Intrepid Class Interiors

13567

Comments

  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    By withholding the information you have to log in to find out, thus upping their numbers when they want to make the false claims about how successful something is. If you know the price before hand, you may not like the price and not log in. Keep this in mind when wondering why they make a certain move or decision, they are looking for ways to suck your wallet and make numbers look more favorable than player feedback would suggest. All manipulation instead of honesty.

    Sad, but very true.
  • odoniel
    odoniel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hi,

    in my experience the LSR sufferes from awful survivability. so bad in fact that i have stopped using it alltogether and fly the lifetime ship now with my science officer.

    i am not sure the minor increase in hp on the T6 pathfinder will change that at all. compare this ship to any other high end and it just falls short ... even the tactical ships have better hp (and on top of that better avoid plus the higher damage potential) but with all the area damage in the new fleet actions (helloooo artillery) i do not see the pathfinder being anything but roast turkey at 36k hp tops in the base setting.

    my scimitar with my engi in its current state has more than double that hp (76K) and it still gets shredded within seconds in the elite events if i am not really quick on my feet with secondary shields, miracle worker and all the other oh-**** buttons.

    if i look at that i can only guess that pathfinder will be just as much toast as the LSR is already in the advanced fleet actions and that is a shame because it is a damn beautiful ship and i'd love to fly it with my science officer. ablative armor is great but once every three minutes will not save you if you get pummeled every ten seconds by volleys. the only way to survive such a battle would be to always evade everything at which point you would end up being only a burdon to your group because half the time you would not be able to focus on the correct targets (or any target at all).

    up the hp on this vessle please so it won't drop deat the second an enemy is spotted.



    and another more money related question:

    soooo ...

    i do have the LSR and the bellerphone variant already purchased ... since with the pathfinder i would have the whole set, will i get the interior with it or will i be forced to buy the extrapack with the interior as punishment for having given you my monye for two ships already?

    just asking ...
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    odoniel wrote: »
    hi,

    in my experience the LSR sufferes from awful survivability. so bad in fact that i have stopped using it alltogether and fly the lifetime ship now with my science officer.

    i am not sure the minor increase in hp on the T6 pathfinder will change that at all. compare this ship to any other high end and it just falls short ... even the tactical ships have better hp (and on top of that better avoid plus the higher damage potential) but with all the area damage in the new fleet actions (helloooo artillery) i do not see the pathfinder being anything but roast turkey at 36k hp tops in the base setting.

    my scimitar with my engi in its current state has more than double that hp (76K) and it still gets shredded within seconds in the elite events if i am not really quick on my feet with secondary shields, miracle worker and all the other oh-**** buttons.

    if i look at that i can only guess that pathfinder will be just as much toast as the LSR is already in the advanced fleet actions and that is a shame because it is a damn beautiful ship and i'd love to fly it with my science officer. ablative armor is great but once every three minutes will not save you if you get pummeled every ten seconds by volleys. the only way to survive such a battle would be to always evade everything at which point you would end up being only a burdon to your group because half the time you would not be able to focus on the correct targets (or any target at all).

    up the hp on this vessle please so it won't drop deat the second an enemy is spotted.



    and another more money related question:

    soooo ...

    i do have the LSR and the bellerphone variant already purchased ... since with the pathfinder i would have the whole set, will i get the interior with it or will i be forced to buy the extrapack with the interior as punishment for having given you my monye for two ships already?

    just asking ...

    What?!

    Science ships have weak hulls - fine. But they make some of the best SHIELD tanks in the game if set up correctly.

    Heck, my T5-U Nova's shields very rarely drop and when she does get killed it is, 99% of the time, through either shield bleedthrough or shields being taken offline (and even then I last a little while, courtesy of Fleet Neutronium consoles).

    And to be honest, where the Intrepid is concerned, THAT is what the Ablative Generator console is perfect for; it shouldn't really be treated as anything more than an emergency measure to keep you alive when your shields fail.
  • bannon3
    bannon3 Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jshephard wrote: »
    So true, but what about the shuttlebay with the Delta Flyer in it?

    That will be installed Tuesday. ;)
    In Space, Cryptic cant hear you scream!!!
  • admiralkristov
    admiralkristov Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    I would like to point that there was no 2371 Mess Hall, it was the Captain's Private Mess.

    No, that's incorrect.

    At it's launch Voyager had a mess hall with a Captain's mess next to it. Neelix turned the private mess into the kitchen and opened it up to the mess hall. Removing the wall of replicators that separated them.
  • castius
    castius Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So in the news it says that the DS9 Defiant has its own interior aswell, well i have the Defiant but it does not have the original interior or is the original interior for the Defiant the old Defiant bridge pack?
  • captainleavitt
    captainleavitt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    castius wrote: »
    So in the news it says that the DS9 Defiant has its own interior aswell, well i have the Defiant but it does not have the original interior or is the original interior for the Defiant the old Defiant bridge pack?

    The defiant doesn't come with the canon defiant interior. If you want the canon interior then you have to buy the ds9 pack, (not the kdf ds9 pack). Should cost 2500 zen.
  • zuigje010
    zuigje010 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The upcoming Intrepid ship is full of opportunities, including an expansive set of interiors from both the 2371 Intrepid and the 2410 Voyager! Check out the huge variety you can explore here!

    Take a look at some of the rooms you can explore in our latest blog.

    ~LaughingTrendy


    I already have an Intrepid and used a ship upgrade.
    Does my current Voyager ship gets upgraded to this T6 ship or do I get a special token.
    I will feel cheated and peed on as a customer if I am stuck with an obsolete ship.
    If you already told us before DR you were planning
    this I wouldn't have spend money to get the Voyager ship before DR and wouldn't have upgraded.

    So Trendy am I screwed by Cryptic and Perfectworld yet again or can we upgrade our current ship to this T6 version?

    Or you just going to ignore us customers yet again?

    Hope for a reply soon cuz I am really starting to loose my temper with you guys.
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    zuigje010 wrote: »
    I already have an Intrepid and used a ship upgrade.
    Bad luck

    Does my current Voyager ship gets upgraded to this T6 ship or do I get a special token.
    Nope - no upgrade, no token

    I will feel cheated and peed on as a customer if I am stuck with an obsolete ship.
    It's not technically obsolete. Just not as good as the T6 version.

    If you already told us before DR you were planning
    this I wouldn't have spend money to get the Voyager ship before DR and wouldn't have upgraded.
    That's the whole point - if they had told you, you wouldn't have spent money on the T5-U upgrade. By NOT saying anything they've benefitted from people buying upgrades AND people buying the new ship/ship packs

    So Trendy am I screwed by Cryptic and Perfectworld yet again or can we upgrade our current ship to this T6 version?
    You are screwed. No upgrade. They pocket your money from you having purchased the T5-U token. You have to pay again for the T6 version. And then again for the Fleet T6, when it comes

    Or you just going to ignore us customers yet again?
    Considering they won't even tell us the cost of the new Intrepid packs, and we're going to have to find out for ourselves when we log in post-patch later, I think this one answers itself.

    Hope for a reply soon cuz I am really starting to loose my temper with you guys.
    About as likely as them telling us how much the packs are going to cost

    Replies in red.
  • zuigje010
    zuigje010 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Replies in red.


    Was hoping for them to reply but thanks anyway, think I will quit the game just like many others are doing, this is just a joke cba to keep getting milked by these thiefs......

    I know understand why people exploit the hell out of this game!
  • organicmanfred
    organicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Replies in red.

    Can you remember the day, when you lost all the love you once had?
    Where has all you passion and positive attitude gone:(
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Can you remember the day, when you lost all the love you once had?
    Where has all you passion and positive attitude gone:(

    Still there. Just not applicable to the matter at hand, sadly.
  • captainleavitt
    captainleavitt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014

    You can carry on using your T5-U ship and just purchase the interior if you wish, there is nothing in this game that requires a T6 science ship, your current ship is fine.

    If you do leave, can I haz yer stuff? ;)

    I'm sorry but this is false. You cannot buy the interior without buying the whole pack or for a limited time by the tier 6 ship.
  • hillbrowhitmn
    hillbrowhitmn Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    No Tier 5 ship is upgradeable to T6, you can only get it to T5-U which you currently have.



    Your ship is far from obsolete, a T5-U fleet Intrepid has more console slots than the T6 Intrepd for starters. If by obsolete you mean it's not the very latest design despite being as good or almost as good then yes it's obsolete, but as a player who is taking an NX01 from 50 to 60 with very little difficulty please don't think that your T5-U is obsolete, that is a nonsense statment.




    Right so the fact that Voyager is a major part of the DR content, the fact that they stated they would release the full ship interior, the fact that many people have been talking about a T6 Intrepid didn't give you a clue? I have a fleet Intrepid and there's no way I would have upgraded it, to me and many others it was obvious a T6 version was coming. I agree it would have been fantastic of Cryptic to advise us that it would be here soon so it's not worth spending your upgrade token on, but that wouldn't make good business sense. Businesses know that people can't wait to get the next shiny, even if it's obsolete in a few weeks, it's up to you the paying customer to use some discretion, do some research and restrain yourself until you have all the facts, otherwise you're always going to go through life wasting money on the next shiny.



    See above answer, no they didn't TRIBBLE you, you were impatient and didn't do your research.



    Just because they don't answer you specifically or address your question in the manner in which you feel entitled does not mean they are ignoring you. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of questions on these forums from people that don't get a specific answer, instead they are busy working on new content and fixing bugs, if you don't like it you don't have to buy it.



    Yeah good luck with that.

    You can carry on using your T5-U ship and just purchase the interior if you wish, there is nothing in this game that requires a T6 science ship, your current ship is fine.

    If you do leave, can I haz yer stuff? ;)


    Get back in your cave troll. Not all of us are forum nerds and read the Perfectworld website on a daily basis like you do! They could have announced something before DR was released. So what is next? The Galaxy Dreadnaught T6? Defiant T6? All ships T6? zuigje010 and reyan01 are absolutely right!
  • hillbrowhitmn
    hillbrowhitmn Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I read the forums, the dev blogs, I play the game and converse with my fleet mates, I educate myself on what is happening in the game and absolutely if I am going to spend real money.


    In your previous post you said "everyone was talking about" but there is not many reading the forums or checking the website like you do, this was a complete surprise to many as you could have read in the other forum posts when this T6 ship got introduced. The anger of so many players and all just got ignored by Cryptic and Perfectworld.
    It's still a rip off tho, many players bought the ship before DR got launched, bought fleet ship and upgraded it and now they come with this T6 version. It's just lame, all T5 version owners should get atleast a token to buy to get that ship to T6.
    DR has been nothing but trouble since it's launch I see my friends quitting the game on a daily basis!
  • captainleavitt
    captainleavitt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is that confirmed, I must have missed that? Seems I don't spend enough time on the forums LOL.

    Yes it is. It's listed on the blog when they announced the pathfinder. All the buying options are near the bottom of the blog. Here is a copy and paste.

    Availability

    This awesome new science vessel will be available in the C-Store in three packages:

    Long Range Science Vessel [T6]
    Standard single ship
    Intrepid Pack
    Includes:
    Long Range Science Vessel Refit
    Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit
    Long Range Science Vessel [T6]
    Standard Intrepid Interior
    Season 7 Voyager Interior
    Long Range Science Vessel [T6] + Voyager Bridge Interiors (LIMITED TIME ONLY!)
    Includes:
    Long Range Science Vessel [T6]
    Standard Intrepid Interior
    Season 7 Voyager Interior

    In addition to these three great options for purchasing the Pathfinder there will also be a $5 discount on every Pathfinder microtransaction from Thursday morning through Monday morning.

    What I don't understand is why they can't sell us the interior by itself for 25 dollars. I don't want the pathfinder and I already own the c store ones.
  • luddimus
    luddimus Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    deltas6 wrote: »
    it wouldve been awesome if the design team had time to do the shuttle bay ;)

    Make the shuttle bay generic with shuttle officer on the console; select the shuttle you want from your inventory and there it can appear on the launchpad :)
  • imadoctornota
    imadoctornota Member Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The interior looks FANTASTIC!!! I'm glad I've been stockpiling my zen, because this is just the sort of thing I've been waiting for!
    I found this to be VERY exciting as well:
    "We really hope you enjoy the Intrepid interior, and you can look forward to us bringing you more iconic spaces in the future."

    I'm going to hold you to that! Next up: Galaxy Class Interior, complete with battle bridge! :cool:
    Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
    9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
  • hillbrowhitmn
    hillbrowhitmn Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Thank you, a much better response.

    Well I run the SRS fleets, a group of four fleets with around 800 people in total. In our teamspeak every evening we chat about all aspects of the game. Since the day we saw the first screenshots of the Voyager interior and found out that Tuvok was going to be in Voyager for Delta Rising it was pretty much agreed by all that an upgraded "special" Intrepid was to be released.

    I do agree as I said in a previous post, that it would have won a lot of hearts and minds for Cryptic if they had announced a T6 version was definite, however community communication is hardly their strongest point and it was therefore assumed by us (the fleet) that this would be coming, just a matter of when. We have many science Captains that run or have run fleet Intrepids and to my knowledge none have them have upgraded due to the suspicion that a T6 version would be on the cards.

    At the end of the day it's not a fortune, an upgrade token is about £4 or $6, but the principle is what have a lot of people miffed and on this point I agree.

    Nothing wrong with my previous reply to your post and ye like many others this feels like a scam to me and no love for those that already bought the T5 version especially those that bought 1, and the fleet version and upgraded it just before DR launched.
    Anyway this all doesn't apply on me I don't own a sci ship but I do feel for those that feel scammed by this. Anyway enough forum posting for me, seems like Cryptic and Perfectworld don't care so see you all later.
  • tacofangs
    tacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    I would like to point that there was no 2371 Mess Hall, it was the Captain's Private Mess.

    Not quite. The area Neelix converted into the Kitchen, was the Captain's Private Mess. However, the dining room area was always there (as seen in Caretaker), and there was simply a wall of Replicators between the two rooms. (and no apparent door from one to the other)

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivzei27ulem1ef4/Voyager_Mess_Hall_0091.jpg?dl=0

    jshephard wrote: »
    So true, but what about the shuttlebay with the Delta Flyer in it?

    Sorry, didn't have time for it, and it wasn't important enough in the DR story missions to prioritize it above other things.

    Technically it's a redress of the Cargo Bay though, so some of it is already built.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • senatorvreenak
    senatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Not quite. The area Neelix converted into the Kitchen, was the Captain's Private Mess. However, the dining room area was always there (as seen in Caretaker), and there was simply a wall of Replicators between the two rooms. (and no apparent door from one to the other)

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivzei27ulem1ef4/Voyager_Mess_Hall_0091.jpg?dl=0




    Sorry, didn't have time for it, and it wasn't important enough in the DR story missions to prioritize it above other things.

    Technically it's a redress of the Cargo Bay though, so some of it is already built.

    Should Voyager's shuttlebay be featured in the future, is there any chance that the Ship Interiors would be tweaked to include it as well?
  • krio09
    krio09 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    When are we going to be able to customers the layout of our interiors and get more practicality. e.g. setting course from with in the ship then chilling out in the mess hall, or viewing the map from astrometrics...

    Its nice to have these cannon interiors (and by the way the original MASSIVE ones were ridiculous), but we need more things to do in them, I rarely visit my bridge... In some games you can customise your 'home space' and add things in as you want and make it unique for you.

    The foundry would be perfect tool for doing these customisations, and I know all this was mentioned in the early days of the game...
  • adverbero
    adverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »



    Sorry, didn't have time for it, and it wasn't important enough in the DR story missions to prioritize it above other things.

    Technically it's a redress of the Cargo Bay though, so some of it is already built.

    May I safely assume that access to the Small craft is from the transporter officer like on the the standard interior ?
    solar_approach_by_chaos_sandwhich-d74kjft.png


    These are the Voyages on the STO forum, the final frontier. Our continuing mission: to explore Pretentious Posts, to seek out new Overreactions and Misinformation , to boldly experience Cynicism like no man has before.......
  • stardestroyer001
    stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    These are very, very nice interiors. I can't wait to check them out in person once the server goes back up.

    On a side note:
    During production for Voyager, the creation of a large number of sets were re-dresses of the TNG sets. Curved hallways were extended, the color scheme was changed, Engineering had walls and ceilings taken down and a second deck added, etc.

    Making the Voyager interior was a good move by Cryptic, as a significant chunk of the Voyager interiors can be reused to make the TNG sets, if they so desired.
    stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
    Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9
    My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
  • pwesuricata
    pwesuricata Member Posts: 49 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2014
    These are very, very nice interiors. I can't wait to check them out in person once the server goes back up.

    On a side note:
    During production for Voyager, the creation of a large number of sets were re-dresses of the TNG sets. Curved hallways were extended, the color scheme was changed, Engineering had walls and ceilings taken down and a second deck added, etc.

    Making the Voyager interior was a good move by Cryptic, as a significant chunk of the Voyager interiors can be reused to make the TNG sets, if they so desired.

    It's actually even more fun than that. Many of the TNG sets were from the original TOS movies simply redressed, some of the TNG sets were also redressed for the TOS movies as well, such as engineering for the Ent-A. After TNG some were redressed for Voyager, although Voyager had many sets built from scratch, some of those sets were then redressed for the Enterprise-E. When DS9 ended most of the Defiant sets (including the bridge) were redressed for ENT. :-D
  • khamseenair
    khamseenair Member Posts: 2,637 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    It's actually even more fun than that. Many of the TNG sets were from the original TOS movies simply redressed, some of the TNG sets were also redressed for the TOS movies as well, such as engineering for the Ent-A. After TNG some were redressed for Voyager, although Voyager had many sets built from scratch, some of those sets were then redressed for the Enterprise-E. When DS9 ended most of the Defiant sets (including the bridge) were redressed for ENT. :-D

    You beat me to it haha! A keen eye will spot many of the sets across the shows and films are made up from pieces (if not just the whole set recoloured) of all the others. The sickbay set used on Voyager has been getting moved around for various ships and even parts of it used in other rooms since TMP.
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!