How many more times does it have to be said, the forums are only a small part of the player base.
This is pointless and people are still spending money, so enjoy you protest - wave your virtual placards.
See you back in game, next week? Week after?
Using the official forums also shows support for the game, when people hold real life protests, they don't do it in the place they are spouting off against. By posting here, you show you are still supporting the game and will be back in it at some point - so your temper tantrum really means nothing.
You stopped buying stuff back when Cryptic refused to make you know who remove that phony quote he put your name to in his sig.
stop you dont live with me to know what i spend my money on last time i gave cryptic money was for the scimitar 3 pack tyvm and for the sig all that show is the professionalism by the owners of this and to be frank 2 can play at that game but im more of a adult then the one you hold in high esteem
How many more times does it have to be said, the forums are only a small part of the player base.
This is pointless and people are still spending money, so enjoy you protest - wave your virtual placards.
See you back in game, next week? Week after?
Using the official forums also shows support for the game, when people hold real life protests, they don't do it in the place they are spouting off against. By posting here, you show you are still supporting the game and will be back in it at some point - so your temper tantrum really means nothing.
Hmm, if only we had a working Customer Support that could, you know, take bug reports, complaints, etc. And by 'take', of course, I mean something else than just >/dev/null-ing them.
Far from boycotting, I just bought the Delta Rising Operations Pack. I didn't buy into the irrationality and hysteria before the explanation and I'm still not buying into them.
Are there issues with DR remaining which need to be fixed? Sure, and I would not be surprised if the difficulty is decreased once it is seen for what it is. But some of you now complaining about it were the same people who used to insist that the game was too easy. I would like to hope that you would learn to be careful what you ask for, but past experience makes me doubt that.
D'Angelo's post was perfectly logical, but some of you are not.
How many more times does it have to be said, the forums are only a small part of the player base.
This is pointless and people are still spending money, so enjoy you protest - wave your virtual placards.
See you back in game, next week? Week after?
Using the official forums also shows support for the game, when people hold real life protests, they don't do it in the place they are spouting off against. By posting here, you show you are still supporting the game and will be back in it at some point - so your temper tantrum really means nothing.
And rough representation of overal playerbase's attitudes.
Oh yes, the game is brooming with new T6 ships for example.
You wish.
Heads I win, tails you lose - if I am on the forums I support the game, kudos for your logic.
Since it means nothing why are you here, to enlighten us maybe? Thanks, not needed, go play the game.
stop you dont live with me to know what i spend my money on last time i gave cryptic money was for the scimitar 3 pack tyvm and for the sig all that show is the professionalism by the owners of this and to be frank 2 can play at that game but im more of a adult then the one you hold in high esteem
the scimitar came out in july of last year. if you're saying you haven't spent any money on the game in 15 months i don't think you have much to stand on as far as cryptic caring about anything you have to say on the forum. to them your vote stopped counting a year ago.
the sad truth is this forum is full of people who currently contribute nothing to cryptic's bottom line but act like they're the most important customers cryptic has.
the scimitar came out in july of last year. if you're saying you haven't spent any money on the game in 15 months i don't think you have much to stand on as far as cryptic caring about anything you have to say on the forum. to them your vote stopped counting a year ago.
the sad truth is this forum is full of people who currently contribute nothing to cryptic's bottom line but act like they're the most important customers cryptic has.
We are actually enticing good little peons to spend more so we are useful to Cryptic, out of spite you will spend more than you would otherwise.
I get my say, Cryptic gets money and you get an empty wallet and sense of inflated self importance.
the scimitar came out in july of last year. if you're saying you haven't spent any money on the game in 15 months i don't think you have much to stand on as far as cryptic caring about anything you have to say on the forum. to them your vote stopped counting a year ago.
the sad truth is this forum is full of people who currently contribute nothing to cryptic's bottom line but act like they're the most important customers cryptic has.
well im 2 months off big Whoopi point is ive not spent money on this game in a long time considering i got the 124$ LOR pack was putting in 80$ for new lock box ships ya im a small fish in a big ocean that's drying up
There you have it folks, that's the kind of person you're dealing with. :rolleyes:
And he tells people to act like adults. The hypocrisy lol. :P
Anyways readers, ignore poster above, nothing to see there. You've been warned.
you've been following me around the forum posting the same message every time i post something. for whatever reason you just can't accept someone has a different view then your own. so if you're gonna act like a child i'm gonna treat you like a child.
the sad truth is this forum is full of people who currently contribute nothing to cryptic's bottom line but act like they're the most important customers cryptic has.
The sad truth is, that you simply misunderstand. No one thinks "they're the most important customers cryptic has." That is all in your own head. People, however, do the *only* thing any one single customer can really accomplish in protest: close their wallets.
Before You guys call boycott you should research successful boycotts and unsuccessful ones. As of right now you've called for a boycott...with no clear goals and without knowing if the minority or majority feel as you do.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Can we at least please keep this civil or it will be yet another closed thread.
Obviously there will be those who disagree with what I have wrote and some will agree to an extent.
We all know cryptic go by metrics and only pay attention to them. By players taking a stand in a certain way over a change that isn't popular we can skew those metrics and make them take note.
As official two-way communication between players and devs has broken down perhaps this is the only way players that aren't happy about this can make themselves heard.
Boycotting is interpretive and can be what you want it to be be it not playing the game to not spending money or not playing pve queues, it will all have an effect on said metrics if the majority of people aren't happy about something.
I am playing their game....with my wallet closed now. (...)
Already with you on this. Same here. No more monies spent on STO for Zen. But will also play far less than before.
I'm backing this statement with actions. I reallocated a couple of big bills towards something else; Cryptic/PWE is not receiving those monies. And I'm not logging in as frequently as before.
Truly sad, given I'm an LTS member, bought LoR, DR and make purchases in support of the game developers and development.
Boycotting is interpretive and can be what you want it to be be it not playing the game to not spending money or not playing pve queues, it will all have an effect on said metrics if the majority of people aren't happy about something.
Sorry but this is incorrect. A boycott can't be interpretive. It has to be a hard line in the sand. We will no longer play the game. Anything less is a waste of energy. If you play with a wallet closed what makes you any different from someone playing with no access to money to spend on the game...or the company can interpret it as...the Holidays are coming and people don't spend as much because they are saving for gifts.
If you truly want to boycott then the time for half measures is over. Do it right or don't do it at all. Any person that still plays is still a potential "$" to the company.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
I stopped spending money on this game shortly after PWE bought the game. But my reason may be a bit more sinister. My bank wouldn't authorize any transaction to PWE. I called them and asked why, and they said it was because they have been put on my bank's "bad list," so to speak. I couldn't get a straight answer or a completed transaction, and it made me think.
We all know Chinese profit-based websites are SERIOUSLY shady. I always thought it was limited to dating sites, mail-order brides, and sex industry related schemes. It would appear that PWE has somehow gotten themselves into the same category. I don't know the details, but after seeing how they work and how VASTLY this game has changed...well, it actually makes some sense.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
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This is pointless and people are still spending money, so enjoy you protest - wave your virtual placards.
See you back in game, next week? Week after?
Using the official forums also shows support for the game, when people hold real life protests, they don't do it in the place they are spouting off against. By posting here, you show you are still supporting the game and will be back in it at some point - so your temper tantrum really means nothing.
As per the Holy Oracle:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=20209451&postcount=68
Methinks the numbers will remain steady or increasing for foreseable future by Company policy, whoever claims otherwise will be labeled as a troll.
stop you dont live with me to know what i spend my money on last time i gave cryptic money was for the scimitar 3 pack tyvm and for the sig all that show is the professionalism by the owners of this
ps but i am starting to think you are stalking me
system Lord Baal is dead
Hmm, if only we had a working Customer Support that could, you know, take bug reports, complaints, etc. And by 'take', of course, I mean something else than just >/dev/null-ing them.
Are there issues with DR remaining which need to be fixed? Sure, and I would not be surprised if the difficulty is decreased once it is seen for what it is. But some of you now complaining about it were the same people who used to insist that the game was too easy. I would like to hope that you would learn to be careful what you ask for, but past experience makes me doubt that.
D'Angelo's post was perfectly logical, but some of you are not.
And rough representation of overal playerbase's attitudes.
Oh yes, the game is brooming with new T6 ships for example.
You wish.
Heads I win, tails you lose - if I am on the forums I support the game, kudos for your logic.
Since it means nothing why are you here, to enlighten us maybe? Thanks, not needed, go play the game.
the sad truth is this forum is full of people who currently contribute nothing to cryptic's bottom line but act like they're the most important customers cryptic has.
We are actually enticing good little peons to spend more so we are useful to Cryptic, out of spite you will spend more than you would otherwise.
I get my say, Cryptic gets money and you get an empty wallet and sense of inflated self importance.
Works for me.
well im 2 months off big Whoopi point is ive not spent money on this game in a long time considering i got the 124$ LOR pack was putting in 80$ for new lock box ships ya im a small fish in a big ocean that's drying up
system Lord Baal is dead
The sad truth is, that you simply misunderstand. No one thinks "they're the most important customers cryptic has." That is all in your own head. People, however, do the *only* thing any one single customer can really accomplish in protest: close their wallets.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Can we at least please keep this civil or it will be yet another closed thread.
Obviously there will be those who disagree with what I have wrote and some will agree to an extent.
We all know cryptic go by metrics and only pay attention to them. By players taking a stand in a certain way over a change that isn't popular we can skew those metrics and make them take note.
As official two-way communication between players and devs has broken down perhaps this is the only way players that aren't happy about this can make themselves heard.
Boycotting is interpretive and can be what you want it to be be it not playing the game to not spending money or not playing pve queues, it will all have an effect on said metrics if the majority of people aren't happy about something.
Rather amusing, I would expect that freindly and supportive Cryptic fan like him would be in game enjoying it and not snipe at the forums.
Anyways boycott is a broad term, I am done paying and (probably playing) and am looking for likeminded individuals.
I'm backing this statement with actions. I reallocated a couple of big bills towards something else; Cryptic/PWE is not receiving those monies. And I'm not logging in as frequently as before.
Truly sad, given I'm an LTS member, bought LoR, DR and make purchases in support of the game developers and development.
Changes are needed by Cryptic/PWE. NOW.
I'll take your unbound stuff if you stop playing.
It will just keep sitting in my inventory, including 3 lockbox ships
Buy it, you moocher.
Sorry but this is incorrect. A boycott can't be interpretive. It has to be a hard line in the sand. We will no longer play the game. Anything less is a waste of energy. If you play with a wallet closed what makes you any different from someone playing with no access to money to spend on the game...or the company can interpret it as...the Holidays are coming and people don't spend as much because they are saving for gifts.
If you truly want to boycott then the time for half measures is over. Do it right or don't do it at all. Any person that still plays is still a potential "$" to the company.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Only 3? I have more lockbox ships than that. :P
Emo much?
Are there girlcotts too ?
I stopped spending money on this game shortly after PWE bought the game. But my reason may be a bit more sinister. My bank wouldn't authorize any transaction to PWE. I called them and asked why, and they said it was because they have been put on my bank's "bad list," so to speak. I couldn't get a straight answer or a completed transaction, and it made me think.
We all know Chinese profit-based websites are SERIOUSLY shady. I always thought it was limited to dating sites, mail-order brides, and sex industry related schemes. It would appear that PWE has somehow gotten themselves into the same category. I don't know the details, but after seeing how they work and how VASTLY this game has changed...well, it actually makes some sense.