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Upcoming changes to Hangar Pets and Separation pets.
crypticgeko
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We will be making some changes to Carrier Pets (e.g. Peregrine Fighters, To'Duj Fighter, Klingon Bird of Prey Pets, etc.), separation pets (like a Galaxy separated saucer, MVAM Pets, and Tal’Kyr Support craft, etc.), as well as similarly related pets (like the Odyssey Work Bees, consumable device Scorpion Fighters, Gorn Healing Platform Drones, etc.). All these items are leveless items and all these pets were using incorrect data that was causing their HP, shields, damage and healing to be too high. In some cases, the sum of the players pets were far outperforming the player’s ship itself. The HP, shields, damage, healing and related values for these pets are all being reduced to scale more consistently with other player gear.
Pets that are not affected are those that deal damage based on the player, instead of independent data. Changing these pets would have no affect since they are already using player data (e.g. Andorian Wing Cannons, Avenger VATA torpedo, Bio-neural Warhead, etc.).
This change only affects pets, and not the playable versions of any of these ships (e.g. the playable Jem Hadar Attack Ship and Danube Runabout are not affected).
Here is a complete list of all pets that are affected. If a pet is missed, it is probably a mistake. Please let us know, and we will look into it.
Bleth Choas Fighter
Danube Runabout
Delta Flyer
Fer'Jai Frigate
Ha'feh Assault Warbird
Ha'nom Guardian Warbird
HoH'SuS Bird-of-Prey
Hull Repair Drone
Jem'Hadar Attack Ship
Jem'Hadar Fighter
Kazon Raider
Marauding Force Shuttle
Monbosh Control Craft
Monbosh Support Craft
N.X. Aquarius
Obelisk Swarmer
Oschu Shuttle
Peregrine Fighter
Plesh Brek Frigate
Power Siphon Drone
Qulash Frigate
Romulan Drone Ship
Scorpion Fighter
Shield Repair Shuttle
Shield Repair Unit
Stalker Fighter
Starfleet Chevron
Starfleet Saucer
Tachyon Drone
Tal'Kyr Support Craft
Tholian Mesh Weaver
Tholian Widow Fighter
To'Duj Fighter
Type 8 Shuttle
Vector Alpha
Vector Beta
Vector Gamma
Voth Heavy Fighter
Work Bee CMU
Xindi-Aquatic Mobulai Frigate
Look for this change to go live to Holodeck in about 2-3 weeks.
LLAP
Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
Pets that are not affected are those that deal damage based on the player, instead of independent data. Changing these pets would have no affect since they are already using player data (e.g. Andorian Wing Cannons, Avenger VATA torpedo, Bio-neural Warhead, etc.).
This change only affects pets, and not the playable versions of any of these ships (e.g. the playable Jem Hadar Attack Ship and Danube Runabout are not affected).
Here is a complete list of all pets that are affected. If a pet is missed, it is probably a mistake. Please let us know, and we will look into it.
Bleth Choas Fighter
Danube Runabout
Delta Flyer
Fer'Jai Frigate
Ha'feh Assault Warbird
Ha'nom Guardian Warbird
HoH'SuS Bird-of-Prey
Hull Repair Drone
Jem'Hadar Attack Ship
Jem'Hadar Fighter
Kazon Raider
Marauding Force Shuttle
Monbosh Control Craft
Monbosh Support Craft
N.X. Aquarius
Obelisk Swarmer
Oschu Shuttle
Peregrine Fighter
Plesh Brek Frigate
Power Siphon Drone
Qulash Frigate
Romulan Drone Ship
Scorpion Fighter
Shield Repair Shuttle
Shield Repair Unit
Stalker Fighter
Starfleet Chevron
Starfleet Saucer
Tachyon Drone
Tal'Kyr Support Craft
Tholian Mesh Weaver
Tholian Widow Fighter
To'Duj Fighter
Type 8 Shuttle
Vector Alpha
Vector Beta
Vector Gamma
Voth Heavy Fighter
Work Bee CMU
Xindi-Aquatic Mobulai Frigate
Look for this change to go live to Holodeck in about 2-3 weeks.
LLAP
Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
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I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
"Nope, just my away team" the trill replies before ordering a round for the bar.
Given things like destructable torps, and warp core breaches (which account for most pet deaths from my personal and anecdotal experience), it would make more sense.
To reiterate an earlier comment, pets will blow up if you breathe on them the wrong way. I don't even bother using them against Voth NPCs anymore.
my vesta pets never live long enough to cry anyway so it will be no change for them.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Sarr Thein for Christmas this year.
'Using incorrect data' for as good as all pets?! Like all XP tables were suddenly using incorrect data?
Very saddened by this.
Not just this, Plesh Brek Frigates, Elachi Oschu Shuttles, Elachi Qulash Frigates, and Kazon Raiders.
Looks like the Sarr Theln, the. Kazon Carrier, and the Sheshar Dreadnought are all on the way.
I know you said they're pulling incorrect data and getting boosted higher than intended, but given how utterly useless they are against any enemy that has AoE attacks due to their low health getting them killed almost instantly (on normal difficulty, never mind advanced or heaven forbid elite) and fairly low damage output already and it seems counterproductive to lower their stats.
Combat space pets really do need to be revisited, but unless this is the first step in doing that I don't see how this will be beneficial to the game in any way whatsoever.
I know, they finally took one step forward again in a few matters to try and mend things with the player base, and now they go and do this to upset all carrier and separation capable ship owners who already have it far tougher than ever. I have had a great deal of patience with what they are doing to this game more so than I should, but it's becoming harder and harder to justify sticking around. I'm going to still give them a chance but this is really pushing it.
Looks like Mr. Rivera just saved himself the time of having to write a dev blog for them.
It's an American franchise, and it should stay that way.
PWE turns everything into a grind -.-
Mwahahahahahahaha
Also is this true for all versions of these pets or just the elite versions?
And when you say that in some cases the pet outperformed the carrier, have you accounted for science captains deliberately hanging out of range while sending pets in to do ALL the work? Or just moving in to drop attack pattern beta and other debuffs? Some of us have specificallybuilt our carriers so our pets do more than we do. Because, when was the last time a real world carrier unloaded a broadside on an enemy ship? Or accounted for some builds being really, really bad?
Either way, thanks for the warning.
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- Judge Aaron Satie
... along with the Yellowstone Runabout.
... and the S'Kul Fighters.
But will we get that? I doubt it...
People are talking about how they are parsing their pets at 10k DPS. That seems a bit high to me.