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Since the last patch i am experiencing a lot of Server not responding problems and also i get stuck many times without the SnR message showing. During a mission today i suddenly got pushed beak c to the far end of the map without warning. Same happened in Fastest game on Ice today, i ended up in the Gazebo, near the race official after i almost had 50% of the race done.

Had a 25 second SnR in bug hunt, a 65 Second SnR in sirius Sector block and a lot (and i mean really a lot) 15-30 SnRs no matter where i was, missions, sector space, WW
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I had the same problem two weeks ago. Between DC's and SnR's I decided to avoid joining any Team Missions. Not fair to the other people on the team whenever I go missing because of something beyond my control.

    Since I couldn't play anyway, I went into Settings on the Loader and changed "On-demand Patching" to "Force verify". Took about twenty minutes or so to complete. So I had some Quality Lurk time here, lol. It did not completely cure the problem, but it did cut it down to the very occasional hiccup rather than dropping me out or rubberbanding me constantly. When Force verify is completed, the Loader reverts automatically to On-demand Patching.
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  • swatopswatop Member Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I have lots of connection problems and lag for meanwhile 2 weeks... but since last patch it got even worse
    the game has become unplayable
    and atm I am not even able to login anymore
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I had the same problem two weeks ago. Between DC's and SnR's I decided to avoid joining any Team Missions. Not fair to the other people on the team whenever I go missing because of something beyond my control.

    Since I couldn't play anyway, I went into Settings on the Loader and changed "On-demand Patching" to "Force verify". Took about twenty minutes or so to complete. So I had some Quality Lurk time here, lol. It did not completely cure the problem, but it did cut it down to the very occasional hiccup rather than dropping me out or rubberbanding me constantly. When Force verify is completed, the Loader reverts automatically to On-demand Patching.

    tried that. Didn´t help.

    rigtht now it is basically onplayable. several Snrs per minute.

    FOr example: i just played "Assimilation". just on the short way through the last room, after killing the Assimilate d undine Boss i had 6 SnRs. 2 times it pushed me back from the Vinculum to the Door. Same with almost every other mission.

    I think this information is needed:


    Tracert

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Alle Rechte vorbehalten.

    C:\Windows\system32>tracert patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41] über maximal
    30 Abschnitte:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms easy.box [192.168.2.1]
    2 36 ms 39 ms 32 ms 10.218.131.12
    3 41 ms 40 ms 46 ms 10.218.131.34
    4 47 ms 38 ms 49 ms 92.79.230.45
    5 64 ms 48 ms 49 ms 92.79.213.178
    6 53 ms 45 ms 49 ms xe-1-2-0.mpr1.fra4.de.above.net [80.81.194.26]
    7 53 ms 45 ms 58 ms ae8.mpr1.fra3.de.above.net [64.125.26.233]
    8 69 ms 49 ms 59 ms ae4.cr1.ams5.nl.above.net [64.125.32.106]
    9 196 ms 158 ms 127 ms xe-10-1-1.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.20.169]

    10 175 ms 159 ms 139 ms ae1.cr1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.29.37]
    11 163 ms 127 ms 139 ms ae7.mpr3.bos2.us.above.net [64.125.21.225]
    12 195 ms 396 ms 141 ms 208.184.110.70.IPYX-072053-002-ZYO.above.net [20
    8.184.110.70]
    13 178 ms 132 ms 185 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.4
    1]
    14 148 ms 152 ms 144 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.
    61.78]
    15 150 ms 141 ms 145 ms 208.95.185.225
    16 290 ms 141 ms 146 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]


    Pathping

    C:\Windows\system32>pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    über maximal 30 Abschnitte:
    0 Anwender-PC [192.168.2.165]
    1 easy.box [192.168.2.1]
    2 10.218.131.12
    3 10.218.131.34
    4 92.79.230.45
    5 92.79.213.178
    6 xe-1-2-0.mpr1.fra4.de.above.net [80.81.194.26]
    7 ae8.mpr1.fra3.de.above.net [64.125.26.233]
    8 ae4.cr1.ams5.nl.above.net [64.125.32.106]
    9 xe-10-1-1.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.20.169]
    10 ae1.cr1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.29.37]
    11 ae7.mpr3.bos2.us.above.net [64.125.21.225]
    12 208.184.110.70.IPYX-072053-002-ZYO.above.net [208.184.110.70]
    13 border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
    14 perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
    15 208.95.185.225
    16 patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 400 Sekunden...
    Quelle zum Abs. Knoten/Verbindung
    Abs. Zeit Verl./Ges.= % Verl./Ges.= % Adresse
    0 Anwender-PC [192.168.2.165]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% easy.box [192.168.2.1]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 102ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.218.131.12
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 93ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.218.131.34
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 67ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 92.79.230.45
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 80ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 92.79.213.178
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% xe-1-2-0.mpr1.fra4.de.above.net [8
    0.81.194.26]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 96ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae8.mpr1.fra3.de.above.net [64.125
    .26.233]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 88ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae4.cr1.ams5.nl.above.net [64.125.
    32.106]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 188ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-10-1-1.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [6
    4.125.20.169]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 176ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1.cr1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.
    29.37]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 190ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae7.mpr3.bos2.us.above.net [64.125
    .21.225]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    12 210ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% 208.184.110.70.IPYX-072053-002-ZYO
    .above.net [208.184.110.70]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    13 225ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net
    [63.251.128.41]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    14 222ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pna
    p.net [216.52.61.78]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    15 228ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.95.185.225
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    16 214ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [2
    08.95.185.41]


    NETTEST




    unable to allocate performance buffer
    contacting nettest server..
    Local IP: 47.68.201.26
    Ping: 157.9 msec
    Port: 80: 178 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 232 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 214 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 285 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 348 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 300 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 210 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 307 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 270 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 434 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 431 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 357 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Idle NIC bandwidth Send: 0 KB/sec Recv: 0 KB/sec
    hit return to exit
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Mine's not as bad as williamsheridan's but I'm getting a lot of them nevertheless. Several per hour.

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Users\REDACTED>tracert patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
    2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms nc-184-7-24-241.sta.centurylinkservices.net [184
    .7.24.241]
    3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms host173.static.centurylinkservices.net [71.2.234
    .173]
    4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 173-248-87-88.centurylink.net [173.248.87.88]
    5 40 ms 21 ms 61 ms 206-51-88-112.centurylink.net [206.51.88.112]
    6 18 ms 18 ms 15 ms 206-51-88-116.centurylink.net [206.51.88.116]
    7 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms bb-rcmtncxa-jx9-02-ae0.core.centurytel.net [208.
    110.248.66]
    8 * * * Request timed out.
    9 * * * Request timed out.
    10 * * * Request timed out.
    11 89 ms 85 ms 106 ms bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [67.14.30.126]
    12 123 ms 105 ms 63 ms 65.120.117.250
    13 72 ms 80 ms 37 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.4
    1]
    14 39 ms 49 ms 35 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.
    61.78]
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]


    Trace complete.

    C:\Users\REDACTED>pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 Hayase [192.168.2.59]
    1 192.168.2.1
    2 nc-184-7-24-241.sta.centurylinkservices.net [184.7.24.241]
    3 host173.static.centurylinkservices.net [71.2.234.173]
    4 173-248-87-88.centurylink.net [173.248.87.88]
    5 206-51-88-112.centurylink.net [206.51.88.112]
    6 206-51-88-116.centurylink.net [206.51.88.116]
    7 bb-rcmtncxa-jx9-02-ae0.core.centurytel.net [208.110.248.66]
    8 * * *
    Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 Hayase [192.168.2.59]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 4ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.2.1
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 6ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% nc-184-7-24-241.sta.centurylinkser
    vices.net [184.7.24.241]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% host173.static.centurylinkservices
    .net [71.2.234.173]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 173-248-87-88.centurylink.net [173
    .248.87.88]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 20ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 206-51-88-112.centurylink.net [206
    .51.88.112]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 24ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 206-51-88-116.centurylink.net [206
    .51.88.116]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 22ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% bb-rcmtncxa-jx9-02-ae0.core.centur
    ytel.net [208.110.248.66]

    Trace complete.
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  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    it would be great, if someone could explain the information, i posted in my previous post, to me.

    I know my connection isn´t the best but i have had a worse connection but still STO was running perfectly
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ...

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    But i have this problem since the last patch. My connection speed is great and i played STO with far slower connection speed and also with more internet connection problems.

    I don´t think that it´s a coincidence that i have this problem since the last patch and not before.

    I can´t even play ToI anymore. I always get disqualified because i find myself somewhere on the map and therefore "left the track".
  • swatopswatop Member Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    and again... massive lag
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    But i have this problem since the last patch. My connection speed is great and i played STO with far slower connection speed and also with more internet connection problems.

    I don´t think that it´s a coincidence that i have this problem since the last patch and not before.

    I can´t even play ToI anymore. I always get disqualified because i find myself somewhere on the map and therefore "left the track".

    No, it is not. Your connection speed is over 1 second between you and cryptic. You could not have played with a worse connection; after a certain threshold is reached the client gives up and suicides... and you are *there* so there is no way it played fine with "worse".

    Of course you can't play TOI. Its over a second of latency. You go for 1+ seconds thru a curve without turning and that is clearly going to throw you out of bounds.

    It may be related to the patch. But the cryptic server is *quite* responsive. I downloaded the big patch in like 5 min. I have pings all the way to the server that are better than some of your single step hops. If the server were messed up, *everyone* would have horrible problems, not just a handful of folks. It is possible that the patch somehow slowed your PC to a crawl somewhere else, starving the comms thread, but the problem really seems to be the long & slow route it takes from you to them.
  • omega4728omega4728 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ever since Q winter event started the i get the SnR messages in the evening (GMT 18:00). and this goes on every evening!


    during the day it works perfectly fine as it worked before Q event.

    so fix the servers since its definitelly not our end!
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    noroblad wrote: »
    No, it is not. Your connection speed is over 1 second between you and cryptic. You could not have played with a worse connection; after a certain threshold is reached the client gives up and suicides... and you are *there* so there is no way it played fine with "worse".

    Of course you can't play TOI. Its over a second of latency. You go for 1+ seconds thru a curve without turning and that is clearly going to throw you out of bounds.

    It may be related to the patch. But the cryptic server is *quite* responsive. I downloaded the big patch in like 5 min. I have pings all the way to the server that are better than some of your single step hops. If the server were messed up, *everyone* would have horrible problems, not just a handful of folks. It is possible that the patch somehow slowed your PC to a crawl somewhere else, starving the comms thread, but the problem really seems to be the long & slow route it takes from you to them.


    I am just talking about my connection speed. i played STO wit h speeds around 4000 kbit/sec without problems. Now i have about 20.000 and lag. And its not me. I have heard that from other players in Germany too.

    And i can´t deny that the ping is very high but again, i have that problem since the patch day. Everything before that worked nicely.

    I donßt know how Ping tests actually work but even above 180 (even if cryptic says its the upper limit) worked good. But at the 7th hop (7/14)i get results at around 290 thats somewhere between here and PWE or how.
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    omega4728 wrote: »
    ever since Q winter event started the i get the SnR messages in the evening (GMT 18:00). and this goes on every evening!


    during the day it works perfectly fine as it worked before Q event.

    so fix the servers since its definitelly not our end!

    Obviously it's not the servers or we'd have thousands of posts that there are server issues. If it's at a specific time, and it's peak time for your network activity then that could also be a reason that is causing your SnR but not everyone else.
    Yes, I'm that Askray@Batbayer in game. Yes, I still play. No, I don't care.
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  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    askray wrote: »
    Obviously it's not the servers or we'd have thousands of posts that there are server issues. If it's at a specific time, and it's peak time for your network activity then that could also be a reason that is causing your SnR but not everyone else.

    Not every player is active on this forum or any forum at all but i know from several other players ( also most of them german, like me) who are experiencing the same problems. And there are also several comments about intense lagging on the STO facebook page

    Oh and btw because noroblad just explained to be why it is obvious that i have problems in ToI and Fastest game on Ice (my fault because i confused ToI with the race) i did a pathping test before and while i was playing. I am sorry that i forgot to copy it so i can´t post it her but all the numbers were higher than the patchping i posted yesterday, which means that it should be worse right? but i had no SNRs this time and no pushbacks. nothing. even with a ping at around 225 i could play Bug hunt advanced without getting pulled back, stuck or even killed.

    I don´t know whats the reason for this. Its abslutely not the ping alone. Could also be something on your side or somewhere between, i don´t know. But, again, its since that patch and nothing about my internet connection or my ISP changed but i could play without any interruption before that.
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Not every player is active on this forum or any forum at all but i know from several other players ( also most of them german, like me) who are experiencing the same problems. And there are also several comments about intense lagging on the STO facebook page

    Oh and btw because noroblad just explained to be why it is obvious that i have problems in ToI and Fastest game on Ice (my fault because i confused ToI with the race) i did a patchtest before and while i was playing. I am sorry that i forgot to copy it so i can´t post it her but all the numbers were higher than the patchping i posted yesterday, which means that it should be worse right? but i had no SNRs this time and no pushbacks. nothing. even with a ping at around 225 i could play Bug hunt advanced without getting pulled back, stuck or even killed.

    I don´t know whats the reason for this. Its abslutely not the ping alone. Could also be something on your side or somewhere between, i don´t know. But, again, its since that patch and nothing about my internet connection or my ISP changed but i could play without any interruption before that.

    That's the thing. Things can change online with internet connections from day to day, and how things find their way to other places also changes and it can be random or expected. Path ping is only a part it. It could be there was lag on that instance, there could of been an internet spike in your area, there could of been a hiccup inbetween your connection and the server etc.
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  • omega4728omega4728 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    the short answer is that it looks like your ISP is throwing away your data packets... Why this is the case, only your ISP knows, so you should contact them and ask why... The connection also suffers from excessive network latency, with 180 ms being the Cryptic recommended upper limit on network latency for reliable game play...


    Well it isnt "our" ISP but more the internet backbone in frankfurt from above.net.

    I did now the pathping aswell and got similar results:

    C:\Users\user>pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    omega4728 wrote: »
    Well it isnt "our" ISP but more the internet backbone in frankfurt from above.net.

    ...
    4 41ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.3.68.218
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% xe-1-2-0.mpr1.fra4.de.above.net [80.81.194.26]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    ...

    is there any workaround to fix this? i tried the EU patch server but with no luck!

    Maybe, maybe not. Symptoms can be caused be Hop #4 not properly sending, or Hop #5 not properly receiving... In either case, its an issue with the ISP Gateway to the Backbone Provider. And technically, the ISP does have some influence, as they're paying for the Backbone bandwidth, which in your case, you are not getting...


    If the EU 'Proxy' setting doesn't help, there isn't much you can do. In desperation, you could try the US 'Proxy' setting, though this is unlikely to work...
  • chrisolliecchrisolliec Member Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I am just talking about my connection speed. i played STO wit h speeds around 4000 kbit/sec without problems. Now i have about 20.000 and lag. And its not me. I have heard that from other players in Germany too.

    And i can´t deny that the ping is very high but again, i have that problem since the patch day. Everything before that worked nicely.

    I donßt know how Ping tests actually work but even above 180 (even if cryptic says its the upper limit) worked good. But at the 7th hop (7/14)i get results at around 290 thats somewhere between here and PWE or how.
    Did you know that the 20k connection is the max speed you can get, but not granted? Your Average speed can lie way below this mark, depending on the distance between your computer and the ISP's hub you're connected to. If it's right in front of your door, you might get the 20K, but 200 m away, you might have 10k on a good day. On a bad day, you might even get less than those 4k you had before...

    I'm german, too, and have a similar experience regarding these connection problems. Between 18:00 and about 22:00, it's almost impossible for me to play, as I ususally don't even get in. Happens with NWO, as well. Other stuff, like YouTube, seems to run well, but looking at the resolution played, I only get 240-480p instead of HD, and trying to set it to HD will cause it to slow down to a point where you'd feel like you are back to ISDN.
    In my opinion, this points to our beloved Telekom, which doesn't seem to be able to handle the evening traffic, anymore. Or someone's rerouting and reading our game traffic.

    I think I'll go and try this tracert thingie, just to see what happens.

    ETA: Here are the test results. I hope they can help finding the issue(s).

    Tracert:

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41] über maximal
    30 Abschnitte:
    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms speedport.ip [192.168.2.1]
    2 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms 217.0.119.11
    3 30 ms 24 ms 25 ms 87.190.164.150
    4 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms f-ed8-i.F.DE.NET.DTAG.DE [217.5.95.90]
    5 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms te0-0-0-16.agr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.149]
    6 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms be2188.ccr42.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.114]
    7 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms be2262.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.33]
    8 49 ms 49 ms 50 ms be2183.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.69]
    9 118 ms 118 ms 118 ms be2387.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.165]
    10 154 ms 207 ms 220 ms te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    11 128 ms 126 ms 125 ms 38.111.40.114
    12 117 ms 118 ms 119 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

    Nettest:

    unable to allocate performance buffer
    contacting nettest server..
    Local IP: 93.211.234.65
    Ping: 600.1 msec
    Port: 80: 406 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 425 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 422 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 421 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 413 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 422 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 422 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 412 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 408 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 0 KB/sec 500
    Idle NIC bandwidth Send: 0 KB/sec Recv: 0 KB/sec

    Pathping:

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    über maximal 30 Abschnitte:
    0 ***.Speedport_W_723V_1_36_000 [192.168.2.101]
    1 speedport.ip [192.168.2.1]
    2 217.0.119.11
    3 87.190.164.150
    4 f-ed8-i.F.DE.NET.DTAG.DE [217.5.95.90]
    5 te0-0-0-16.agr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.149]
    6 be2188.ccr42.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.114]
    7 be2262.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.33]
    8 be2183.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.69]
    9 be2387.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.165]
    10 te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    11 38.111.40.114
    12 patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 300 Sekunden...
    Quelle zum Abs. Knoten/Verbindung
    Abs. Zeit Verl./Ges.= % Verl./Ges.= % Adresse
    0 ***.Speedport_W_723V_1_36_000 [192.168.2.101] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% speedport.ip [192.168.2.1] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 21ms 60/ 100 = 60% 60/ 100 = 60% 217.0.119.11 0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 87.190.164.150 0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 32ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% f-ed8-i.F.DE.NET.DTAG.DE [217.5.95.90] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 31ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% te0-0-0-16.agr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.149] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 31ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2188.ccr42.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.114] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 36ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2262.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.33] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2183.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.69] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 116ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2387.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.165] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 149ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130] 0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 165ms 3/ 100 = 3% 3/ 100 = 3% 38.111.40.114 0/ 100 = 0% |
    12 127ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

    ETA 2:

    Tried to log in, got to the char selection screen, selected char to log in. Waiting a few seconds, watching the char selection screen background. Recieving message: "login2_timeout".
    I guess this is a result of the above measurements...
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    But I'm still a mere human."
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ...
    Pathping:

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
  • chrisolliecchrisolliec Member Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It not good when you loose 60% of your data packets after they go past your local router. This means either something is wrong with either the Router, or the Modem/Gateway, or some other hardware related item (loose cable?)

    Reboot both your Router and Modem/Gateway and see if this improves the condition. If it doesn't, you should contact your ISP Technical support and have them send someone out to take a look at the modem/gateway unit...
    Did another test run, now that it runs quite smooth again... Still losing 49% on that place. Guess that's the reason for some oddities I encounter ingame.
    Will run another test tommorrow morning and see if there's any difference.
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    But I'm still a mere human."
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  • captainkccaptainkc Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I am getting SnR, but not all the time. it only happens when I am trying to do a race, either Fast and Flurrious or Fastest Game on Ice. I will be in the middle of one, or just waiting for the start, when a SnR pops up and I can't compete! This is very annoying!! :mad:

    These are my (partial) network test results, there are supposed to be 10 hops.

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 72.253.224.3
    3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms 67.129.94.230
    4 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms hnl-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [67.129.94.229]
    5 151 ms 152 ms 151 ms bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [67.14.30.130]
    6 153 ms 155 ms 154 ms 65.120.117.250
    7 154 ms 153 ms 154 ms border11.te8-1-bbnet2.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.1
    04]
    8 163 ms 162 ms 161 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.
    61.78]
    9 154 ms 158 ms 161 ms
    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey ... stuff. --the Doctor, "Blink"
  • chrisolliecchrisolliec Member Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I just lost connection a few minutes ago.

    here the pathping results:

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Alle Rechte vorbehalten.
    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    "I came from a time long gone, saw many other times...
    But I'm still a mere human."
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  • chrisolliecchrisolliec Member Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    captainkc wrote: »
    I am getting SnR, but not all the time. it only happens when I am trying to do a race, either Fast and Flurrious or Fastest Game on Ice. I will be in the middle of one, or just waiting for the start, when a SnR pops up and I can't compete! This is very annoying!! :mad:

    These are my (partial) network test results, there are supposed to be 10 hops.

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 72.253.224.3
    3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms 67.129.94.230
    4 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms hnl-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [67.129.94.229]
    5 151 ms 152 ms 151 ms bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [67.14.30.130]
    6 153 ms 155 ms 154 ms 65.120.117.250
    7 154 ms 153 ms 154 ms border11.te8-1-bbnet2.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.1
    04]
    8 163 ms 162 ms 161 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.
    61.78]
    9 154 ms 158 ms 161 ms
    Your tracer results seem to be okay.
    Try a pathping next time you encounter the problem.
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    But I'm still a mere human."
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I just lost connection a few minutes ago.

    ...

    In hop 10, there is a 100% loss.

    The 59% in hop 2 were there earlier and didn't affect my gameplay.

    Actually, 59% is really really bad... Bad enough to make any indications of packet loss further down the connection route unreliable...
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Actually, 59% is really really bad... Bad enough to make any indications of packet loss further down the connection route unreliable...

    I had far worse results than his and it worked perfectly. it worked with a ping of 214 without noticable problems. My problems started on the 12.12 with the patch then around the 16th everything was okay again (ping down to 60-140) till yesterdays patch.
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Alle Rechte vorbehalten.


    C:\Windows\system32>pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Routenverfolgung zu patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Well here's mine maybe it's my luck but I seem to only "not respond" during the races. I would say It's been going on for a week now. I tired a few other MMOs and noticed no similar problems

    I normally come in 1st or second easy, but now I'm lucky if even finish the race. Even the daily will toss me OOB sometimes. I have MUCH fewer problems outside Winter Wonderland.

    This is after /renew and /release. I replaced my IP with TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x

    Many Thanks



    tracert
    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
    2 35 ms 24 ms 27 ms TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-x.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x]
    3 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms 71.145.65.228
    4 28 ms 24 ms 26 ms 12.83.43.25
    5 31 ms 34 ms 25 ms ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.133.33]
    6 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms be2000.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.85]
    7 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.21]
    8 61 ms 48 ms 47 ms be2138.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.202]
    9 51 ms 48 ms 47 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.254]
    10 57 ms 53 ms 53 ms 38.111.40.114
    11 50 ms 48 ms 48 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]


    nettest
    contacting nettest server..
    Local IP: TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x
    Ping: 51.9 msec
    Port: 80: 149 KB/sec 6 KB/sec 158 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 319 KB/sec 14 KB/sec 341 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 179 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 191 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: timed out
    Port: 7255: 228 KB/sec 12 KB/sec 255 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 154 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 169 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 149 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 175 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 196 KB/sec 10 KB/sec 223 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 136 KB/sec 7 KB/sec 153 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 205 KB/sec 11 KB/sec 233 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 177 KB/sec 10 KB/sec 198 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 108 KB/sec 5 KB/sec 115 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 371 KB/sec 16 KB/sec 402 KB/sec 500
    Idle NIC bandwidth Send: 0 KB/sec Recv: 0 KB/sec


    pathping
    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 Victory_MKII_7.att.net [192.168.1.147]
    1 dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
    2 TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-x.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x]
    3 71.145.65.228
    4 12.83.43.25
    5 ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.133.33]
    6 be2000.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.85]
    7 be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.21]
    8 be2138.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.202]
    9 te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.254]
    10 38.111.40.114
    11 xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    otakuboyt wrote: »
    ...
    nettest
    contacting nettest server..
    Local IP: TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x
    Ping: 51.9 msec
    Port: 80: 149 KB/sec 6 KB/sec 158 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 319 KB/sec 14 KB/sec 341 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 179 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 191 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: timed out
    Port: 7255: 228 KB/sec 12 KB/sec 255 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 154 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 169 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 149 KB/sec 8 KB/sec 175 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 196 KB/sec 10 KB/sec 223 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 136 KB/sec 7 KB/sec 153 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 205 KB/sec 11 KB/sec 233 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 177 KB/sec 10 KB/sec 198 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 108 KB/sec 5 KB/sec 115 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 371 KB/sec 16 KB/sec 402 KB/sec 500
    Idle NIC bandwidth Send: 0 KB/sec Recv: 0 KB/sec


    pathping
    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 Victory_MKII_7.att.net [192.168.1.147]
    1 dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
    2 TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-TRIBBLE-x.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x]
    3 71.145.65.228
    4 12.83.43.25
    5 ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.133.33]
    6 be2000.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.85]
    7 be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.21]
    8 be2138.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.202]
    9 te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.254]
    10 38.111.40.114
    11 xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Nothing is wrong with the 'Trace Route' results, so its not a network latency issue...

    'Net Test' shows you can't maintain the 300 KB/sec or better sustained network throughput on a connection, which indicates you have some sort of connection quality issue of some kind..

    Now that 'Path Ping' results, ITS INCOMPLETE!!!, so where's the rest of the output???
  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    sorry about that. I must have forgot the rest of the page



    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 Victory_MKII_7.att.net [192.168.1.147]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 1ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 162-195-232-2.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 24ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 71.145.65.228
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 27ms 77/ 100 = 77% 77/ 100 = 77% 12.83.43.25
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.133.33]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 25ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% be2000.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.85]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 26ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.21]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 50ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% be2138.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.202]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 77ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.254]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 55ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 38.111.40.114
    2/ 100 = 2% |
    11 49ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    otakuboyt wrote: »
    sorry about that. I must have forgot the rest of the page



    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 Victory_MKII_7.att.net [192.168.1.147]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 1ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 162-195-232-2.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.TRIBBLE.x]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 24ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 71.145.65.228
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 27ms 77/ 100 = 77% 77/ 100 = 77% 12.83.43.25
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.133.33]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 25ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% be2000.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.85]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 26ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.21]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 50ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% be2138.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.202]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 77ms 2/ 100 = 2% 2/ 100 = 2% te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.254]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 55ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 38.111.40.114
    2/ 100 = 2% |
    11 49ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Now this explains why you have a connection quality issue. Data packets are being dropped all along your connection route, starting from your DSL router. (For a reliable connection, you should be having ZERO PACKET LOSS...)

    Looks like its time to contact your ISP Tech Support, and ask them about the lost packet problem...
  • blairmarshallblairmarshall Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I've had the same since the patch 2wks ago. First week of Q winter wonderland was great until that patch last Thursday then that system crash that lasted for 4hrs. Since then I've been having trouble. Today (12-20) been getting disconnected ever 5min. Please fix...........
  • captainkccaptainkc Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Now this explains why you have a connection quality issue. Data packets are being dropped all along your connection route, starting from your DSL router. (For a reliable connection, you should be having ZERO PACKET LOSS...)

    Looks like its time to contact your ISP Tech Support, and ask them about the lost packet problem...

    g.o. I seem to be having a similar issue with my ISP but it's limited to two places in my pathping :mad:
    I tried flushdns on two of my avatars but the SnR issues continued.

    EDIT: I spoke to tech support from my ISP after I posted this. The guy said the two instances with 100 percent packet loss -- number 5 and 9 -- were "normal" and nothing more than a hiccup. He suggested that I login again into the game, or check the signal strength of my net connection's router after a d/c, or check with Cryptic/PWE tech support. My impression of our conversation is that what happens down the line is out of his control.


    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 GaryLi-PC.gateway.2wire.net [192.168.1.65]
    1 192.168.1.254
    2 72.253.224.3
    3 * 67.129.94.230
    4 hnl-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [67.129.94.229]
    5 bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [67.14.30.130]
    6 65.120.117.250
    7 border11.te8-1-bbnet2.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.104]
    8 perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
    9 192.168.1.1
    10 patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Computing statistics for 250 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 GaryLi-PC.gateway.2wire.net [192.168.1.65]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.254
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 25ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 72.253.224.3
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 25ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 67.129.94.230
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% hnl-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [67.129.94.229]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [67.14.30.130]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 150ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 65.120.117.250
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 157ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% border11.te8-1-bbnet2.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.104]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 159ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 192.168.1.1
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 153ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    =====
    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey ... stuff. --the Doctor, "Blink"
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