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  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Drama. Some people just live for making a scene and watching what happens.

    You sure post a lot. You must be pretty important huh?
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I cant keep acting like this game is ever gonna get better its not

    and if cryptic doesnt care enough about their own game to take the time to fix it

    i dont have the time to play it

    Ive already uninstalled ARC and both STO and Neverwinter

    And said happy trails to my fleetmates

    and now its time to bow out and move on to other adventures...FUN ones.

    no you cant haz my stuffs

    but cryptic knows where they can stick this game

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you cant leave me !!!!!!!!!
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    They are against the rules because they always turn into flame threads.

    And this is why the forum rules need to be changed.

    There's rules and regulations to keep public peace, and then there's oppression and silencing. This is one of those instances where PWE goes too far to keep peace. (Hint hint: Hire more paid/volunteer moderators!)
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    A player never truly quits unless they delete all their characters. Most I Quit threads are I am taking a break from the game and I might be back. There has to be some symbolic gesture made to show that they are quitting and never coming back. Creating I Quit threads doesn't do that.
    i think it was kirkphat who rage quit and gave away all his stuff. he sold all his gear that he couldn't give away and then gave away the ecs to people who asked for it. then a couple months later he was back in the game begging people to give him ec and gear to restock his empthy characters.
  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    why is it when people know they shouldnt create "i quit" threads, they do it anyways?

    if your gonna quit then quit and none of us need to know the reason why. one day when you feel like it, return to the game at some other point when your upto it.

    in any event its getting reported.

    Why is it when people create I quit threads people like you obsessively bump them with inane posts? You are part of the problem.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    why is it when people know they shouldnt create "i quit" threads, they do it anyways?

    Maybe because they got nothing to lose any more?! :P
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  • darthwoodarthwoo Member Posts: 371 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    kozar2 wrote: »
    Why do the people who do these threads think any of gives a TRIBBLE about what they do?

    Dear OP and all other "I quiters". You are not important and nobody cares whether you are playing STO or not. Nobody notices your absence whether announced or not.

    Speak for yourself, but those of us who actually have good relations with other players in the game will often tend to notice their absence, whether through deliberate departure or unforeseen circumstances.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    And this is why the forum rules need to be changed.

    There's rules and regulations to keep public peace, and then there's oppression and silencing. This is one of those instances where PWE goes too far to keep peace. (Hint hint: Hire more paid/volunteer moderators!)
    no. this is why the forums need actual moderation with actual infractions and bannings. the ignore method only favors the people who want to rage about everything, and the ragers force most of the people who just want to talk about the game off the forum.
  • cruzistcruzist Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    they are forbidden because they are useless.


    Hmm, based on that I think I've seen quite a few forbidden threads not get closed.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    no. this is why the forums need actual moderation with actual infractions and bannings. the ignore method only favors the people who want to rage about everything, and the ragers force most of the people who just want to talk about the game off the forum.
    (Hint hint: Hire more paid/volunteer moderators!)
    There's your solution, right in the line you quoted. More moderators means more offenders being caught, more ToS enforcement, and a stronger infraction system.
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  • wilbor2wilbor2 Member Posts: 1,684 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I recognized most of the words individually and their slang meaning, but there was a couple things missing from the sentence that made me wince as I read it. I got the jist, but it could have flowed smoother.

    Grass threw me. Snitch I got but I've never heard grass snitch used or just grass to describe an informer.

    Im on my phone soz for grammer its hard enough to type with no typos. Snitch is a old british tv show name grass is a newer name in the UK.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There's your solution, right in the line you quoted. More moderators means more offenders being caught, more ToS enforcement, and a stronger infraction system.
    no. the solution is to stop using the ignore method. right now you can say and do anyting on the forum and all cryptic mods do is close threads that get to noisy. we need to get back to the early days of sto when you got infractions for your rule-breaking actions, and those infractions led to temporary and then permanent banning from the forum. closing threads doen't stop ragers from simply raging in other threads. it's lack of enforcement that's the problem.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There's your solution, right in the line you quoted. More moderators means more offenders being caught, more ToS enforcement, and a stronger infraction system.

    If Cryptic has still any modicum of sense left in them, they won't send in the squad to lock threads, but rather start taking a very long, and hard look at themselves, at the carnage they caused, and what greed has done to their game.
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  • rswfiredotcomrswfiredotcom Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Personally, I've never understood why these threads aren't allowed. This is a person's last grievance with the game, and they still care enough to tell the company why. I left one of these three years ago. For me, it was a form of closure. I moved on and barely gave this game any thought at all during all of that time. It might not be appropriate for GD, but there could be a forum for these kinds of posts. We have a forum on our website and I created one specifically for people to say goodbye if they decided to leave (and they didn't always leave happy).
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    If Cryptic has still any modicum of sense left in them, they won't send in the squad to lock threads, but rather start taking a very long, and hard look at themselves, at the carnage they caused, and what greed has done to their game.
    it's not carnage. it's the same 50 people making all the noise in all the threads. a very small group of haters who just can't bring themselves to leave the game and get on with thier lives have turned this forum upside down. yesterday i looked up one of those hater's accounts. he had over 800 posts in 2 months. this isn't about cryptic. this is nothing more then a small group of forum terrorists trying to make everyone feel as miserable as they do. and if you dont' feel as miserable as them you're either an apologist or a fanboy in their eyes and become their prey.
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited October 2014
    I quit threads are in my opinion perfectly cool if the poster isn't breaking any other rules or in general acting in an abusive way.


    I think Cryptic should listen to the complaints.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The real reason I Quit threads aren't allowed, is because they want to smother evidence that players have been dissatisfied out of the game.

    They should actually encourage people to list reasons for leaving so they can try to address them for the future, but then we all know that won't happen. Everything must be peachy.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The thing is, if someone gets as far as even debating an "I Quit" thread the business whose service they are quitting has already failed.

    It is basic management - customers should be kept happy. Even on a forum, biased in favour of those with issues inherently, should be a roughly 30:70 split between unhappy/happy.

    But when a thread asking "Would you recommend STO to a friend?" has responses completely, overwhelmingly negative, the forums are ablaze with people having problems, and people are leaving in droves, questions need to be asked about why is stuff like this, and what can be done to solve it.


    Not just flaming those who are leaving, or borderline leaving, and calling them terrorists.
  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    it's not carnage. it's the same 50 people making all the noise in all the threads. a very small group of haters who just can't bring themselves to leave the game and get on with thier lives have turned this forum upside down. yesterday i looked up one of those hater's accounts. he had over 800 posts in 2 months. this isn't about cryptic. this is nothing more then a small group of forum terrorists trying to make everyone feel as miserable as they do. and if you dont' feel as miserable as them you're either an apologist or a fanboy in their eyes and become their prey.

    Forum Terrorists!!!???

    wow, dude in this thread was just saying "i'm outta here."

    I don't play anymore hardly, but I'm definitely addicted to this forum.
    Amazing reading every day. I logged in for the new content and got stuck after
    doing Neelix's shopping list and couldn't be bothered to go grind some more. Prior to that
    I played the last Crystalline Catastrophe event but that is really all since Feb/March 2014.
    As the posters get whittled away here on the forums the concentration of sycophants is
    increasing and I am ever more compelled to guffaw.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You'll be missed in the ban threads :(

    I know EVE Online is great for PvP action. I hear World of Tanks is jolly good fun. I read EverQuest is still breathing :eek: Do people still play WoW?
  • mvp333mvp333 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    it's not carnage. it's the same 50 people making all the noise in all the threads. a very small group of haters who just can't bring themselves to leave the game and get on with thier lives have turned this forum upside down. yesterday i looked up one of those hater's accounts. he had over 800 posts in 2 months. this isn't about cryptic. this is nothing more then a small group of forum terrorists trying to make everyone feel as miserable as they do. and if you dont' feel as miserable as them you're either an apologist or a fanboy in their eyes and become their prey.

    Misguided or not, they/we are't "forum terrorists," I don't think, though I do agree that there are some people who are overly harsh and too quick to brand people as something or other for having opposing viewpoints. In fact, I doubt that they want to "make everyone feel as miserable as they do," they want Cryptic and PWE to fix some issues so that nobody has to feel miserable.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Your opinion doesn't matter, nor does mine. Only Cryptic's/PWE's opinion matters. It's their forum not ours. They get to make the rules.

    If you have not noticed , both their rules and their forum Mods change the interpretation of the rules to fit the situation as they please .

    At this point it's not even safe to say that the rules say X today . :cool:
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    cbrjwrr wrote: »
    But when a thread asking "Would you recommend STO to a friend?" has responses completely, overwhelmingly negative, the forums are ablaze with people having problems, and people are leaving in droves, questions need to be asked about why is stuff like this, and what can be done to solve it.
    from a casual glance it can seem like a lot. but then take into account that the thread only has 200 posts in it. then take into account how many of those 200 posts are from a limited number of posters who posted multiple times in that thread. i know one poster who has 6 posts in that thread. but even if it were 200 individuals rather then probably closer to 80 people when you actually count the posts up, what percentage of the overall players is 200 people? if there's 20k people playing sto it's 1%. if there's 100k people playing sto it's 0.02%.

    this notion that lots of noise means lots of the fanbase is just false.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    :eek:

    Wow... just wow.
    how many times have you been followed around the forum by certain posters and had them attack everything you've posted? these people have singular agendas whether you like the term i used or not.
  • rswfiredotcomrswfiredotcom Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    from a casual glance it can seem like a lot. but then take into account that the thread only has 200 posts in it. then take into account how many of those 200 posts are from a limited number of posters who posted multiple times in that thread. i know one poster who has 6 posts in that thread. but even if it were 200 individuals rather then probably closer to 80 people when you actually count the posts up, what percentage of the overall players is 200 people? if there's 20k people playing sto it's 1%. if there's 100k people playing sto it's 0.02%.

    this notion that lots of noise means lots of the fanbase is just false.

    You should probably study up on sociology a bit.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You should probably study up on sociology a bit.
    the notion that gaming forums speak for the whole player base has been disproved on numerous gaming sites over the years. in fact it's the fringe players who spend most of their time on forums, not the majority.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    the notion that gaming forums speak for the whole player base has been disproved on numerous gaming sites over the years. in fact it's the fringe players who spend most of their time on forums, not the majority.

    This....I've seen many posts saying the majority is angry or the majority is ready to quit. I don't think any forum goer knows what the majority of the game players thinks.
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  • rswfiredotcomrswfiredotcom Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    the notion that gaming forums speak for the whole player base has been disproved on numerous gaming sites over the years. in fact it's the fringe players who spend most of their time on forums, not the majority.

    I don't think they do speak for the whole player base. I do think that people have a myriad of opinions and that what one person says there are another hundred who think the same thing and say nothing. Not everyone on this forum is complaining, but enough are that it shouldn't be discounted as inconsequential, which is what you seem to be implying. Taken further, it's a bit callous in my humble opinion to act as if their feelings and thoughts are not at least worthy of a modicum of respect. They are people, just like you. I'll extend you the courtesy of respecting your point of view, how about you do the same for others?

    Also, out of genuine intellectual curiosity, I would love to see some proof of your claim.
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