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Why is it so hard to believe that a group of players that could complete the old pre-DR ISE in a minute could plow through elite DR patrols in mere minutes?
Check my signature below, my character Jena is the highest DPSing non-romulan toon in the game. I can push out 15x to 17x more damage than your average player.
My friends and I in the DPS league do so much damage together that we completely wiped the floor with your pride and joy "Elite" difficulty Battle of Korfez. We made it seem so easy that it could have been mistaken for an Normal difficulty queue. We ploughed it so hard that your developers where impressed, started calling us "Wizards" on the P1 podcast interview, and wanted to get in contact with us to find out how we did it.
We are so good at this game that we could literally take all our weapons off our ships except 1 and still out perform your average player. We are that good.
Our performance numbers are so astronomically higher than your average STO player, why would you not think our leveling efficiency would also be astronically higher?
Do you honestly think that if you put 4 or 5 50k, 60k, 70k, 80k DPS players together in a team that we would toddle along leveling at the same speed as your average 3k DPS player?
I believe that you and/or some of your devs should have a sit down with some of us in the DPS league so we can teach you how to properly play this game.
Check my signature below, my character Jena is the highest DPSing non-romulan toon in the game. I can push out 15x to 17x more damage than your average player.
My friends and I in the DPS league do so much damage together that we completely wiped the floor with your pride and joy "Elite" difficulty Battle of Korfez. We made it seem so easy that it could have been mistaken for an Normal difficulty queue. We ploughed it so hard that your developers where impressed, started calling us "Wizards" on the P1 podcast interview, and wanted to get in contact with us to find out how we did it.
We are so good at this game that we could literally take all our weapons off our ships except 1 and still out perform your average player. We are that good.
Our performance numbers are so astronomically higher than your average STO player, why would you not think our leveling efficiency would also be astronically higher?
Do you honestly think that if you put 4 or 5 50k, 60k, 70k, 80k DPS players together in a team that we would toddle along leveling at the same speed as your average 3k DPS player?
I believe that you and/or some of your devs should have a sit down with some of us in the DPS league so we can teach you how to properly play this game.
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I would love to see this happen.
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I totally feel sorry for the devs, trendy and askray, they are going to have their hands full.
Smirk is not a dev...he's a community manager.
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What's the apology ? : "TRIBBLE you, you're exploiting" ?
Way too generous. 2-4k tops.
If we go and do an ISA in 3-4m, and it takes the average team significantly longer, are we exploiting?
Should those that can 2 man or solo content be banned for exploiting? Due to being able to do so much more than a single player?
All that EP post showed me is that they consider skill an exploit.
Then you must of been reading every other word. Is he a bit smug? Sure. But hes making a point that I agree with.
Im by no means a min/maxer. My build is quite stable but I doubt Ill ever get it to the DPS levels the OP has gotten to and his friends as well.
What takes me 5-10 minutes to get through is going to take him 1-2 minutes probably even less. Which means hes going to level a hell of a lot faster then me. All it takes is simple math to figure out that when D'Angelo is talking 17x the normal rate. He was talking about High DPS builds that sweep everything aside like it was paper.
Players have had 4+ years to really learn this game and its mechanics. Its not a surprise that these Endgame Level 50/T5 Ships with their 30k+ Builds would explode as they leveled to Level 60.
lol wrecked! :cool:
Again OP, how about we head to Cali, wait for their office to open and you can all hang em from a tree. Will that satisfy you?!? How much more do you want? Really.. gtfu.
This post bohemently needs to be closed. Face it, you don't like anything unless it's YOUR way, well sorry sunshine, YOU don't own the game and neither do we... learn some acceptance and have some tact... without this game you wouldn't be here. :rolleyes:
The DPS league guys and girls put more time and money into this game than most casual players can even acknowledge, so it's pretty obvious they'll be better and quicker at clearing content.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Actually, it reiterates the very relevant point that D'Angelo's post is rather vague in regards to the justification of punishing only a select lot of players. He trots out some 17x number and claims players "were gaining levels at unreasonable rates." Unless they are willing to share some of these arcane "data pulls" to which they are privy, in order to show that these were just people who were playing the same maps as people who they didn't punish for that much longer, then people may have been punished for quite literally doing damage too fast.
maybe you should start making a good build? sounds like you are jealous.
Same. In STO. >.>
I always find it laughable when people in PvE games think they are the hottest thing in town.
Truly, it's laughable.
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Far from it.... how's that grinding going again?
Yeah...
I wish the developers of my formerly favorite game could once in a while not blame others for their mistakes. How dare you take away the hard work of others because of a mistake that you made, then say to your community that what they did was wrong and they should have known better? Were we punished because we played your game and we did it a little too well?
As has been stated time and time again the "exploit" was identified during testing. I guess though that doesn't mean much - every new STO release is nigh unplayable due to the bugs. Why bug test if you aren't gonna read the reports? Cryptic, this is your own fault. Own up.
To all the snarky suck-ups: We spent real time and effort leveling our characters. We did it in a way that was possible. If you want to call it an exploit then fine, but to continue to support a game that stifles creativity and punishes ingenuity, is not only wrong but it's irresponsible.
I fully support your statement sarcasmdetector. If the devs could/would actually sit down with us they might learn a little something about how to play their game. Too bad I wont be there to witness it if it ever happens. I'm taking my time and my money to games that actually value hard work and devotion.
Cryptic, your latest effort to demonize others for your own mistakes has cost you credibility and the support of some of your most die-hard clients. No amount of free lobi is going to restore the trust that you have lost.
Funny thing is, sunshine. The only people in this thread making a ruckus and attempting to get it shutdown. Is people like you. Im sure youre running off to PM Askray as we speak and telling him how bad we're all being without him and his overlords this weekend.
While i dont think this player is meaning to sound high and mighty that is the way it comes across to me the first time i read the OP's post.
what's the difference between ego, arrogance and pride?
Oh wow, you have so much dps. So pro.:rolleyes:
What's the difference between an Elite and Elitist?
Any moderately aware player knew elite difficulty gave the best exp if you had the dps for it. Finding out if you had the dps for it took what, twenty minutes? I, as a player, have no way of knowing if that level of exp was intended or not since the last time I used anything other than doffs to level was nearly a year ago.
To the OP: The entire situation shows nothing beyond ignorance and incompetence from the cryptic decision makers. At the same time do you ever expect anything else? How insane is it that if you decided to afk a bit more while in still logged in that likely would have pushed your average exp gain per time unit down low enough you wouldn't have gotten punished? That if other players wouldn't have stayed afk while logged in (like I am right now) or known how to break that scary 4k DPS barrier the average would have been high enough you wouldn't have gotten punished? Heh, it's like you joined a terrible pick up group and got screwed without even joining a queue in a way. On the plus side their metrics must be pretty terrible to be running a surprise lobi event during a purple rock event the week after an expansion release. That and getting the second posts from the EP to the forums.
Well IMO a lot.
This is how i us the words, this is not an actual defintion, but the way i take meaning of the words in the most common use today.
Ego=Being good and having to let everyone else know because they have to put themselves first.
Arrogance=being good and not always being able to back it up
Pride= They dont have to gloat they let the numbers do the talking and let other people prop them up, they dont have to because they know.