I rolled a reman when LOR first came out. I've got every rom tac ship there is and I agree we need something new. With the klingons and Feds it feels like I'm picking up a new ship every other week. Point is if a ship doesn't have a singularity core and a RBC I wouldn't even consider giving it to my Reman. We do need a few more ships. Tac is ok, eng is ok, what we need is science ships. If we had a few more sci ships i might roll a reman sci toon. You never know.
here's the problem right now, on the Romulan side:
There are 2 ships missing until we have suitable tier 5 ships of every type.
One: An in-faction full carrier. We have the Ar'Kif, but it only launches 1 wave of fighters. Meaning if you want interceptor mode (shoot down those pesky heavy undine torpedoes) you don't get attack mode fighters too. There's the Obelisk, but it doesn't have the tactical oomph of the Kar'Fi *or* the science powers of the Atrox or Vo'Quv. The Obelisk's job is really simple: Take damage while dishing out enough to make yourself not completely useless. It does that, but then we come to the other issue with Romulan carriers. It can't launch frigates. The Scimitar can. But you then have to choose between frigates (probably the best at straight dps while not having the numbers to be good at intercepting incoming torpedoes) and fighters (which are really good at shooting down incoming torpedoes and pretty good at DPS). My preferred carrier layout is 1 bay of frigates on offensive mode and 1 bay of fighters on intercept mode. It's impossible, currently, on romulans without buying the Recluse or Jem Dread, which carry their own issues that are neither here nor there.
2: A good tier 5 science vessel. I know, you're all saying "but... dyson/r'mor". Here's the issue: The Dyson classes are really ugly. The Scimitar is Miss America by comparison. I don't know who decided to make a white and blue ship material with that many lattices and holes in it, or why, but I'm not a fan. Also, the gimmick is extremely situational. The thing doesn't have the hull to hold up in tactical mode in a firefight, so you're reduced to hit-and-fade tactics like every other romulan ship is eventually, or you drop tactical mode to get the extra shields back and pray it can dish out enough damage for the Valdore console to save you (it usually can't.) The R'Mor is a reskinned Fed/KDF ship that has a different name (and an exorbitant price tag).
What we need is a battle-cloaking, singularity tray-having, Tier-freakin-5, Intrepid class.
Or, y'know, make the Haakona actually reduce the cost of its parts too.
sing powers
battle cloak
bonus power to weapons and engines.
+1
Another can be implement romulan material on dyson sci destroyer (that white looks to much FED imo) and third a two hangar carrier (f.e. something like D'rithau with hangars)
I think it would be interesting to see them do a set of 3 ships that is a Fed/Rom joint venture for Fed alligned Rom's, and a KDF/Rom joint venture for the KDF alligned Rom's, would be interesting thing to see, and cause for a bit of design freedom.
Though there is probably room for a Rom Repub. Set of ships, something showing thier departure from the past. Obviously it still need to be kept in style of romulans, but still I am sure there could be something there that could be done.
ruff, meow, moo, whatever.... *shrug* [ Still Waiting for a Shiny New T6 Romulan Science Ship to Command ]
I think it would be interesting to see them do a set of 3 ships that is a Fed/Rom joint venture for Fed alligned Rom's, and a KDF/Rom joint venture for the KDF alligned Rom's, would be interesting thing to see, and cause for a bit of design freedom.
I suppose they kind of do, nevero thought about those much, probably because I kind of hate those ships. Probably not with much cause though, I have only the one from the Q event.
ruff, meow, moo, whatever.... *shrug* [ Still Waiting for a Shiny New T6 Romulan Science Ship to Command ]
here's the problem right now, on the Romulan side:
There are 2 ships missing until we have suitable tier 5 ships of every type.
...
2: A good tier 5 science vessel. I know, you're all saying "but... dyson...
This!
My Romulan character made it to 50 and got almost all reputations maxed and the romulan inhouse choices for sci ships are:
Ha'nom
The Ha'nom actually is a real science ship. The problem is, it is a space bus. Huge, ugly, rather tame boff layout. The looks aside, it works for the more defensive minded sci-players though. It pretty much a romulanized Reconnaissance Science Vessel - more crew, size of a planet, turns worse, slightly more hull & shields.
Dyson Destroyer.
The Dyson Destroyer. It got a more offensive bridge layout but pays for its gimmicks (which are all worthless in non-tactical mode) with a lower shield multiplier of 1.375 compared to 1.43+ of regular fleet class sci ships.
The console layouts can be directly compared to the vesta.
It has 0.025 more shield modifier and about 3450 more hull. If the rumors are true and the vesta gets buffed soon, it will probably have almost the same hull.
On top of it the vesta gets special cannons and a hangar.
In the end, the vesta is, unless someone uses the combat-mode of the dyson ship, flat out better.
I can only assume that the reduced shield is to balance the "destroyer"-side of the ship, as a destroyer with commander tac and a 1.357 shield mod is pretty impressive.
Overall i consider the dyson series too gimmicky and those gimmicks are extremely specialized too. Other, non-inhouse ships, can do the same (or better) but without the gimmicks.
If i compare the Dyson destroyer to the Tulwar (same price), it gets utterly ridiculous.
I really would like to see a no frills, science-focused warbird that, while combat themed, is not a space bus, not loaded with gimmicks and still a science ship.
Sensor Analysis & Secondary deflector - no subsystem targeting.
Some might consider the 4/2 weapons layout OP, but since the front-shifted layout seems to come without penalties for ships like mogh/avenger/scimitar, i don't see why an offensive oriented science vessel shouldn't have a shifted weapon layout without drawbacks either.
Aham, cryptic... I would like to report a bug... there are some romulan ships missing... I can't find carriers, cruisers or even science vessels on the romulan side... please fix! thanks!
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"Achiever Killers often look to 1v1 duels for proof of their superior play and are frustrated by "rock paper scissor" game mechanics."
That's me !
It's probably all copyrighted and stuff, so Cryptic probably can't use any of it directly, but gosh darn it, they have some great looking ships, and the "lore" to go with them ...
The Devs at Cryptic could maybe at least get some ideas from that page ...
It's probably all copyrighted and stuff, so Cryptic probably can't use any of it directly, but gosh darn it, they have some great looking ships, and the "lore" to go with them ...
The Devs at Cryptic could maybe at least get some ideas from that page ...
They all look great, even tough Cryptic can't just copy them, they could take a look for inspiration
Is it really that hard to make a new ship? Copy Avenger/Mogh DNA, give Singularity core and its benefits/drawbacks, take inspiration on fanmade ships and in 1-2 months a new ship is released!
Romulan faction is starting to get boring with all the scimitars 'n tvaros
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"Achiever Killers often look to 1v1 duels for proof of their superior play and are frustrated by "rock paper scissor" game mechanics."
That's me !
No I can't find science vessels in the Romulan lineup
People still dont understand that every "faction" have their own strengths. Science ships is not one of em talking about the Rommies. Period. In fact, non of the romulan ships should have science abilities. NONE. Be happy that you have a few to chose from. I love the way romulans are now, i dont need more ships, because that is what they are. They have warbirds, period. They have the scimitar. Period. And nothing more, keep adding ships everywhere and we will need to change the name from romulans to fedans.
O.K. What this comes down to is a bridge officer seating issue. Also, the number of slots in our forward array. I have the Science Destroyer pack, and it is nice, believe me. However, the ship has one slot in the forward array that cannot be changed.
#1: We need a ship with FIVE (5) forward slots that is not a Scimitar or Heavy type ship. Something more like the Federation's Avenger Battle Cruiser (and its Fleet variant).
#2 We need the same ship to have a decent boff layout, such as: 1 Cmd. Tac, 1 Lt.Cmd. Eng, 1 Lt.Cmd. Sci, and 1 Lt. Universal.
This ship needs a base turn rate of around 10-15, and the normal Warbird powers. It also needs a console triple set, that would come in a three pack--one ship and one console for each profession: Tac, Eng, Sci. Getting the three pack would get you all three consoles and synergies thereof.
Cryptic, I'm eagerly awaiting to spend money on a new Romulan Ship!
the avenger is the scimitar. Both are "cruisers" and generally identical apart from the standard rom differences (cloak and singularity). What you are asking for is the andorian escort maybe? Regardless, 5 frontals is a rare thing, and if it becomes the norm, sci ships need to upgrade to 4 (already seen in the dyson, so maybe this is inevitable). Still, 5 frontals is a big deal... and not to be asked for lightly unless you just want to add power creep faster.
Ltcmdr+ in all 3 categories is *rare*. Its on a couple of box ships and other special ships, but only a couple of standard cstore/fleet/etc ships have this sort of thing. Ours is the DD.
Rather nothing than again something totally oversized - Ar'kif (560m)-b.turn rate 16, Ha'nom (1305m)- b.turn rate 10, Scimitar (1500m) b.turn rate 7 and insane sliding , in comparison with Exploration cruiser (642m) b. turn rate 6. Where Starfleet engineers have done a mistake?
Ar'kif could be a nice battlecruiser , comparable to the Avenger(530m) , the size would have fit, but some developer decided that the Romulans need a sixth kind of escorts.
The same thing with D'rithau , this ship looks not so bad, so why is she only a skin for D'D? Why she could not be a two hangar carrier modification for D'D?
Overall, I find that when they invented the numbers for the Romulan ships , so they lacked the power of invention.
But I just only oppressing, three ships are really nice : temporals and Daeinos , unfortunately, first two are very rare lock-box ships without sing powers and cloak and the third is a lifetime ship.
So, i still hope in "metric ton of ships" in expansion two. Cruiser or battlecruiser (7-11 turn , 4-4 or 5-3 w.), carrier with two hangar and proper sci romulan ship (or at least romulan green skin on dyson ship).
And to make it fair , KDF should get his 5tac console escort (f.e. Orion raider 5-1 w.) , buff Bortasqu (now shield mod 1 , poor snare and pet ship what dying in first explosion ?) , fleet Guramba, klingon boff with the space trait .
I suggest for FED buff some ships that do little to sell a similar style as it they did with the patrol escort , they really have to make no worries about giving to weaker ships a more powerful consoles - specific ship only, then something strong against cloaks and finally boff with two space traits.
That's because you're coming off play on a very spoiled faction in terms of dev attention.
Sorry if you can't find Rom Vesta.
But the Ha'nom, DSD, are capable science vessels, even if you don't know how to make the most of them.
And that's just sticking to faction science vessels and not even diving into lobi / lockbox ones.
Really shouldn't be diving into the lobi lockbox ones...
And for the message above about Romulans shouldn't have science period....LOL
Romulans are the premier faction when it comes to tech and science breakthroughs....
people should read up a bit more on history before stating something else.
Romulans need....this is need not would be nice at some point during the 9 year anniversary
Proper Romulan Flagship not REMAN
Donatra's ship to be placed back to the MOGAI not a scimitar for the STF /boggle
A science vessel that compares to the vesta in abilities (not talking can equip cannons...talking bout the damn console set) and toss the kdf one while were at it oh great and masterful copy/paste
A pure carrier (feds have the caitian one and of course the KDF has theirs)
by adding just those 4 ships into the game you will see much more diversity than the Tvaro/scimitar fleet we apparently have
There is at least one new Romulan ship in the making. Smirk said as much in one of his livestreams earlier this year. I hope it's a true non-hybrid Science warbird (3-pack) with unique abilities and consoles. The Romulans have enough tactical warbirds and quite a few cruiser type ships, but only 1 endgame science warbird.
And this is weird. If you think of Romulans you think of sneaky ways and special abilities to outwit your enemies. They should be the masters of science abilities.
People still dont understand that every "faction" have their own strengths. Science ships is not one of em talking about the Rommies. Period. In fact, non of the romulan ships should have science abilities. NONE. Be happy that you have a few to chose from. I love the way romulans are now, i dont need more ships, because that is what they are. They have warbirds, period. They have the scimitar. Period. And nothing more, keep adding ships everywhere and we will need to change the name from romulans to fedans.
Yeah right not give one of the factions that actually had a science ship onscreen any science abilities, that's a brilliant move.:P
People still dont understand that every "faction" have their own strengths. Science ships is not one of em talking about the Rommies. Period. In fact, non of the romulan ships should have science abilities. NONE. Be happy that you have a few to chose from. I love the way romulans are now, i dont need more ships, because that is what they are. They have warbirds, period. They have the scimitar. Period. And nothing more, keep adding ships everywhere and we will need to change the name from romulans to fedans.
Are you serious? Romulans shouldn't have any Science abilities? I don't know what you've been watching all this years but you should watch the Romulan TNG episodes again. Romulans are not the full frontal attack kind of race the Klingons are. Giving more Science abilities to the Romulans would install the trinity so many Star Trek games have used before. Klingons are fully tactical oriented with strong weapons and heavy hulls, Feds are the balanced ones and Romulan the sneaky scientific ones.
Are you serious? Romulans shouldn't have any Science abilities? I don't know what you've been watching all this years but you should watch the Romulan TNG episodes again. Romulans are not the full frontal attack kind of race the Klingons are. Giving more Science abilities to the Romulans would install the trinity so many Star Trek games have used before. Klingons are fully tactical oriented with strong weapons and heavy hulls, Feds are the balanced ones and Romulan the sneaky scientific ones.
+1
At least , according to one we saw the tv show, the Romulans have a scientific ship (TNG 5x24 The Next Phase) experimenting with phase cloak and at least one science-exploration ship (VOY 1x07 Eye of the Needle) with romulan scientist who was sent back in time and space on Voyager.
Overall, we saw in tv show more cruisers and science romulan ships than a vapescorts as in the game.
A TRUE Science ship. Not just slap an extra couple of Sci consoles on.
A TRUE Carrier. Not just slap a single hangar on.
A TRUE Battlecruiser. Not just slap the name on. (naming it a "Battle Cruiser" doesn't make it one)
It's frustrating, when the only 4 + 4 weapon ship, with a half decent BoFF layout, Console layout, Hull and SPEED, available to Romulan players, is the Risian Luxury Cruiser!
Realistically the Ha'feh should be a 4 + 4 with around an 8~10 Turn Rate.
And the D'ridthau should have received the "Tactical Carrier" retrofit option, and the Ar'Kif Retrofit/Fleet, could have been a second perhaps either more Science, Engineering or Tactical oriented ship, with a 4 + 4 and 8~10 Turn rate ...
Basically, Cryptic totally screwed up, or they just got lazy, and just slapped a couple of consoles and names on a few random ships, in their hurry to have at least 'some' ships for Romulan's ...
A TRUE Science ship. Not just slap an extra couple of Sci consoles on.
A TRUE Carrier. Not just slap a single hangar on.
A TRUE Battlecruiser. Not just slap the name on. (naming it a "Battle Cruiser" doesn't make it one)
It's frustrating, when the only 4 + 4 weapon ship, with a half decent BoFF layout, Console layout, Hull and SPEED, available to Romulan players, is the Risian Luxury Cruiser!
Realistically the Ha'feh should be a 4 + 4 with around an 8~10 Turn Rate.
And the D'ridthau should have received the "Tactical Carrier" retrofit option, and the Ar'Kif Retrofit/Fleet, could have been a second perhaps either more Science, Engineering or Tactical oriented ship, with a 4 + 4 and 8~10 Turn rate ...
Basically, Cryptic totally screwed up, or they just got lazy, and just slapped a couple of consoles and names on a few random ships, in their hurry to have at least 'some' ships for Romulan's ...
no cryptic got scared with the arkif, we asked for a science and got a tactical escort and their sales were non existant, thus they haven't bothered since, sadly...they cant read apparently...yeah whatever
no cryptic got scared with the arkif, we asked for a science and got a tactical escort and their sales were non existant, thus they haven't bothered since, sadly...they cant read apparently...yeah whatever
Well in their defense people did want a t4 tac vessel since they didn't want to be stuck with the DD...then they make a t5 version with a sorta odd boff layout, one that almost requires you to fill it with a Engineer.
People want pew pew...and the only thing that might bring significant damage is a full carrier...which the odds of us seeing are probably pretty slim as much as I'd love one.
We know a BC wouldn't equal the damage of the Scim so we probably wont see one of those and we know Science just can't cut it for damage so they're not in a hurry to make one I imagine...
Sad to say might just be rght...
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
no cryptic got scared with the arkif, we asked for a science and got a tactical escort and their sales were non existant, thus they haven't bothered since, sadly...they cant read apparently...yeah whatever
Sounds familiar...the Borty and the Kar'fi had a somewhat similar fate.
People ask for X, Cryptic gives them Y and then wonders why sales aren't as high as hoped and blames the community.
Sorta like Berman blamed the audience for the bad box office results of "Nemesis".:rolleyes:
Honestly, if I could I'd happily 'trade-in" or even dump the Scimiwhale, if their was a viable Romulan/Reman alternative ...
As I said, it's sad and frustrating that the only ships to call true Battlecruisers, that a Romulan can fly, are cross faction Lobi/Lockbox ships ...
I'm seriously toying with the idea of a Galor, D'Kora, Monbosh, Dromias or Chel Grett, and I may still do that.
At the moment I'm gearing up the RLC, and it's proving to be a remarkably fun and surprisingly powerful ship to fly ... And though I've given it a 'Romulan" colour scheme ... It's just not a Romulan ship!
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There are 2 ships missing until we have suitable tier 5 ships of every type.
One: An in-faction full carrier. We have the Ar'Kif, but it only launches 1 wave of fighters. Meaning if you want interceptor mode (shoot down those pesky heavy undine torpedoes) you don't get attack mode fighters too. There's the Obelisk, but it doesn't have the tactical oomph of the Kar'Fi *or* the science powers of the Atrox or Vo'Quv. The Obelisk's job is really simple: Take damage while dishing out enough to make yourself not completely useless. It does that, but then we come to the other issue with Romulan carriers. It can't launch frigates. The Scimitar can. But you then have to choose between frigates (probably the best at straight dps while not having the numbers to be good at intercepting incoming torpedoes) and fighters (which are really good at shooting down incoming torpedoes and pretty good at DPS). My preferred carrier layout is 1 bay of frigates on offensive mode and 1 bay of fighters on intercept mode. It's impossible, currently, on romulans without buying the Recluse or Jem Dread, which carry their own issues that are neither here nor there.
2: A good tier 5 science vessel. I know, you're all saying "but... dyson/r'mor". Here's the issue: The Dyson classes are really ugly. The Scimitar is Miss America by comparison. I don't know who decided to make a white and blue ship material with that many lattices and holes in it, or why, but I'm not a fan. Also, the gimmick is extremely situational. The thing doesn't have the hull to hold up in tactical mode in a firefight, so you're reduced to hit-and-fade tactics like every other romulan ship is eventually, or you drop tactical mode to get the extra shields back and pray it can dish out enough damage for the Valdore console to save you (it usually can't.) The R'Mor is a reskinned Fed/KDF ship that has a different name (and an exorbitant price tag).
What we need is a battle-cloaking, singularity tray-having, Tier-freakin-5, Intrepid class.
Or, y'know, make the Haakona actually reduce the cost of its parts too.
+1
Another can be implement romulan material on dyson sci destroyer (that white looks to much FED imo) and third a two hangar carrier (f.e. something like D'rithau with hangars)
Though there is probably room for a Rom Repub. Set of ships, something showing thier departure from the past. Obviously it still need to be kept in style of romulans, but still I am sure there could be something there that could be done.
[ Still Waiting for a Shiny New T6 Romulan Science Ship to Command ]
IMO RR Dyson destroyer looks RR/FED and KDF Dyson destroyer looks KDF/FED
I suppose they kind of do, nevero thought about those much, probably because I kind of hate those ships. Probably not with much cause though, I have only the one from the Q event.
[ Still Waiting for a Shiny New T6 Romulan Science Ship to Command ]
This!
My Romulan character made it to 50 and got almost all reputations maxed and the romulan inhouse choices for sci ships are:
Ha'nom
The Ha'nom actually is a real science ship. The problem is, it is a space bus. Huge, ugly, rather tame boff layout. The looks aside, it works for the more defensive minded sci-players though. It pretty much a romulanized Reconnaissance Science Vessel - more crew, size of a planet, turns worse, slightly more hull & shields.
Dyson Destroyer.
The Dyson Destroyer. It got a more offensive bridge layout but pays for its gimmicks (which are all worthless in non-tactical mode) with a lower shield multiplier of 1.375 compared to 1.43+ of regular fleet class sci ships.
The console layouts can be directly compared to the vesta.
It has 0.025 more shield modifier and about 3450 more hull. If the rumors are true and the vesta gets buffed soon, it will probably have almost the same hull.
On top of it the vesta gets special cannons and a hangar.
In the end, the vesta is, unless someone uses the combat-mode of the dyson ship, flat out better.
I can only assume that the reduced shield is to balance the "destroyer"-side of the ship, as a destroyer with commander tac and a 1.357 shield mod is pretty impressive.
Overall i consider the dyson series too gimmicky and those gimmicks are extremely specialized too. Other, non-inhouse ships, can do the same (or better) but without the gimmicks.
If i compare the Dyson destroyer to the Tulwar (same price), it gets utterly ridiculous.
I really would like to see a no frills, science-focused warbird that, while combat themed, is not a space bus, not loaded with gimmicks and still a science ship.
As an example:
Hull: 27,900
Shield Modifier: 1.45
Weapons: Fore 4 Aft 2
Crew: 200 (max!)
Bridge Officers: Commander Sci/Lt. Commander Tac/Lieutenant Eng/Lieutenant Uni/Ensign Uni
Device Slots:3
Consoles: 3 tac/ 2 eng/ 5 sci
Turn Rate:10-15 (not that important)
Bonus Power: +15 auxiliary power
Sensor Analysis & Secondary deflector - no subsystem targeting.
Some might consider the 4/2 weapons layout OP, but since the front-shifted layout seems to come without penalties for ships like mogh/avenger/scimitar, i don't see why an offensive oriented science vessel shouldn't have a shifted weapon layout without drawbacks either.
Tried and failed IMO. It is too gimicky and it looks like it is made out of vines and sticks.
That's me !
Oh! Ha'nom, Dyson destroyer... found them...
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*Compares to Vesta*
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No I can't find science vessels in the Romulan lineup
That's me !
But it's just a weird feeling that can be disregarded.
I don't think that the Romulans will get any ships for a very long time IF they get any. Lockbox ships are worth too much $$$.
Good luck with that. lol
http://www.st-minutiae.com/misc/renaissance/tm/appendix_b.html
It's probably all copyrighted and stuff, so Cryptic probably can't use any of it directly, but gosh darn it, they have some great looking ships, and the "lore" to go with them ...
The Devs at Cryptic could maybe at least get some ideas from that page ...
They all look great, even tough Cryptic can't just copy them, they could take a look for inspiration
Is it really that hard to make a new ship? Copy Avenger/Mogh DNA, give Singularity core and its benefits/drawbacks, take inspiration on fanmade ships and in 1-2 months a new ship is released!
Romulan faction is starting to get boring with all the scimitars 'n tvaros
That's me !
People still dont understand that every "faction" have their own strengths. Science ships is not one of em talking about the Rommies. Period. In fact, non of the romulan ships should have science abilities. NONE. Be happy that you have a few to chose from. I love the way romulans are now, i dont need more ships, because that is what they are. They have warbirds, period. They have the scimitar. Period. And nothing more, keep adding ships everywhere and we will need to change the name from romulans to fedans.
the avenger is the scimitar. Both are "cruisers" and generally identical apart from the standard rom differences (cloak and singularity). What you are asking for is the andorian escort maybe? Regardless, 5 frontals is a rare thing, and if it becomes the norm, sci ships need to upgrade to 4 (already seen in the dyson, so maybe this is inevitable). Still, 5 frontals is a big deal... and not to be asked for lightly unless you just want to add power creep faster.
Ltcmdr+ in all 3 categories is *rare*. Its on a couple of box ships and other special ships, but only a couple of standard cstore/fleet/etc ships have this sort of thing. Ours is the DD.
Ar'kif could be a nice battlecruiser , comparable to the Avenger(530m) , the size would have fit, but some developer decided that the Romulans need a sixth kind of escorts.
The same thing with D'rithau , this ship looks not so bad, so why is she only a skin for D'D? Why she could not be a two hangar carrier modification for D'D?
Overall, I find that when they invented the numbers for the Romulan ships , so they lacked the power of invention.
But I just only oppressing, three ships are really nice : temporals and Daeinos , unfortunately, first two are very rare lock-box ships without sing powers and cloak and the third is a lifetime ship.
So, i still hope in "metric ton of ships" in expansion two. Cruiser or battlecruiser (7-11 turn , 4-4 or 5-3 w.), carrier with two hangar and proper sci romulan ship (or at least romulan green skin on dyson ship).
And to make it fair , KDF should get his 5tac console escort (f.e. Orion raider 5-1 w.) , buff Bortasqu (now shield mod 1 , poor snare and pet ship what dying in first explosion ?) , fleet Guramba, klingon boff with the space trait .
I suggest for FED buff some ships that do little to sell a similar style as it they did with the patrol escort , they really have to make no worries about giving to weaker ships a more powerful consoles - specific ship only, then something strong against cloaks and finally boff with two space traits.
That's because you're coming off play on a very spoiled faction in terms of dev attention.
Sorry if you can't find Rom Vesta.
But the Ha'nom, DSD, are capable science vessels, even if you don't know how to make the most of them.
And that's just sticking to faction science vessels and not even diving into lobi / lockbox ones.
Really shouldn't be diving into the lobi lockbox ones...
And for the message above about Romulans shouldn't have science period....LOL
Romulans are the premier faction when it comes to tech and science breakthroughs....
people should read up a bit more on history before stating something else.
Romulans need....this is need not would be nice at some point during the 9 year anniversary
Proper Romulan Flagship not REMAN
Donatra's ship to be placed back to the MOGAI not a scimitar for the STF /boggle
A science vessel that compares to the vesta in abilities (not talking can equip cannons...talking bout the damn console set) and toss the kdf one while were at it oh great and masterful copy/paste
A pure carrier (feds have the caitian one and of course the KDF has theirs)
by adding just those 4 ships into the game you will see much more diversity than the Tvaro/scimitar fleet we apparently have
(for record I fly my mogai happily)
And this is weird. If you think of Romulans you think of sneaky ways and special abilities to outwit your enemies. They should be the masters of science abilities.
Yeah right not give one of the factions that actually had a science ship onscreen any science abilities, that's a brilliant move.:P
Are you serious? Romulans shouldn't have any Science abilities? I don't know what you've been watching all this years but you should watch the Romulan TNG episodes again. Romulans are not the full frontal attack kind of race the Klingons are. Giving more Science abilities to the Romulans would install the trinity so many Star Trek games have used before. Klingons are fully tactical oriented with strong weapons and heavy hulls, Feds are the balanced ones and Romulan the sneaky scientific ones.
+1
At least , according to one we saw the tv show, the Romulans have a scientific ship (TNG 5x24 The Next Phase) experimenting with phase cloak and at least one science-exploration ship (VOY 1x07 Eye of the Needle) with romulan scientist who was sent back in time and space on Voyager.
Overall, we saw in tv show more cruisers and science romulan ships than a vapescorts as in the game.
A TRUE Science ship. Not just slap an extra couple of Sci consoles on.
A TRUE Carrier. Not just slap a single hangar on.
A TRUE Battlecruiser. Not just slap the name on. (naming it a "Battle Cruiser" doesn't make it one)
It's frustrating, when the only 4 + 4 weapon ship, with a half decent BoFF layout, Console layout, Hull and SPEED, available to Romulan players, is the Risian Luxury Cruiser!
Realistically the Ha'feh should be a 4 + 4 with around an 8~10 Turn Rate.
And the D'ridthau should have received the "Tactical Carrier" retrofit option, and the Ar'Kif Retrofit/Fleet, could have been a second perhaps either more Science, Engineering or Tactical oriented ship, with a 4 + 4 and 8~10 Turn rate ...
Basically, Cryptic totally screwed up, or they just got lazy, and just slapped a couple of consoles and names on a few random ships, in their hurry to have at least 'some' ships for Romulan's ...
no cryptic got scared with the arkif, we asked for a science and got a tactical escort and their sales were non existant, thus they haven't bothered since, sadly...they cant read apparently...yeah whatever
Well in their defense people did want a t4 tac vessel since they didn't want to be stuck with the DD...then they make a t5 version with a sorta odd boff layout, one that almost requires you to fill it with a Engineer.
People want pew pew...and the only thing that might bring significant damage is a full carrier...which the odds of us seeing are probably pretty slim as much as I'd love one.
We know a BC wouldn't equal the damage of the Scim so we probably wont see one of those and we know Science just can't cut it for damage so they're not in a hurry to make one I imagine...
Sad to say might just be rght...
Sounds familiar...the Borty and the Kar'fi had a somewhat similar fate.
People ask for X, Cryptic gives them Y and then wonders why sales aren't as high as hoped and blames the community.
Sorta like Berman blamed the audience for the bad box office results of "Nemesis".:rolleyes:
As I said, it's sad and frustrating that the only ships to call true Battlecruisers, that a Romulan can fly, are cross faction Lobi/Lockbox ships ...
I'm seriously toying with the idea of a Galor, D'Kora, Monbosh, Dromias or Chel Grett, and I may still do that.
At the moment I'm gearing up the RLC, and it's proving to be a remarkably fun and surprisingly powerful ship to fly ... And though I've given it a 'Romulan" colour scheme ... It's just not a Romulan ship!
Hasn't stopped them from pushing a Fed ship out...one that wasn't needed...could of least overhauled a weaker ship...