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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    I must be doing it wrong. I'd love to have power levels that high :). Weapons sure, but the rest. not so much.

    Although this is probably a topic for another thread. Sorry for the hijack.


    Spire/Mine wrp cores/ plasmonic leach/ Aux to batt/ battery duty officer many other duty officers increase power

    Skills/ maco shieldls without plasmonic lech some impulse engines like Fleet engines add over 12 points of power

    I probably forgot a few things too
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    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

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  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The only ship they really need now is a full carrier.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The only ship they really need now is a full carrier.

    I do want one but I still think a ship that lives up to the name "Battlecruier" is in order.
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The only ship they really need now is a full carrier.

    This is so wrong it's kind of sad.

    The Romulan ships consist of three types - escorts, "cruisers", and one destroyer. Nothing else.

    Romulans still lack proper science ships. The only thing close is a lousy, lazy Ha'apax half. The Science Destroyer is still just an Escort, just with a silly gimmick and an ugly skin.

    Romulans need a proper battlecruiser. D'd's too slow, nothing else even remotely qualifies.

    Romulans need a proper carrier. Ar'kif is just an Escort Carrier, which is still just an Escort.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'd like to see romulan ships get nerfed into balance
    It ain't the ships. It is the boffs. Make The various levels of Romulan Operative not stack and most of the OP-ness of the Roms goes away.
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    I thought they said new ships are coming before S10

    they did and there will be ..........but see when this does happen...we feds will still get more ships than you and the dirty klingons ....andthen you will cry for even more ships....so to answer your future post for even more ships......................nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    The Romulan ships consist of three types - escorts, "cruisers", and one destroyer. Nothing else.

    Two destroyers (the Mogai plays more as a Destroyer than as an Escort) and a... "Predator."

    The Scimitar escorts nothing but death, and thanks to its use in navies, "destroyer" has connotations that are fairly inadequate for the largest, most powerful vessel in the Romulan fleet.
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Wait, you're telling me there's something else apart Scimitars?! :P

    IMO Romulans have already a wide selection of powerful ships. They're not for Battle Cruisers like a Mogh or Avenger. They're known for cloaking and subterfuge. Can't say anything on bridge (I always beam over Scimitar bridge just for Account Bank), but devs said it takes even more than doing a ship, so we'll hardly see more of them.
  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It ain't the ships. It is the boffs. Make The various levels of Romulan Operative not stack and most of the OP-ness of the Roms goes away.

    Its not even the Boffs, its the crit stacking itself.
    It just goes up to ludicrous levels with tactical captains, antiproton weapons and rep trait stacking.
    But a science or engineer non-antiproton beamboat isn't going to get remotely the same OP benefit from stacking them.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Its not even the Boffs, its the crit stacking itself.
    It just goes up to ludicrous levels with tactical captains, antiproton weapons and rep trait stacking. But a science or engineer non-antiproton beamboat isn't going to get remotely the same OP benefit from stacking them.
    Hmmm, maybe a hard cap on crit percentage then? Cap it at, say, 20% (or whatever) - that way you can choose how you want to get to the cap. *shrug*
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I must be doing it wrong. I'd love to have power levels that high :). Weapons sure, but the rest. not so much.

    Although this is probably a topic for another thread. Sorry for the hijack.

    Don't mind them, always some people who will go on about how OP Romulans are but they like to ignore facts, for example they love to use the Plasmonic Leech argument that the -10 power can be made up by it but always seem to ignore that a Fed can pick one up and boost their power up to higher levels.

    They'll sit there and pretend that Singularity Cores are so much better then M/AM cores when they aren't.

    Romulans are powerful and the boffs should probably have their crit bonuses reduced, but some people will make it sound like every Romulan ship in the game is as powerful as the Scimitar an that they're just so incredibly OP.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It ain't the ships. It is the boffs.
    The BOFFs are stupidly powerful as well, but the root difference is in the ships. If the ships were closer in stats the BOFFs would be less of an issue.

    Compare the Fleet Dhelan to its peer the Fleet Advanced Escort. The warbird has more hit-points, better shield modifier (more shields and faster healing), a universal Lieutenant BOFF station, a battlecloak, and singularity powers. The FAE can split into three pieces :rolleyes:

    The free end-game Rom ships are awful, but then again the free end-game Fed ships arent that great either. Just looking at Fleet and c-store ships, its really just no contest.

    Cryptic won't buff the other factions. Look at what didnt happen to the Galaxy.
  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    We cant advocate reducing Romulan crit Boff's or taKing away there powers season 9 proved how bad it is to take things away

    We have to get SRO's in the romulan embassys for the feds and klink's in engineering and science to make crit chance even
    Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »
    We cant advocate reducing Romulan crit Boff's or taKing away there powers season 9 proved how bad it is to take things away

    We have to get SRO's in the romulan embassys for the feds and klink's in engineering and science to make crit chance even

    Why does everything have to be the same? Feds have Humans for their Leadership Trait, it should be buffed but balanced to make sure it isn't as OP as it was, and Klingons have Pirate which should probably get a bit of a buff.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Why does everything have to be the same? Feds have Humans for their Leadership Trait, it should be buffed but balanced to make sure it isn't as OP as it was, and Klingons have Pirate which should probably get a bit of a buff.


    Feds need DPS not more healing even as leadership was it doesnt compared to 7.5% additionl crit chance

    The tiny amount of base damage from the pirates boff abilitys..smirk...it doesnt compare either

    7.5% additional crit chance is ( HUGE )

    take all of your SRO's off your rommie and replace them with humans and you will see just how much dmage the do for you...you will get sick at your stomach
    Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hmmm, maybe a hard cap on crit percentage then? Cap it at, say, 20% (or whatever) - that way you can choose how you want to get to the cap. *shrug*

    Yeah that IMO is really the best solution.
    As it would help somewhat level the playing field.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »


    Feds need DPS not more healing even as leadership was it doesnt compared to 7.5% additionl crit chance

    The tiny amount of base damage from the pirates boff abilitys..smirk...it doesnt compare either

    7.5% additional crit chance is ( HUGE )

    take all of your SRO's off your rommie and replace them with humans and you will see just how much dmage the do for you...you will get sick at your stomach

    Why do they need more DPS? If anyone needs more DPS it's the KDF. Their only 5 tac console ship is a not so great cruiser. Feds have the best science ships in game, multiples with 4 tac consoles and only one with a hangar, Romulans can beat Feds in the Escort department but Fed Escorts crush Klingon Raptors, Feds have the best Cruisers and tied for the best BattleCruiser, And Romulans have the Scimitar.

    Klingons don't win in any category, so if anyone deserves more DPS it's the Klingons.
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  • revelator6674revelator6674 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Don't mind them, always some people who will go on about how OP Romulans are but they like to ignore facts, for example they love to use the Plasmonic Leech argument that the -10 power can be made up by it but always seem to ignore that a Fed can pick one up and boost their power up to higher levels.

    They'll sit there and pretend that Singularity Cores are so much better then M/AM cores when they aren't.

    Romulans are powerful and the boffs should probably have their crit bonuses reduced, but some people will make it sound like every Romulan ship in the game is as powerful as the Scimitar an that they're just so incredibly OP.

    Yea, I was gonna say, I know I'm new, but gosh darn, I like to think I'm not totally terrible at MMOs and build effective characters, but I definitely don't have 3 power levels over 100.
  • thetaninethetanine Member Posts: 1,367 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Well the Feds got the Tempest today. Let's hope the other factions get an equal treatment.
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    thetanine wrote: »
    Well the Feds got the Tempest today. Let's hope the other factions get an equal treatment.
    Pfffffffhehehehehehe...

    Good one.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    thetanine wrote: »
    Well the Feds got the Tempest today. Let's hope the other factions get an equal treatment.

    U serious?
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    We need new ships? I'm still enjoying the hell out of my Fleet D'Deridex (until it gets an update and I'll need to rebuy it later).

    Let alone the Scimitars people are flying.

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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    U serious?

    Shirley, you can't be Sirius ... Sorry couldn't resist ...

    But yes, the Feds got a new Escort Retrofit and an Upgrade for the Fleet Escort Retrofit.

    Read the Dev Blog, in the 'News' section ...

    Persoanjlly, I'd just like to see the 2 Temporal ships made into C-Store Retrofits for Romulans ... They are both totally sexy looking ships, but you almost never see them in game, there is so few of them around.

    If they made, say the Mobius as a non-temporal TacScort/Raptor and the R'Mor as a non-tempoaral SciScort/Raptor ... That would be cool. (non-temporal, as in remove the temporal abilities, and make them just normal 'Retrofit" versions)
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    bendalek wrote: »
    Shirley, you can't be Sirius ... Sorry couldn't resist ...

    But yes, the Feds got a new Escort Retrofit and an Upgrade for the Fleet Escort Retrofit.

    Read the Dev Blog, in the 'News' section ...

    Persoanjlly, I'd just like to see the 2 Temporal ships made into C-Store Retrofits for Romulans ... They are both totally sexy looking ships, but you almost never see them in game, there is so few of them around.

    If they made, say the Mobius as a non-temporal TacScort/Raptor and the R'Mor as a non-tempoaral SciScort/Raptor ... That would be cool. (non-temporal, as in remove the temporal abilities, and make them just normal 'Retrofit" versions)

    Don't call me Shirley.;)
    Oh I'd seen the new ship. What I meant with the "u serious" that thetanine seriously expects equal treatment for the other factions.
  • jjdezjjdez Member Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I honestly can't believe there are in people in here asking for buffs to Romulan ships, wow. Oh, and then another person asking for a Romulan-Avenger equivalent...because the Scimitar isn't enough??? Goodness, here's to the death of balance, may it forever rest in peace in Romulans Online.

    Give the KDF more ship options, so maybe people will want to roll non-Romulan KDF toons.
  • coldicephoenixcoldicephoenix Member Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Both Romulans and Klingons need better Sci ships.
    A few unique Reman designs would be great as also Gorn tac/eng cruisers.

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  • chrisbrown12009chrisbrown12009 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jjdez wrote: »
    I honestly can't believe there are in people in here asking for buffs to Romulan ships, wow. Oh, and then another person asking for a Romulan-Avenger equivalent...because the Scimitar isn't enough??? Goodness, here's to the death of balance, may it forever rest in peace in Romulans Online.

    Give the KDF more ship options, so maybe people will want to roll non-Romulan KDF toons.

    While i acknowledge the scimitar's OP-ness, as a ship i HATE it. it is NOT romulan, its reman. its too big, bigger than its canon size, turns like a bus, is ugly as sin, and slides. it SLIDES! now, i completely understand Newtonian physics and that EVERY ship should slide however, for the gameplay of STO the sliding doesnt nor has it EVER felt right to me. The avenger/mgh both have more turn and they dont slide, plus they have that 5/3 layout ive grown fond of. i am not asking for a non sliding 5 tac console, 5 forward weapon slot tanking romulan nightmare. To be honest, a "romulan avenger" would be slightly weaker than the scimitar due to less tac consoles.

    That said, ive been thinking out i "what if" proposal:

    What if, After studing the Dysons, using the learned tech in a science ship, the three powers came together in the spirit of true cooperation and collaboration by pulling their technology together to create "the iconian killer" a warship the likes of which NO one has seen that will be available to ALL factions as a fleet level Cstore ship. think about it, the warp core from the feds, the 5/3 non sliding battlecrusier feel from the klingons, and the battle cloak from the romulans. No sing powers. crusier commands. a turn rate of 10, about the sive of the avenger with about 400-500 crew. Armor which deploys in battle like the avenger, but surrounds 90% of the ship like the voyager armor, leaving space open to fire energy weapons. sheild mod of 1, and about 38000 hull. Can mount dual cannons. with 4 tac consoles, 4 eng, and 1 sci. with a lt cmd tac, cmder eng, lt sci. lt cmder universal, eng
    universal.

    with the fleet version getting the normal +10% to stats and a second sci console.

    and an actually uesful console, but something defensive so its not TOO broken.

    and again, open to all factions. there are lockbox ships worst than this, and with all the power creep A2B friendly ships they are making, this falls right in line with that.

    I could even draw it up.
  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    What if, After studing the Dysons, using the learned tech in a science ship, the three powers came together in the spirit of true cooperation and collaboration by pulling their technology together to create "the iconian killer" a warship the likes of which NO one has seen that will be available to ALL factions as a fleet level Cstore ship. think about it, the warp core from the feds, the 5/3 non sliding battlecrusier feel from the klingons, and the battle cloak from the romulans. No sing powers. crusier commands. a turn rate of 10, about the sive of the avenger with about 400-500 crew. Armor which deploys in battle like the avenger, but surrounds 90% of the ship like the voyager armor, leaving space open to fire energy weapons. sheild mod of 1, and about 38000 hull. Can mount dual cannons. with 4 tac consoles, 4 eng, and 1 sci. with a lt cmd tac, cmder eng, lt sci. lt cmder universal, eng
    universal.

    with the fleet version getting the normal +10% to stats and a second sci console.

    and an actually uesful console, but something defensive so its not TOO broken.

    and again, open to all factions. there are lockbox ships worst than this, and with all the power creep A2B friendly ships they are making, this falls right in line with that.

    I could even draw it up.

    You forgot the hangars from KDF. With Frigates. As long as it stay all faction I will so buy it.
  • ssb64ssb64 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I agree rommies need new ships, but please... no more giant, power sliding tacships
    A new sciship or a decent carrier, or perhaps a small battlecruiser (warbird?) would be good...
    But I guess that cryptic is going to make a refit version of the hegh'ta bop, and it's fleet version before they make another rommie ship... now that they pretty much slap'd klink's raider flanking bonus giving feds aft 90º dc's...
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  • chrisbrown12009chrisbrown12009 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jestersage wrote: »
    You forgot the hangars from KDF. With Frigates. As long as it stay all faction I will so buy it.

    I thought about hanger pets but thought it would be too much. while the visual i have in mind does have visible shuttle bays i this adding pet would bee too much.

    Seriosly, i have the look of the ship in mind and everything. A design that would combine ALL aspects of each factions ships. An elongated pointed saucer attached directy to the main hull like the star crusiers fed side, with a thick hull tapering into the sweped-forward wings of a bird with klingon mogh-like nacelles, pointed and placed midway through the wings. the main deflector would sit up on the top portion and would be covered when the armor is in place, as would the nacelles. and windows. she would be graceful and smooth lined while looking fast and powerful. They type of thing that youre happy to see show up to help, or send you running for a bomb shelter if youre the reason it DID show up. With a KDF/RR/FED combined logo on it.


    i dont think it would really happen, that they would contact me to make my ship in game, but i would do it for the pleasure of added a part of myself to the game, i modest amount of zen, and the ship itself free to my account. i figure thats peanuts to PWE for having an awesome ship drop into their laps.
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