have a problem and are anti-social' ...
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No, it isn't. That's the self-centered pampered worldview you've created for yourself once you failed to adjust to reality. The actual definition of assault: "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm."
You are mad that you are participating in a voluntary social activity and that it isn't proceeding according to your inane script. Perhaps if you went and laid down on an interstate, you could yell at traffic to avoid you or else they would be doing something you didn't want them to, and therefore assaulting you? Report back with results!
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I have the right to play the game I also pay for, the way I want to play it.
Stop trying to tell others how they should play the game. You're just another insignificant player like the rest of us.
Free Tibet!
Being this angry at a videogame can't be healthy. Maybe you should step outside and engage in some fun winter activities, like building a snowman, skiing, or a snowball fi...um, nevermind.
Hitting someone with a snowball doesn't come under those headings unless I spam you with 10000000 snowballs in a ten second window.
Stop trying to ruin the game for those of us who know that fun is just fun.
Free Tibet!
edit: Had to adjust that better to reflect the one side.
I've got a snowball with your name on it.
Free Tibet!
Oooh, which one am I?
however should others be punished by not being able to have snowball fights, with other people that enjoy it? hell no.
I still maintain my standpoint of "**** the holidays" however.
This thread is both funny and sad at the same time.
Getting hysterical over a virtual snowball is just plain silly.
Of all the things to complain about, you choose getting hit with a snowball, from a space time magic place created by an omnipotent being who's chosen form of entertainment is to troll pretty much everyone. Q would be pleased...or at least mock you for it.
On a side note, I think that gorn characters should be able to throw snowmen at people.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112946225/sadism-in-everyday-people-091213/
Griefing in an on-line game, solely for the purpose of annoying or provoking a reaction from someone is, sadly, a symptom of this
Best to just ignore them...
I think you knows the difference between good and evil, so that makes you the sociopath.
In one side we have the lore TRIBBLE, the drozanas weirdos and the party pooper. On the other side we have the cyber bullies whose enjoyment comes from someone else being unhappy.
It's simply too difficult to pick a side, but the fight is extremely enjoyable.
Which is where the requests to be able to ignore the effects of the snowball come into play - things like what bluegeek said or even some GPL nullifier type device...allowing the player that wants to ignore them to ignore them.
While those requests seeking to remove the ability of those that want to enjoy them, have no problem with them, etc, etc, etc - is trespassing into the area along the same lines of the complaint that was being made in the first place and takes on a certain air of hypocrisy.
Free Tibet!
Of course he agrees, that's why he wondered why people like you are like that.
IMHO, I think it's a form of overcompensation for a lack of something...the fixation on disco balls previously and now snow balls...seeking this form of entertainment in such an anonymous fashion while safely seated behind a computer screen definitely shows a lack of something...wonder what it could be...
Further mind you, should we not also be grateful on some level that they are acting out their fantasies in a game rather than out there in the real world? One can only hope that this provides their family, their friends, their loved ones ample opportunity to find them the help they so desperately need before tolerance sets in and they need to escalate matters to find the same relief or escape they currently find in the game.
The grumpy people get their way but they have to pay an extortionate amount for it.
Free Tibet!
Yes but what about those of us who enjoy the snowballs
Fun has to be shrewdly gated, in the same way game content is.
I propose a [lump of coal] item much like the party nullifier for those who have a strong aversion to winter festivities. Put it on the zen store, seems like a win to me.
The snowballs are great and should totally be shared amongst those that also wish to enjoy the snowballs. Which is where the hypocrisy comes into play with some of the comments from those that do not enjoy them wishing that nobody can enjoy them. The simple fix is to allow those that wish to enjoy them to do so and those that do not enjoy them not to be bothered by them, right?
The simple fix is my official [Snowball Nullifier] - yours for only 300 lobi.
Free Tibet!
You know what? No. No, it is not the simple fix. This is an obvious slippery slope that will lead to the kind of anti-social gamers (who have already demanded a nerf to the greatly popular discoball) demanding nerfs and restrictions on more items. Do you really want to end up in a game where you can't wear your favourite uniform on ESD because the rank tabs were incorrect, and you also had the wrong shade of green on your laces? Or you can't use anything but traditional green disruptors in the KDF? Or fly any non-official canon ships? That's where this kind of thing is going to lead, especially if we keep letting the shrieking poorly-socialised control freak "thinks an ingame snowball is the same as real life maiming and torture" clearly mentally-unbalanced minority dictate terms. Let Cryptic add in fun social items, and then leave them be. Anyone who doesn't like them is almost certainly not the kind of person who anyone would want to be around and they'll hopefully take the hint that if they can't deal with some pretty lights, or dancing, or a brief falling animation, then perhaps they should spend less time on the computer and more time actually socialising.
If the discoball was as popular as you say it was then the defenders would be a greater number than the people who wanted an option to not be affected by it. If that was the case the nulifier would not have made it into the game.
Yes some people go overboard, it doesn't help. However both sides are guilty of that including yourself in this post. Really people who do not think the same as you as to what is fun are anti-social, control freaks, nebtally unbalanced and people no one would want to be friends with.
Again what you find fun others may not and what they find fun you may not. I have the nulifier because I like to choose what fun I want and when. If I am in the mood and someone pops a ball I put the nulifier in the bank and join the crowd. if I am on a tac character I throw a smoke bomb to give the "smokey" dnace floor effect and call down a security escort to add more dancers, if not on a tac I fire off my shard to add two more dancers. When I am not in the mood then I have the option to choose not to be affected by it.
The problem wtih polarised sides is that Cryptic have to choose one side or the other on the numbers of different people who are on the sides and going with the majority. Which means one side loses completely and causes more problems. I think compromise is what is needed on both sides.
I know it has jokingly mentioned but maybe a "nulifier" be an option. This means those that don't want to be affected by snowballs have something that gives them that option and choice. This way snowballs can stay and be used outside WW and the people that enjoy them can continue to do so.
Another option could be what Bluegeek mentioned if a person is interacting with an NPC or object like the bank, mail, and exchange they can't be targetted with the snowball. Again this allows the snowballs to continue to be used outside of WW without interupting things, which is what may annoy people more. After all look at Mudd who until recently interrupted everyone even if they were not dealing with him or were nowhere near him. This is what people found annoying about him.
Let's take WW. I still take part in the Snorg invasion if I am there when it starts even though it is broken because I find it fun, I get more of the rewards from DOFFing so the fact it doesn't give much is irrelevant to me. I like the F&F race and will take part in it if I am there when it is starting and even ifI don't "win", or even come in last I have fun. I even enjoy the snowman attack even with the poor rewards. The only thing I am not fussed about, but have to do for pics, is FGI. Even then I use it to practice running on an ice track to then take that to F&F race to see if I can improve my position in the run.
Do I think people that don't like these are poorly socialised, mentally imblanced control freaks, as you put it? Nope it is just not their thing.
whoever put that stick up your TRIBBLE, should really retrieve it sometime soon.
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Most of the defenders are smarter than me and don't read the forums, unlike the anti-fun people.
I'm not going overboard though, I'm just using examples from their posts. I shudder to think who would willingly stay around someone who wants to administer an "TRIBBLE kicking" to someone who throws a snowball at them. Not to mention the whole "I should be able to tear out your fingernails" power fantasy.
See, the thing is a reasonable person would go do something else if they don't find something in here fun. I don't feel like doing an stf? I don't do it. I don't feel like getting into a dance party on Droz? I leave when it starts. People screaming about how they were assaulted by a videogame snowball instead of taking responsibility and doing something they find fun are the unreasonable ones.
Or they could just leave things be instead of acquiescing to the demands of a minority of forums goers who find fault in everything Cryptic does.
That's a good idea and Cryptic should look into that, being taken out of the exchange or bank or whatever shouldn't happen.
When the people who don't like these start posting their torture and beating fantasies about the people who do like them, alongside demands to have them removed, you'll know they're mentally imbalanced control freaks.
'I want to disrupt your gameplay doing something that I find fun, even if you dislike me doing it to you... and if you do dislike being constantly annoyed/knocked down, then you have a problem and are anti-social' ...
Really?