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captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,630 Arc User
Hi Dev team!

Say, any chance we'll see the much wanted <title> tag replace the <rank> tag in NPC dialogs when addressing us in Expansion 2?

(Because, you know, ranks are included in the title selections too and it gives us the ability to be called what we want to be called in-game :))

Thanks!
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  • ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Hi Dev team!

    Say, any chance we'll see the much wanted <title> tag replace the <rank> tag in NPC dialogs when addressing us in Expansion 2?

    (Because, you know, ranks are included in the title selections too and it gives us the ability to be called what we want to be called in-game :))

    Thanks!

    There should be an option to choose if an NPC adresses you as "rank" or "title", because i don't want to be called "M.A.C.O. Elite Commander TRIBBLE" all the time ;) (Or whatever other title that wouldn't make sense)
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    'Hello Annihilated'.

    Would be fun for the titles that make sense thought :)
  • gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    "hello torpedo target!"
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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited August 2014
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    ltdata96 wrote: »
    There should be an option to choose if an NPC adresses you as "rank" or "title", because i don't want to be called "M.A.C.O. Elite Commander TRIBBLE" all the time ;) (Or whatever other title that wouldn't make sense)

    Agreed. Frankly My character is a Captain, because he refused the promotion to Admiral. Even in my fleet it's Rear Admiral Lower Half. Sir will do in a pinch, but I prefer Captain.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Certain titles and all Ranks should be included. Master Chef and Federation Ambassador are perfectly acceptable titles for npcs to call your captain, but Moist is completely unacceptable.
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,630 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think the point many are missing here with titles is that YOU chose what the NPCs call you - and ONLY you will see it. If you chose to be called 'Torpedo Target' (or Moist, or Annihilated, or...)well more power to you - as only YOU will ever see it in the dialog box.

    It's YOUR choice.

    Don't want to be called "MACO Specialist"? Don't chose that - chose a rank, or anything else, instead.

    Being addressed as Vice Admiral, by every NPC in the game, regardless of the clothes you are wearing (civilian, mercenary, swimwear, Bajoran militia, etc.) or the rank you display if in uniform (like commander), is no choice at all.

    So a <title> tag with its many choices (including ranks!) would be much better that the current locked in <rank> tag.

    To put it another way - what if there were only one clothing option in the game? What if you HAD to wear a pre-chosen full Starfleet (or Klingon or Romulan) uniform and ONLY that uniform with no other choice in the game? It's the same as the current <rank> only tag.

    See what I'm talking about here? :)
  • thecegorachthecegorach Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    For what little it's worth, I think it's a great suggestion, and would love to see it happen.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Only on the condition we get the title Commodore.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Only on the condition we get the title Commodore.

    No point in offering a decomissioned rank.

    Anyways, I'd love to be adressed as "Genius Storbank".
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    No point in offering a decomissioned rank.

    Anyways, I'd love to be adressed as "Genius Storbank".

    Right, because being referred to as a rank (that there is no evidence for it's removal) is better than 'Moist' right?
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Right, because being referred to as a rank (that there is no evidence for it's removal) is better than 'Moist' right?

    Well the fact that the rank hasn't been seen, mentioned or indicated since TMP era, is pretty solid evidence... I know people like to ignore facts when it suits them, but it's really just a cheap laugh for the rest of us.

    And yes... Moist is a much better title than Commodore... At least "Moist" is still a concept.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Well the fact that the rank hasn't been seen, mentioned or indicated since TMP era, is pretty solid evidence... I know people like to ignore facts when it suits them, but it's really just a cheap laugh for the rest of us.

    And yes... Moist is a much better title than Commodore... At least "Moist" is still a concept.

    Um what? There are precisely two RA LHs post TOS, they are referred to solely as Admiral, could be anything from costuming errors to an error. Or is O'Brian still a Lieutenant?
    Starfleet is not the US Navy and there is no reason for them to just rename a rank.

    And not 'Moist' is a stupid title, unless you're trolling.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • wanderintxwanderintx Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    "Hello Stunning."

    Yes. I could see that having appeal for my ego. Too bad there's not a way to earn the title "Sweetie".

    That being said, I tend to wear my captain pips and would prefer that to being called admiral. I'd like it to be an option.
  • inkrunnerinkrunner Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Hello punching bag.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    wanderintx wrote: »
    "Hello Stunning."

    Yes. I could see that having appeal for my ego. Too bad there's not a way to earn the title "Sweetie".

    That being said, I tend to wear my captain pips and would prefer that to being called admiral. I'd like it to be an option.

    Well.. you know, once we get the candy land, you may just get your wish.
    inkrunner wrote: »
    Hello punching bag.

    LOVE this one...
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  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Only if theres an option to specify which set of salutations we can choose from. I am just fine being called Admiral. I have no desire whatsoever, to be addressed by the majority of the titles that I have available through accolades.

    I do see how it might be fun for a brief time or how someone really immersed in their RP might like it. As long as the rest that don't, aren't forced to. I'm cool with it.
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,630 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    corelogik wrote: »
    Only if theres an option to specify which set of salutations we can choose from. I am just fine being called Admiral. I have no desire whatsoever, to be addressed by the majority of the titles that I have available through accolades.

    I do see how it might be fun for a brief time or how someone really immersed in their RP might like it. As long as the rest that don't, aren't forced to. I'm cool with it.

    The only thing you would be 'forced' to do is chose something from the list of titles you have earned - which includes all the ranks - so if you want to be called Vice Admiral still, it's there! :)
  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I don't see how there's problem for other people if someone were to choose one of the sillier titles for themselves. I don't think other players see what NPCs call you in the dialogue boxes anyway, so one player's choice has literally no effect on any other players.
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  • maxgiovannimaxgiovanni Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    YES!

    Please include this option in the game!

    If some players want to have NPC's refer to them by Moist or Punching Bag, so what? Nobody else can read their mission text. But I wear Captain's pips and use the Captain title because Flag Officers fly desks, not ships! I hate it when I'm refered to as Vice Admiral Giovanni when I've never use either the title or pips for that station, because I want my character to be a CAPTAIN, not a desk-jockey!

    So please, let us start using titles, so we can be Moist Johnson, Punching Bag Decker, and yes, CAPTAIN Maxamillian Ulysses Giovanni!
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,418 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    Hello Polaron Emitter

    Hello Spider's Bane

    Hello Shaka, when the walls fell

    Hello Crash Test Tribble

    Hello Steam Powered

    The list goes on... :D
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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I don't know that there's anything in place to refer to a player by title. Accolades and titles are mostly just cosmetic tags slapped onto the UI for your own & other players benefits.

    What I have seen, is if I take any character, regardless of name, and set the 'First' and 'Last' names in their profile, then NPCs in missions will refer to me by the name I put in the profle, not by my characters handle.

    So titles not so much, but if you're deadset on being called Moist by all the NPCs, you can hop into your character details and set the First/Last name to 'Moist' to the same effect.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,418 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    The problem people will point out on that solution is they're still being referred to by their character's rank. So you'd have Vice Admiral Polaron Emitter Doe. They'd rather see Polaron Emitter John/Jane Doe.
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  • ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Hi Dev team!

    Say, any chance we'll see the much wanted <title> tag replace the <rank> tag in NPC dialogs when addressing us in Expansion 2?

    (Because, you know, ranks are included in the title selections too and it gives us the ability to be called what we want to be called in-game :))

    Thanks!

    ^ This Please!!!

    And please add "Commodore" and "Fleet Captain" to the title list, unlocked upon hitting Rear Admiral, Lower Half. (Both are canonical, and should be offered as options to the players, if they want them.)


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  • ralphgraphiteralphgraphite Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'd support this change. It would be a quality of life improvement to some (including myself) - and if implemented with a toggle, no difference to others.

    The only gotcha with it is potentially implementation. It would probably all depend how those mission texts are generated - if it's just one variable to change, or if something crazy is going on in their code that would prevent it. I wouldn't want to miss out on our story content to implement this.
  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    And for a moment, when I read the thread title, I was all cheered up. Hell yes, they finally... awww... just a suggestion again. :(

    Crypic won't do it because it too tedious & boring work to fix. Also Geko appears to be a fan of away team in space so expect the gameplay according to the rank you don't want also be forced down your throat if you want to continue playing & be competetive at it. *sigh*
  • sovereign256sovereign256 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Hello Punching Bag.
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,630 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Hello Polaron Emitter

    Hello Spider's Bane

    Hello Shaka, when the walls fell

    Hello Crash Test Tribble

    Hello Steam Powered

    The list goes on... :D
    Hello Punching Bag.

    Let's not forget:

    Hello Advocate

    Hello Agent

    Hello Ambassador

    Hello Attache

    Hello Chief Engineer (and Chief Science Officer, and Chief Medical Officer)

    Hello Consul

    Hello Detective

    Hello Doctor

    Hello Envoy

    Hello Lieutenant (and EVERY other rank)

    Hello MACO Team Specialist

    Hello Omega Force Veteran

    Hello Scientist

    Hello Technician

    Hello Temporal Ambassador

    ...just to pull a few off the list.

    Remember - YOU chose what NPCs address you as - it isn't random. I think having the above choices (yes, even Moist, for those crazy enough to pick it) is a VAST improvement over, 'Hello Vice Admiral' ad nauseum, regardless of the clothes I wear or my character's backstory.
  • speedofheatspeedofheat Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I definitely support this option!
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