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Kobali Adventure Zone end mission spoiler

somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 10,222 Arc User
edited January 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
This is only for people who want to be spoiled or have beaten the Kobali Adventure zone.



At the end, you revisit the Kobali Temple where all the vaadwaur are in cryo tubes, and after you and Captain Kim leave the temple at the end of the short mission...... you see another Kim inside a stasis pod, with someone standing over him saying they will take good care of him.

So Kim is apparently dead, or in stasis, and replaced by a clone? Mirror universe counterpart?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited October 2014
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ...hey, wasn't there a post awhile back where one person was complaining about the other Harry Kim or something?
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited October 2014
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Harry Kim died in the second season and the Harry Kim we know for most episodes is from another dimension where his Voyager was destroyed. Makes sense for the Kobali to recover the original Harry Kim's corpse.
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There where two Harry Kims in the series. In fact the one who made it home was not the original. The original was blown into space during a Viidian attack. Now seeing as how the Kobali reanimate and alter other species to reproduce it is possible they found him and stuck him in a tube for preservation, especially since Harrys kinda sorta girlfriend became a Kobali after she died.
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    If my memory is correct, I believe "Deadlock" was the episode where the "real" Harry Kim died.

    That is correct.
  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There was 13 pages discussion going on about this.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1201591

    I am surprised now. :eek:
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    admiralcarter wrote: »
    There was 13 pages discussion going on about this.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1201591

    I am surprised now. :eek:

    THAT'S the one I remembered being talked about!
  • captainstevetngcaptainstevetng Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I was wondering if they are actually going to tie this story thread up in some fashion.
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    captainstevetng wrote: »
    I was wondering if they are actually going to tie this story thread up in some fashion.
    Wait a year or two and wait for Kobali Kim to show up in a brief cameo before disappearing for good? heck, take a look at how the Sela thing seems to be getting resolved.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    catoblepasbeta wrote: »
    Wait a year or two and wait for Kobali Kim to show up in a brief cameo before disappearing for good? heck, take a look at how the Sela thing seems to be getting resolved.
    catoblepasbeta wrote: »
    Wait a year or two and wait for Kobali Kim to show up in a brief cameo before disappearing for good? heck, take a look at how the Sela thing seems to be getting resolved.

    And that's a very optimistic thought.
    Tying loose ends really isn't one of cryptic's strengths.
    Sela is a very good example here, she was kidnapped in march 2011 and now her story progresses....kinda.... maybe more after the anniversary. And she was a important character unlike dead Harry. It's best to forget about him and just be happy if they'll do something with this plot point at all.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Technically, there was no "Original" Kim...

    Original indicates that one was made before the other, which is not the case for the episode in question.

    In the episode, the matter was duplicated on a quantum level, so all in all they were both the original, or both copies, depending on how you look at it.
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  • cruzistcruzist Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think the first Kobali the Voyager crew ever met will make an appearance. She did like Harry Kim.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Technically, there was no "Original" Kim...

    Original indicates that one was made before the other, which is not the case for the episode in question.

    In the episode, the matter was duplicated on a quantum level, so all in all they were both the original, or both copies, depending on how you look at it.

    Personally, I prefer the current Harry Kim to be a parallel universe version. His Voyager just got too close to the main Voyager. So the barrier between realities was just too thin. The energy required and complexity to create a completely identical Voyager with crew is insane.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    This is only for people who want to be spoiled or have beaten the Kobali Adventure zone.



    At the end, you revisit the Kobali Temple where all the vaadwaur are in cryo tubes, and after you and Captain Kim leave the temple at the end of the short mission...... you see another Kim inside a stasis pod, with someone standing over him saying they will take good care of him.

    So Kim is apparently dead, or in stasis, and replaced by a clone? Mirror universe counterpart?

    WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

    that is the original harry kim from the original journey, there have been other version of harry kim since and there is another version of naomi wildman as well.
    gofasternow wrote: »
    ...hey, wasn't there a post awhile back where one person was complaining about the other Harry Kim or something?

    infact it was a few weeks back when i was last in that thread about harry kim. some suggested its the kobali who used to be lyndsey ballard was looking over him, considering what i know about the two of them, i believe if true that it is a misguided attempt at love on her part.
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  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So, how many dead Harrys does it take to TRIBBLE in a lightbulb?
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Technically there were three Harry Kim's, if you count the Demon planet version, too.
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  • betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    Harry Kim died in the second season and the Harry Kim we know for most episodes is from another dimension where his Voyager was destroyed.

    As well as Naomi Wildman ... that sucks they could not get her in here for the whole DR thing.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    Technically there were three Harry Kim's, if you count the Demon planet version, too.
    I'm pretty sure she is one speaking above Kim's "corpse" in the cutscene. She was conveniently missing from the whole Kobali arc, and yet, she is the best one you could think about for bridging fed and Kobali, considering her past.
    cruzist wrote: »
    I think the first Kobali the Voyager crew ever met will make an appearance. She did like Harry Kim.
    And none of them were promoted. That says something !
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Ok, so if the Kobali have Kim's body, than how the hell did they even ever find it, floating thru space in the first place?

    I mean really, what's the odds they could even find it, let alone even know that one was flung into the vacuum of space in the first place?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    Ok, so if the Kobali have Kim's body, than how the hell did they even ever find it, floating thru space in the first place?

    I mean really, what's the odds they could even find it, let alone even know that one was flung into the vacuum of space in the first place?

    sensors can detect 'lifesigns' and 'lifeforms', there is a difference.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    Ok, so if the Kobali have Kim's body, than how the hell did they even ever find it, floating thru space in the first place?

    I mean really, what's the odds they could even find it, let alone even know that one was flung into the vacuum of space in the first place?

    Well when it can't be logically explained go with this. GOD WILLS IT!
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    Ok, so if the Kobali have Kim's body, than how the hell did they even ever find it, floating thru space in the first place?

    I mean really, what's the odds they could even find it, let alone even know that one was flung into the vacuum of space in the first place?
    They already found the corpse of Lindsay, and they weren't looking for it. And what are the odds of randomly stumbling upon a corpse in space ?
    Now, we are not experimented with space outside of the solar system, and perhaps it's literally filled by aliens corpses, but somehow, I don't think so.
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Considering that we frequently see funerals as placing people in tubes and sending them into space - though space is quite vast - I believe the chances aren't all that bad.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    fmgtorres1979 wrote: »
    Considering that we frequently see funerals as placing people in tubes and sending them into space - though space is quite vast - I believe the chances aren't all that bad.
    I hope that's irony, because we have a lot of funeral in sea, and yet the seas are not a graveyard. In fact, the chance to find a floating body is really low. Slightly higher to find a body while fishing.

    And to say the size of seas is infinitely smaller than space would be far away from the truth.
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    I hope that's irony, because we have a lot of funeral in sea, and yet the seas are not a graveyard. In fact, the chance to find a floating body is really low. Slightly higher to find a body while fishing.

    And to say the size of seas is infinitely smaller than space would be far away from the truth.

    It was a joke!
    Needle in haystack is about 1 million times easier than finding a body "at random" in space.
  • mysticwalshmysticwalsh Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    fmgtorres1979 wrote: »
    It was a joke!
    Needle in haystack is about 1 million times easier than finding a body "at random" in space.

    Here's the thing, IF it is his old girlfriend, and IF its a recent thing, it's quite possible his body was preserved in the vacuum of space(forgetting decompression for now). and she went looking for it the past few decades and finally found it...

    the real question is will they expand on this story line or just leave it up in the air as something creepy.
  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Not reading it! LALALALALALA I can't hear you! lalalalala
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