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Season 9 Dev Blog #30: Odyssey Uniforms

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  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    zulisvel wrote: »
    I may disagree with the other changes coming to the game with Season 9.5, but making the Oddy and Bort uniforms free to all players AND adding in the missing pieces AND new fleet uniforms that are free to those who purchased the old ones AND giving us the color codes? So. Much. Win.

    I agree :) Thanks Cryptic !
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  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Season 9.5 really is 'The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly' for me. The new uniforms are great, and easily the thing I'm most excited about! The total removal of Exploration is really bad for any game baring the name 'Star Trek'. The revamped crafting system, while still being tweaked, features a dilithium cost with the potential not getting the item you actually want - that's pretty ugly to me.
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The Odyssey dress uniform looks AWESOME - very glad at this stage that I bought the basic from the Fleet tailor a while back.

    The Quinn veteran reward will be nice to have too - I'm thinking in the right colour scheme it would work for a good approximation of the AGT-version Riker Admiral uniform, which is another I've always liked.
  • alan1701halan1701h Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Thomas has done it again!

    Colour guides for the Odyssey medical uniforms, the Odyssey enlisted dress uniforms, the Odyssey enlisted tactical uniforms, and Odyssey admiral uniforms are now available
    here, here, here, and here.

    Can't wait to put these guides in to practice!!! Can't it be Thursday now?!?!
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Uniform changes for DOFFs without having to visit tailor please. D=
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Uniform changes for DOFFs without having to visit tailor please. D=

    +1 from me.

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  • kazabokkazabok Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Uniform changes for DOFFs without having to visit tailor please. D=

    This would be awesome. BOFF cotume slots.
  • blinn1blinn1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So the Odyssey uniform has a Dress, Duty and Tactical version.

    The Dress uniform is obviously for ceremonies and other special occasions, but what's the difference between the Duty uniform and the Tactical uniform? Is the Duty uniform worn on starships and starbases while the Tactical uniform worn on away missions?

    Also, my Starfleet character was just recently promoted to Rear Admiral, Lower Half, yet he's only less than halfway through the entire Federation storyline. If he'll still be flying around in a starship like before, should he still wear the Captain's Duty uniiform or should he instead wear the Rear Admiral Duty uniform (if the latter and if all of his bridge officers are then promoted to Captain, should they wear the Starship Captain's Duty uniform or the Starfleet Officer Duty uniform?)?

    And lastly, is a Flag Officer just another title for Admiral or is that a completely different position?

    Sorry about all the questions, but I want to get the conversion to the Odyssey uniforms just right. :)
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Your crew stalls out at Commander, so no problem with those uniforms.

    It's the call of the ship's CO whether he/she/it prefers to go by "Captain" or "Admiral" (my Ferengi, Grunt, bypasses this by having hs crew call him "Skipper", which is the technically correct term for a ship's captain with a rank other than Captain - a charming Terran custom relayed to him by his comms officer, Cmdr. Ruben Manalang).

    Also, Starfleet regs permit each ship to have its own uniform standard, so again it's your call whether you prefer to wear the Admiral or Captain variant of the uniform.
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  • blinn1blinn1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Your crew stalls out at Commander, so no problem with those uniforms.
    That's good to know. Saves on a lot of headaches and confusion. :)
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's the call of the ship's CO whether he/she/it prefers to go by "Captain" or "Admiral" (my Ferengi, Grunt, bypasses this by having hs crew call him "Skipper", which is the technically correct term for a ship's captain with a rank other than Captain - a charming Terran custom relayed to him by his comms officer, Cmdr. Ruben Manalang).
    There's a way to change in-game what your crew calls you?

    jonsills wrote: »
    Also, Starfleet regs permit each ship to have its own uniform standard, so again it's your call whether you prefer to wear the Admiral or Captain variant of the uniform.
    Sounds good, though in Star Trek canon would it be out of the ordinary for (for example) my character to wear the Starship Captain Duty uniform while wearing the Rear Admiral, Lower Half rank pips or would/should that be considered too "beneath" a Rear Admiiral?


    Also, is the Duty uniform pretty much considered the all-purpose, day-to-day uniform worn by everyone in pretty much all situations or is the Tactical uniform what they really should be wearing on away missions?
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    blinn1 wrote: »
    There's a way to change in-game what your crew calls you?
    I think you can have them call you by a chosen title, although "Skipper" isn't among them - that's entirely in my imagination, which can be a pretty interesting place sometimes.
    Sounds good, though in Star Trek canon would it be out of the ordinary for (for example) my character to wear the Starship Captain Duty uniform while wearing the Rear Admiral, Lower Half rank pips or would/should that be considered too "beneath" a Rear Admiral?
    That's hard to say, because the only times we saw characters of that rank in canon to the best of my knowledge, they were in TOS, and were still called "Commodores". That being said, Commodore Matt Decker, commander of the USS Constellation, the Constitution-class cruiser that ran afould of the abandoned planet killer in "The Doomsday Weapon", certainly saw nothing wrong with wearing the uniform of a captain, with the rank insignia of a commodore. The same was true of the other commodore we saw, whose name escapes me, but who was as I recall in command of a space station somewhere.
    Also, is the Duty uniform pretty much considered the all-purpose, day-to-day uniform worn by everyone in pretty much all situations or is the Tactical uniform what they really should be wearing on away missions?
    In the modern military, the duty uniform is the one that can be worn while conducting normal operations of any sort, unless the CO says otherwise. My service was in the Air Force in the '80s, when our standard duty uniform was blue shirt and slacks (longsleeved version also had a tie); however, we also had OG 507 duty fatigues, the old "olive drab" that even the Army had abandoned by then. (I understand that since then the Air Force has also moved on to a digital-camo fatigue uniform...) If pressed, I'd say that the Tactical uniform is probably intended for security personnel (the 25th-century equivalent of Military Police), although if you want to pick up the Odyssey Tactical uniform and then assign it as the "away team" uniform you're perfectly welcome to.
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  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    That's hard to say, because the only times we saw characters of that rank in canon to the best of my knowledge, they were in TOS, and were still called "Commodores". That being said, Commodore Matt Decker, commander of the USS Constellation, the Constitution-class cruiser that ran afould of the abandoned planet killer in "The Doomsday Weapon", certainly saw nothing wrong with wearing the uniform of a captain, with the rank insignia of a commodore. The same was true of the other commodore we saw, whose name escapes me, but who was as I recall in command of a space station somewhere.

    I think that was becuase there wasn't a different uniform for flag officers in TOS, which would make sense seeing as there were admirals in TOS also using the standard uniform.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,909 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    blinn1 wrote: »
    So the Odyssey uniform has a Dress, Duty and Tactical version.

    The Dress uniform is obviously for ceremonies and other special occasions, but what's the difference between the Duty uniform and the Tactical uniform? Is the Duty uniform worn on starships and starbases while the Tactical uniform worn on away missions?

    The Tactical Uniform was envisioned to be an away mission uniform, but that doesn't mean that you can't use it as you see fit. But if you're going for the "canon" look, then yes, it's the away uniform. The Duty Uniform would be considered the normal "uniform of the day".
    blinn1 wrote: »
    Also, my Starfleet character was just recently promoted to Rear Admiral, Lower Half, yet he's only less than halfway through the entire Federation storyline. If he'll still be flying around in a starship like before, should he still wear the Captain's Duty uniiform or should he instead wear the Rear Admiral Duty uniform (if the latter and if all of his bridge officers are then promoted to Captain, should they wear the Starship Captain's Duty uniform or the Starfleet Officer Duty uniform?)?

    That's a personal call. In my own "head canon", my toon is still a captain and therefore wears the Captain's Duty Uniform. Although, I do also have a costume slot for his Vice Admiral's Duty Uniform as well.
    blinn1 wrote: »
    And lastly, is a Flag Officer just another title for Admiral or is that a completely different position?

    Sorry about all the questions, but I want to get the conversion to the Odyssey uniforms just right. :)

    A Flag Officer is any officer of Commodore/Rear Admiral rank and higher. The term comes from a special flag denoting the officer's rank being flown on the ship to show his presence aboard ship.
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  • maxxstaronmaxxstaron Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I love the Odyssey uniform!

    The only issue is the color matching. I can't have a h12 belt with a I1 top and pants. The guide said those were the colors, but i cant match colors without changing other parts of the uniform.


    My game keeps crashing when I try to open the Tailor.
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    maxxstaron wrote: »
    I love the Odyssey uniform!

    The only issue is the color matching. I can't have a h12 belt with a I1 top and pants. The guide said those were the colors, but i cant match colors without changing other parts of the uniform.

    Try scrambling the colors using Randomize and then trying again. It sometimes resolves unwanted color linking problems, though it does take extra work, particularly if it changes your pants category (i.e. to skirts or knee-high instead).
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Is there a color guide for the Dress uniform? I currently wear it in the same colors as my odyssey Basic uniform, black, white and red, but i want to look like the officer on the Picture.

    THose new Uniforms are great, The Tactical is like a hybrid between the old ENT uniforms and the DS9/TNG uniforms and the dress looks like a mix of TWOK and TMP Elements. Perfect. Together with the Belt and the new Odyssey Com Badges just beautiful and the perfect Uniform for the 25th century.

    BTW there are no extra Panty for the Dress uniform? The Tactical variant has Extra pants
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Is there a color guide for the Dress uniform? ...
    Here are all of Thomas the Cryptic Cat's Color Guides (assembled into one thread by Askray):

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1166851

    Enjoy!

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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    blinn1 wrote: »
    So the Odyssey uniform has a Dress, Duty and Tactical version.

    The Dress uniform is obviously for ceremonies and other special occasions, but what's the difference between the Duty uniform and the Tactical uniform? Is the Duty uniform worn on starships and starbases while the Tactical uniform worn on away missions?

    Also, my Starfleet character was just recently promoted to Rear Admiral, Lower Half, yet he's only less than halfway through the entire Federation storyline. If he'll still be flying around in a starship like before, should he still wear the Captain's Duty uniiform or should he instead wear the Rear Admiral Duty uniform (if the latter and if all of his bridge officers are then promoted to Captain, should they wear the Starship Captain's Duty uniform or the Starfleet Officer Duty uniform?)?

    And lastly, is a Flag Officer just another title for Admiral or is that a completely different position?

    Sorry about all the questions, but I want to get the conversion to the Odyssey uniforms just right. :)

    1. Duty, Dress, Enlisted and Tactical - no real difference that actually matters ingame, RP basically.

    2. Either, in Star Trek Online Ship Commander context it is the same thing. My Vulcan main runs Flag Officer, my Altmeri Alt wears Captain with the Starfleet Academy Skirt.

    3. A Flag Officer in Star Trek terms is pretty much an Admiral rank commanding a Starship.

    4. No worries, it is all just an advisory uniform anyway, hence why C-Store and Veteran Rewards are used in some uniforms even though most wont have them.
  • ravinravin Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    TBH, I think the Flag Officers should wear the white shoulder variant to have them stand out more.
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  • angelsilhouetteangelsilhouette Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2014
    Here are all of Thomas the Cryptic Cat's Color Guides (assembled into one thread by Askray):

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1166851

    Enjoy!

    Thanks for this. ARC is so bloody useless that all of the pictures in the OP's provided link, the link also provided from the STO facebook page, are broken.

    Nearly all ARC pages have broken pictures for me. Every other web page apart from an ARC page works fine for me.
  • wayofderawayofdera Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Cryptic,

    It would be greatly appreciated if the Romulan faction could get new outfits for their captains, and bridge officers as well. Even if it's a tee with the slogan "we love ale" something would be appreciated.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    wayofdera wrote: »
    Cryptic,

    It would be greatly appreciated if the Romulan faction could get new outfits for their captains, and bridge officers as well. Even if it's a tee with the slogan "we love ale" something would be appreciated.
    Oh, Elements, yes. I know the Republic's just starting out, but if they can afford to design new ship types, why can't they hire a flipping clothing designer for a little while? And please, enough with the giant football-pad shoulders...
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  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    It looks like the tactical uses the same colors as the officer's uniform, but any way we can get the colors for the new dress uniform?
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,909 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    It looks like the tactical uses the same colors as the officer's uniform, but any way we can get the colors for the new dress uniform?

    Here's everything you need to know:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji0l9nt7q43r2bx/Starfleet_Uniform_Code_2410_web.pdf
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I change my uniform to the oddy one as well as a oddy/mu variant for me and my Boffs. But is it possible to give us a colour scheme for the Bortas uniform as a lot of KDf players would enjoy this
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  • jamesstjamesjamesstjames Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Personal preference, but I'm liking a red/departmnt colour base for the dress uniform.

    http://thepicardmaneuver.com/pride/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/07/dres.png

    I just get a TNG-Movie era combination vibe from it.
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