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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    ssargon wrote: »
    That looks like Half Resolution is on for some reason. If you can find the option in the new graphics settings, see if it's been turned on by the new defaulting feature.

    Oops didn't see these posts before. This fixed it. I had some stuttering at half-res that seemed to go away after taking off cinematic depth of field, if that helps anyone.
  • marvelhero72marvelhero72 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Same problem here, though judging by the number of comments in here it seems it may be an unlucky few ... ?

    Maxed everything and restarted. No better.

    hi all i have been worried re the update as it crashes out after a few minutes , coming up with internal errors, out of memory and other stuff. Is it indeed an issue as i also checked the tribble test and it was awful.

    I have been with sto since beta test 4 years ago and would hate to leave but as already atated the graphics are terrible.
  • kipardkipard Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ok, I finally figured it out. Under the video setting in options there is slider bar for resolution that defaults to something like 50% or something like that. Slide that all the way to full. Then under graphics select default graphics. That should do it for you. You can then tweak a bit better graphics (don't try to get to much, mine went to one bar and I was able to get two) on the graphics page. Looks better than season 8 now.
  • delilahwilddelilahwild Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I appreciate you trying to offer a solution. Unfortunately it does not work for me. 8-bit graphics is an excellent description of the problem.
  • jmoriartiijmoriartii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    If you have an Nvidia GPU you need to remove the fixed profile for STO. To do so download nvidia inspector and delete the "Star Trek Online" profile.
  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I appreciate you trying to offer a solution. Unfortunately it does not work for me. 8-bit graphics is an excellent description of the problem.

    Did you try "/renderscale 1" in chat? I think it's supposed to do the same thing as the slider but you could try that anyway. Try to slide the other bars under the graphics tab to full. Also, turning off cinematic depth of field has helped some. What are your specs btw?
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Did you try "/renderscale 1" in chat? I think it's supposed to do the same thing as the slider but you could try that anyway. Try to slide the other bars under the graphics tab to full. Also, turning off cinematic depth of field has helped some. What are your specs btw?

    I have done all that but which seemed to fix it, but it just goes wonky on it's own for no apparent reason and at random.

    I was doing a mission today and the graphics went down hill, I logged out to see if that would solve it and this is what my character selection screen looks like:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2nbc406/8
  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    decronia wrote: »
    I have done all that but which seemed to fix it, but it just goes wonky on it's own for no apparent reason and at random.

    I was doing a mission today and the graphics went down hill, I logged out to see if that would solve it and this is what my character selection screen looks like:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2nbc406/8

    I had something like that happen as well. All the ship textures vanished and all of the ships shifted to a solid white color. My dual heavy cannon shots turned into small yellow squares and beam array shots looked like they were drawn with Microsoft Paint '98. The map "background" also shifted from solid black, to solid white, to a teal/black "mess" at what appeared to be random intervals.
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    decronia wrote: »
    I have done all that but which seemed to fix it, but it just goes wonky on it's own for no apparent reason and at random.

    I was doing a mission today and the graphics went down hill, I logged out to see if that would solve it and this is what my character selection screen looks like:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2nbc406/8
    I had something like that happen as well. All the ship textures vanished and all of the ships shifted to a solid white color. My dual heavy cannon shots turned into small yellow squares and beam array shots looked like they were drawn with Microsoft Paint '98. The map "background" also shifted from solid black, to solid white, to a teal/black "mess" at what appeared to be random intervals.

    Classic signs of the S8 missing textures bug. This last season update seems to have aggravated it. Try typing the following into your chatbox:
    /tex_memory_unload_threshold 200000000

    You may have to tweak the number in that command. Lower means that the textures will load more often, but may look slightly worse. They know about the bug and have a fix coming. That command was given to us from the dev who found it. You have to type that command in every time you relaunch STO. It doesn't save if you exit the game.
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lan451 wrote: »
    Classic signs of the S8 missing textures bug. This last season update seems to have aggravated it. Try typing the following into your chatbox:



    You may have to tweak the number in that command. Lower means that the textures will load more often, but may look slightly worse. They know about the bug and have a fix coming. That command was given to us from the dev who found it. You have to type that command in every time you relaunch STO. It doesn't save if you exit the game.

    Doesn't help. I log in everything is fine then at random the graphics go funky. For example I logged in a little while ago, everything was fine, until I entered the sphere and then this happened:

    http://tinypic.com/r/23idjr8/8

    As you can see the map is black, and there is a glowing line at the supply depot in the distance. It was fine earlier on.

    This has only been happening to me since S9, before that everything was fine. I have to quite the game to fix it.

    EDIT: Same place after an exit and restarting the game:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2ex4qqc/8

    Then after playing a couple of missions traveling to a couple of sectors and returning to ESD and this is how my bank looks as well:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2m5gmww/8
    Whereas when I logged on it was fine.

    I really hope they get this sorted before the dil weekend or I can see all hell breaking lose more than it is now,
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Did you try lowering the command number? I have to use 100000000 to get it to work. 200000000 does nothing for me.
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lan451 wrote: »
    Did you try lowering the command number? I have to use 100000000 to get it to work. 200000000 does nothing for me.

    I'll give it a go.

    What I don't understand though is why it happens randomly like this. Log in everything is fine then things go wonky that I had no problem with. I could understand if it was a constant thing.

    I know you said there is a fix on the way I just hope it is before the dil weekend or I dread to think what the forum will be like.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I don't know the specifics on how it happens, but it's something with how the game clients are reloading textures, or rather, not loading them properly. If you want, here's the original thread we've been keeping up since S8:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=913941

    Dev posts and all.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It looks to me like the bump mapping and/or normal mapping got ****ed up somehow.
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    What are your specs decronia? Maybe your vram is too low?
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lan451 wrote: »
    Did you try lowering the command number? I have to use 100000000 to get it to work. 200000000 does nothing for me.

    Well that sorted it for me. Thank you.
  • delilahwilddelilahwild Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm playing on a Mac, and am not a techie. Will this work on my platform?

    jmoriartii wrote: »
    If you have an Nvidia GPU you need to remove the fixed profile for STO. To do so download nvidia inspector and delete the "Star Trek Online" profile.
  • techenultimatechenultima Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I have the same problem, graphical problems after season 9 updates, I hope this gets fixed soon. I know it isn't my laptop considering its fairly new and powerful with a good graphics card.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Bump mapping still broken after the update.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I hope that they don't think that chat commands constitute a fix. We already have way too many long ignored bugs going on in this game.
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  • jackrshadejackrshade Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    type in chat window /renderscale 1
    found this on someone elses forum a few months ago after someone messed with my graphics and it worked for me. just remember the space after renderscale.
  • trek507trek507 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That worked for me - Thanks!
  • loading159loading159 Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jackrshade wrote: »
    type in chat window /renderscale 1
    found this on someone elses forum a few months ago after someone messed with my graphics and it worked for me. just remember the space after renderscale.

    what does that command do ?
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    loading159 wrote: »
    what does that command do ?
    It's the same as moving the Renderscale slider in the options to 1.00, what it means is it will divide your resolution by 1, which is full resolution. The command is just a quicker way to do that than opening up options and moving the slider.
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  • nortyfinernortyfiner Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I am having an odd issue since Season 9 started, particularly after the latest maintenance. When I am playing STO, and ONLY when I am playing STO, I am getting frequent (up to several times a minute) "chirps" from my computer that sounds like a fan or the hard drive being addressed, and the graphics will freeze for a moment then stutter onward. This is also happening in parallel with occasional short bursts of "rubberband" lag, which may or may not be connected. The game is still mostly playable, but I am genuinely concerned about what this may be doing to my computer since it's actually making some kind of mechanical noise associated with it.

    Intel i7-3770, nVidia GTX-660Ti video, 16Gb RAM, drivers are up to date. System power definitely isn't the problem.

    As I said, this only happens in STO, which makes me think it's NOT a real hardware issue, but something in the game itself. I don't have this issue in other games or when doing other things.

    Ideas?
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As we said, right now STO graphic performance is really messed up and its possibly that the game is forcing your graphic card too much, or the cpu, who knows. I can tell , that this is my case, i am not in danger, but i checked that my cpu is using more resources (about 10-15% more) than before. My guess is , the videocard is in the same situation, since i can hear the fans at full throttle..
  • th3xr34p3rth3xr34p3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As we said, right now STO graphic performance is really messed up and its possibly that the game is forcing your graphic card too much, or the cpu, who knows. I can tell , that this is my case, i am not in danger, but i checked that my cpu is using more resources (about 10-15% more) than before. My guess is , the videocard is in the same situation, since i can hear the fans at full throttle..


    Depending on the TDP of the card and cpu for each persons build and the cooling they are running at a certain temperature point their cards and cpu will downclock automatically to stop it from over heating and this can cause FPS to drop.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    th3xr34p3r wrote: »
    Depending on the TDP of the card and cpu for each persons build and the cooling they are running at a certain temperature point their cards and cpu will downclock automatically to stop it from over heating and this can cause FPS to drop.

    And thats exactly what i said.. (but with other words lol). :cool:

    Some cards have a higher threshold than other ones. But im pretty sure that the fault is from STO, not the videocard...
  • th3xr34p3rth3xr34p3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    And thats exactly what i said.. (but with other words lol). :cool:

    Some cards have a higher threshold than other ones. But im pretty sure that the fault is from STO, not the videocard...

    heh.. was at work right after a coffee so brain was in tech typing mode, but yes after the main sto graphics updates it is pushing peoples systems more than it should.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I just want the old season 8 graphics back as an option. I've put my resolution up to full and because my pc is low end a radeon 512mb graphics with a dual core processor and 8 gig ram,

    I never had these graphics and sound errors before season 9, now the lag has got me blown up too many times
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