Okay every one now here is my idea a propse built federation carrier with two hanger bays not the catian arrtox carrier so it has two bays can use lets say the Aquaris for its firgate deployable so that way its equal to the KDF's Vo'qu it has fore and aft weapons and is a vice admiral ship with fleet varient.
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I'd love to see a 2-hangar Starfleet carrier. However, I do not think its Frigate pets should be Mirandas, Defiants, Aquariuses, or any other existing ship. I think that the Frigates a 2-hangar Starfleet carrier gets should be new and fresh.
there's a big thread about fed carriers in the federation ship[yards. and no, it wont be possible for a starfleet designed carrier.... CBS doesnt want starfleet to have full 2 hanger carriers, its why they had to "borrow" the atrox from the Caitians.
I'd love to see a 2-hangar Starfleet carrier. However, I do not think its Frigate pets should be Mirandas, Defiants, Aquariuses, or any other existing ship. I think that the Frigates a 2-hangar Starfleet carrier gets should be new and fresh.
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Enough with the carriers already. Let's see some more actual trek ships for the feds. We already have the atrox carrier and a fleet atrox, a heavy escort carrier, a galaxy dreadnaught which should never have been given a hangar, and how many non-faction carriers? Enoughs enough. How about getting some new cruisers in here? How about some odyssey variants?
Yes, Feds should get a Starfleet-designed two-hangar carrier. It makes sense, they've had plenty of time to study the Atrox and see how effective the concept is in combat.
I'd like the frigate pets to be designed after the Maquis Raider, another ship that Starfleet had plenty of time to witness the effectiveness of and design their own version of. So, a cool 2410 version of the Valjean-type.
Yes, Feds should get a Starfleet-designed two-hangar carrier. It makes sense, they've had plenty of time to study the Atrox and see how effective the concept is in combat.
I'd like the frigate pets to be designed after the Maquis Raider, another ship that Starfleet had plenty of time to witness the effectiveness of and design their own version of. So, a cool 2410 version of the Valjean-type.
I agree its true desperate times call for desperate measures.
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No Sir! The game canna' take another of 'dem bloody carriers!
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True although they probably don't need one with how OP the Scmi is.
Kind of agree but I don't think need is the question. It's uniformity among all factions as far as ship choices. I think at this stage of the game there's no reason any one does not have at least a full fledged carrier, science, escort and cruiser types in the fleet.
Kind of agree but I don't think need is the question. It's uniformity among all factions as far as ship choices. I think at this stage of the game there's no reason any one does not have at least a full fledged carrier, science, escort and cruiser types in the fleet.
You make a point their dcpuser.
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I agree with many of the posters that it takes some uniqueness from the Klingon faction.
Also, there are IMO already enough ships with flight-decks. It's a nice feature but there are already so many ships having flight decks, i feel hangars are way too over-used. I'd rather like to see other unique abilities/items like Cruiser commands or the Secondary Deflectors. You know, something new and different that adds some diversity to the game.
Kind of agree but I don't think need is the question. It's uniformity among all factions as far as ship choices. I think at this stage of the game there's no reason any one does not have at least a full fledged carrier, science, escort and cruiser types in the fleet.
But at the same time one has to ask where are the Fed and KDF equivalents of the Scimitar's ungodly firepower, etc? There is not much uniformity between the Factions until the other two get their super-dreadnoughts.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
No, the Atrox and Heavy Escort Carrier are enough.
I have as yet to ever see any federation carrier deploying strike fighters on screen. We have seen the Romulan fighters on the Scimitaur, so we can assume they are launched carrier style. The Peregrine was considered to have its on warp drive, or so I thought.
The complaint that Carriers where KDF unique sits on the fact that ingame for a long time they where only availible to the KDF, pre fedwhine.
To lay this entire dead pachyderm to its final rest, Feds should get Fed-designed carrier carriers. They launch carriers, which then launch shuttles, which then launch fighters, which then launch drones. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Oh, and of course every level of the "Federation Nesting Carriers" fleet would have Enhanced Battle Cloaca technology.
Enough with the carriers already. Let's see some more actual trek ships for the feds. We already have the atrox carrier and a fleet atrox, a heavy escort carrier, a galaxy dreadnaught which should never have been given a hangar, and how many non-faction carriers? Enoughs enough. How about getting some new cruisers in here? How about some odyssey variants?
The player read my mind. I want Odyssey variants that have physical differences, not just 3 clones with different stats. A Science ship that looks sciency, low mounted engines, smaller engineering hull and a science pod above, an engineering version with different pylons that slope forward instead of back, a tactical ship that looks tactical, maybe a different engineering hull with a big gun mount, a real dreadnought instead of the half-a--ed one they made the Galaxy X into.
We can argue about canon until the cows come home but it won't alter the fact that CBS said no to a Starfleet full carrier, so every time someone brings up this topic they are beating a dead horse. We have not seen good high end factional cruisers in this game for a while now, it's all been escorts or hybrid alien TRIBBLE and frankly neither the Federation nor the Klingons have anything that matches the Scimitar.
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Why would you use the Litter Box or even the Obelisk when you can use the JHDC or the Tholian? The JHDC and Tholian are waaaaaay better in terms of firepower and can equip the top 2 pets in game.
Why would you use the Litter Box or even the Obelisk when you can use the JHDC or the Tholian? The JHDC and Tholian are waaaaaay better in terms of firepower and can equip the top 2 pets in game.
I guess because of the lack of availability.
Though, I have both, so I guess I don't have a horse in this race! Yay!
Yes, Feds should get a Starfleet-designed two-hangar carrier. It makes sense, they've had plenty of time to study the Atrox and see how effective the concept is in combat.
I'd like the frigate pets to be designed after the Maquis Raider, another ship that Starfleet had plenty of time to witness the effectiveness of and design their own version of. So, a cool 2410 version of the Valjean-type.
to be honest if starfleet has any resemblence of earths military they should already know how awsome carriers are in battle just look at the navy's carriers if anything we should already have had full carriers aside from the atrox.
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simply because you have the Atrox...the Federation was never meant to have a full carrier
that was the KDFs unique ship
then the Feddie's all whined until they got themselves a full carrier in the guise of the Atrox
and yet again we have another thread where the Feds are asking for more more more
it never ends :rolleyes:
Normally I'd agree, but Klingons already stole the Fed's unique classes.
In the beginning, Klingons had raiders and carriers, Federation had science ships and full cruisers.
Now, Klingons have a few sci ships and the Bort, so at this point all is fair. Carriers and sci ships for everyone.
I'd like the frigate pets to be designed after the Maquis Raider, another ship that Starfleet had plenty of time to witness the effectiveness of and design their own version of. So, a cool 2410 version of the Valjean-type.
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Kind of agree but I don't think need is the question. It's uniformity among all factions as far as ship choices. I think at this stage of the game there's no reason any one does not have at least a full fledged carrier, science, escort and cruiser types in the fleet.
I agree with many of the posters that it takes some uniqueness from the Klingon faction.
Also, there are IMO already enough ships with flight-decks. It's a nice feature but there are already so many ships having flight decks, i feel hangars are way too over-used. I'd rather like to see other unique abilities/items like Cruiser commands or the Secondary Deflectors. You know, something new and different that adds some diversity to the game.
I have as yet to ever see any federation carrier deploying strike fighters on screen. We have seen the Romulan fighters on the Scimitaur, so we can assume they are launched carrier style. The Peregrine was considered to have its on warp drive, or so I thought.
The complaint that Carriers where KDF unique sits on the fact that ingame for a long time they where only availible to the KDF, pre fedwhine.
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EDIT: Oh, and of course every level of the "Federation Nesting Carriers" fleet would have Enhanced Battle Cloaca technology.
We can argue about canon until the cows come home but it won't alter the fact that CBS said no to a Starfleet full carrier, so every time someone brings up this topic they are beating a dead horse. We have not seen good high end factional cruisers in this game for a while now, it's all been escorts or hybrid alien TRIBBLE and frankly neither the Federation nor the Klingons have anything that matches the Scimitar.
I guess because of the lack of availability.
Though, I have both, so I guess I don't have a horse in this race! Yay!
I want to hope that was a mis-spell
Abandon all hope, there was no mistake. :P
to be honest if starfleet has any resemblence of earths military they should already know how awsome carriers are in battle just look at the navy's carriers if anything we should already have had full carriers aside from the atrox.