pvpers unite against the dil nerf! title of the thread, what came to mind a few sec after reading that was a bunch of sto pvpers with signs outside cryptic studios, on the signs phasers and disruptors crossed out, lol.
as for the thread, i couldn't really take it seriously to form a response.
Lol. Threads like this make me laugh. But this one is especially entertaining because someone is getting all worked up over the worst part of the game. PvP sucks. More than half of the playerbase doesn't even bother with it. Idk what you're complaining about. If its not about the dilithium, then why do you care that its getting nerfed? But please, continue with your plan. It will keep dumb players from getting in the way and bogging down my gameplay.
and BS, because their metrics are TRIBBLE. they probably do big study's right after a new season launches, that ends up being full of new pve grinds. their metrics tell only who is pvping, not who would rather be. i never see opvp with less then 200 people in it online nowadays, those are all people that pvp, and many probably wouldn't see a point in staying if their was just the hollow pve to play
It doesn't matter if its TRIBBLE or not, its how the owners like to measure things so Cryptic tows the line. Can't blame them for that, just as we can't blame people for leaving.
I've been logging in to do my daily rep project on my main... but these last 3 days or so I've been spending my time on another, recently launched game, and just a few hours before I wrote this the first iteration of the dogfighting module for Star Citizen was released. I hear its super buggy but I expect to see it stabilize by the weekend. Its looking like it'll soon be time for me to put STO in maintenance mode again and log in once every few weeks to check mail and respond to messages. That's one of the great aspects of STO, you leave for a months or even years and when you come back its easy and quick to catch up with all the new content.....
and BS, because their metrics are TRIBBLE. they probably do big study's right after a new season launches, that ends up being full of new pve grinds. their metrics tell only who is pvping, not who would rather be. i never see opvp with less then 200 people in it online nowadays, those are all people that pvp, and many probably wouldn't see a point in staying if their was just the hollow pve to play
The only way Cryptic is ever going to find out that they're wrong about their metrics for PvP-player purchases is if those PvP players stop playing entirely. So long as they remain, Cryptic knows it has you on an emotional rollercoaster, and its just a matter of time before they accidentally do something you approve of and get you to spend more money.
Saying: "I'm not going to quit, but I won't buy any more zen!" is worthless, and they know it. You ought to know it too.
So if you really want Cryptic to feel that cash loss from losing the PvP community, the PvP community has to be willing to stop playing until changes come. The down side to that is, they probably still won't ever come, which means you'll never play the game again.
From the perspective of those of us who already walked away from the game in hopes they'd realize this, those of you who remain are actually the people who are most responsible for them not seeing the truth. You don't want to stop playing, I get that. But I also get that you're the type of player who rewards Cryptic for a badly designed game. You're the type of player who says one thing, but does another. You show them it's okay for them to remain what they are because at the end of the day, you'll eventually cave in.
Cryptic makes a lot of money with minimal effort, and you are to thank for that. Maybe one day you'll figure it out.
all of this because cryptic is a mediocre game developer who is unwilling or unable (most probable) to program decent PVP, they punish their own pvp'ers by taking away the only incentive for non-core pvpers to actually pvp by placing cooldowns on the maps... yup, definitely cryptic thinking
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all of this because cryptic is a mediocre game developer who is unwilling or unable (most probable) to program decent PVP, they punish their own pvp'ers by taking away the only incentive for non-core pvpers to actually pvp by placing cooldowns on the maps... yup, definitely cryptic thinking
From the way so many threads out there are going...if they put in an event project where you fought in 9000 PvP matches you could unlock swimwear wherever you wanted...the queues would be bouncing nonstop! :rolleyes:
From the way so many threads out there are going...if they put in an event project where you fought in 9000 PvP matches you could unlock swimwear wherever you wanted...the queues would be bouncing nonstop! :rolleyes:
oh yes.. new risa swimwear after.. well, lets make it 100 pvp matches! yes, I see this!
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I don't think we should boycott the event, but I will protest while there. We should all make the ugliest characters in speedos like pakleds and name them something to do with the dil nerf.
I don't think we should boycott the event, but I will protest while there. We should all make the ugliest characters in speedos like pakleds and name them something to do with the dil nerf.
Hm, i like your idea. I might park my 2 meter tall tellatite sci there.
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we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
...don't forget ur discoballs and party equipment ^^ >)...
hmmm.... me likes... *evil laugh* BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAH *eviler laugh*
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we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Many fleets also organize private matches and they do all sorts of interesting stuff... Shuttles, or some silly all out brawl lol.
Anyway, opvp is quiet nowadays and I'm not surprised at all.
Kax keeps things interesting with her crazy way of writing and setting up matches daily. That's about it for PvP. The queues take a long time, even when supposedly, having joined queues was going to fix that. Heck, now I see even more quitters than before in the queues.
Kax keeps things interesting with her crazy way of writing and setting up matches daily. That's about it for PvP. The queues take a long time, even when supposedly, having joined queues was going to fix that. Heck, now I see even more quitters than before in the queues.
KAx iS AwueSOMe! !!!11!!one!!!1! Thehehehe
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we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
The inner troll in me just has a thought. Instead of boycotting the rosa events what pvpers should do is invade Risa with our deadliest characters and start challenging all pvers and rpers to matches. Then proceed to obliterate any that are foolish enough to accept.
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Nothing is impossible to him who would try.... except getting cryptic to care about pvp.
The inner troll in me just has a thought. Instead of boycotting the rosa events what pvpers should do is invade Risa with our deadliest characters and start challenging all pvers and rpers to matches. Then proceed to obliterate any that are foolish enough to accept.
...:). or invading there with teamed "premades" and build a wall of toons everywhere where it "fits" >) .... and don't forget ya party-poppers ....
sadly indeed i barely bother right now to log in, it's just kinda too depressing. todays game for me has been: log in, do a race on my fed, pick all available pvp-missions for my chars, refine dil and outta there as fast as possible
but i'm sure the next days i will go out to blow some stuff again, at least to release the anger about their "policies" (which seem more like dictates to me) :mad:
can't get that one phrase outta my head: the content we want u to play... lmao, like if we all were childish children on who one has to look after what they do while in church...................................... want to choose myself and i did. sadly what i chose not gives the chance to progress in any way. a well done game would provide several ways for several tastes, but yeah... a well done one.... no words
The inner troll in me just has a thought. Instead of boycotting the rosa events what pvpers should do is invade Risa with our deadliest characters and start challenging all pvers and rpers to matches. Then proceed to obliterate any that are foolish enough to accept.
exactly what i'm doing. got 50 disco balls, 2 poppers, combat and non combat pets... i find it trollpus opening trade window to people who are doing the "jetpack joyride" mission.
And, Wastee, i'va been challenging random people everyday, also asked a dev about the nerf his answer was "i don't know", hmm.
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"What a time it was, with all the world against us, what a time it was... When all we did seemed wrong,
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
...:). or invading there with teamed "premades" and build a wall of toons everywhere where it "fits" >) .... and don't forget ya party-poppers ....
sadly indeed i barely bother right now to log in, it's just kinda too depressing. todays game for me has been: log in, do a race on my fed, pick all available pvp-missions for my chars, refine dil and outta there as fast as possible
oh no, we need ya!
(oh, and our lag industries teamspeak died, too bad :O)
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"What a time it was, with all the world against us, what a time it was... When all we did seemed wrong,
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
oh no, we need ya!
(oh, and our lag industries teamspeak died, too bad :O)
...pvp needs every single pew-newb outta there, indeed! prob is they wouldn't learn anything if we played or not.
... let's see if some laggies are with me on the we, so we can have a great PAAARDY on risa :cool:...
Taco wouldn't necessarily know why that decision was made though..
how can you tell it was Taco!?! O.O
Oh, maybe because he's the only dev that talks to players. you're awesome taco
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we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
What did people THINK was going to happen? Players formed up a channel and organized a 24/7 exploit dil farm. People were stripping off all gear and just standing there to be shot as fast as possible to farm as fast as possible. And it was not a small group of people, it seemed like half the server was in on the action. The nerf is totally 100% player caused and self inflicted. Next time you figure out a way to get dil fast, keep it to yourself!
What did people THINK was going to happen? Players formed up a channel and organized a 24/7 exploit dil farm. People were stripping off all gear and just standing there to be shot as fast as possible to farm as fast as possible. And it was not a small group of people, it seemed like half the server was in on the action. The nerf is totally 100% player caused and self inflicted. Next time you figure out a way to get dil fast, keep it to yourself!
Male the private matchez not count and only the normal queues count for the three. Easy easy.
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we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
the devs have known about the arena and cap n hold channels/private queues,its been going on since year one.
they said they were happy about it and it didn't bother them.
so why the turn around ? new money men in the seat maybe ?
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as for the thread, i couldn't really take it seriously to form a response.
and BS, because their metrics are TRIBBLE. they probably do big study's right after a new season launches, that ends up being full of new pve grinds. their metrics tell only who is pvping, not who would rather be. i never see opvp with less then 200 people in it online nowadays, those are all people that pvp, and many probably wouldn't see a point in staying if their was just the hollow pve to play
It doesn't matter if its TRIBBLE or not, its how the owners like to measure things so Cryptic tows the line. Can't blame them for that, just as we can't blame people for leaving.
I've been logging in to do my daily rep project on my main... but these last 3 days or so I've been spending my time on another, recently launched game, and just a few hours before I wrote this the first iteration of the dogfighting module for Star Citizen was released. I hear its super buggy but I expect to see it stabilize by the weekend. Its looking like it'll soon be time for me to put STO in maintenance mode again and log in once every few weeks to check mail and respond to messages. That's one of the great aspects of STO, you leave for a months or even years and when you come back its easy and quick to catch up with all the new content.....
The only way Cryptic is ever going to find out that they're wrong about their metrics for PvP-player purchases is if those PvP players stop playing entirely. So long as they remain, Cryptic knows it has you on an emotional rollercoaster, and its just a matter of time before they accidentally do something you approve of and get you to spend more money.
Saying: "I'm not going to quit, but I won't buy any more zen!" is worthless, and they know it. You ought to know it too.
So if you really want Cryptic to feel that cash loss from losing the PvP community, the PvP community has to be willing to stop playing until changes come. The down side to that is, they probably still won't ever come, which means you'll never play the game again.
From the perspective of those of us who already walked away from the game in hopes they'd realize this, those of you who remain are actually the people who are most responsible for them not seeing the truth. You don't want to stop playing, I get that. But I also get that you're the type of player who rewards Cryptic for a badly designed game. You're the type of player who says one thing, but does another. You show them it's okay for them to remain what they are because at the end of the day, you'll eventually cave in.
Cryptic makes a lot of money with minimal effort, and you are to thank for that. Maybe one day you'll figure it out.
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From the way so many threads out there are going...if they put in an event project where you fought in 9000 PvP matches you could unlock swimwear wherever you wanted...the queues would be bouncing nonstop! :rolleyes:
oh yes.. new risa swimwear after.. well, lets make it 100 pvp matches! yes, I see this!
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yeah.. non-core pvpers would definitely go for that.... distracting them with revealing swimsuit lines!
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Emergency power to Creep
I like it
EPTC.... can call in 2 alt universe yous to dance bump people.
Hm, i like your idea. I might park my 2 meter tall tellatite sci there.
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
...don't forget ur discoballs and party equipment ^^ >)...
hmmm.... me likes... *evil laugh* BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAH *eviler laugh*
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Kax keeps things interesting with her crazy way of writing and setting up matches daily. That's about it for PvP. The queues take a long time, even when supposedly, having joined queues was going to fix that. Heck, now I see even more quitters than before in the queues.
KAx iS AwueSOMe! !!!11!!one!!!1! Thehehehe
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Nothing is impossible to him who would try.... except getting cryptic to care about pvp.
...:). or invading there with teamed "premades" and build a wall of toons everywhere where it "fits" >) .... and don't forget ya party-poppers
sadly indeed i barely bother right now to log in, it's just kinda too depressing. todays game for me has been: log in, do a race on my fed, pick all available pvp-missions for my chars, refine dil and outta there as fast as possible
but i'm sure the next days i will go out to blow some stuff again, at least to release the anger about their "policies" (which seem more like dictates to me) :mad:
can't get that one phrase outta my head: the content we want u to play... lmao, like if we all were childish children on who one has to look after what they do while in church...................................... want to choose myself and i did. sadly what i chose not gives the chance to progress in any way. a well done game would provide several ways for several tastes, but yeah... a well done one.... no words
exactly what i'm doing. got 50 disco balls, 2 poppers, combat and non combat pets... i find it trollpus opening trade window to people who are doing the "jetpack joyride" mission.
And, Wastee, i'va been challenging random people everyday, also asked a dev about the nerf his answer was "i don't know", hmm.
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
oh no, we need ya!
(oh, and our lag industries teamspeak died, too bad :O)
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
...pvp needs every single pew-newb outta there, indeed! prob is they wouldn't learn anything if we played or not.
... let's see if some laggies are with me on the we, so we can have a great PAAARDY on risa
Taco wouldn't necessarily know why that decision was made though..
how can you tell it was Taco!?!
Oh, maybe because he's the only dev that talks to players. you're awesome taco
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Male the private matchez not count and only the normal queues count for the three. Easy easy.
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
they said they were happy about it and it didn't bother them.
so why the turn around ? new money men in the seat maybe ?
Heh, contrary to popular belief...I actually do play the game. I was there.