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Commendations are gone? This is NOT a good thing.
darramouss1
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Under the commendation system you could do the ground daily missions once per day, get a commendation and some marks. That would provide you with the resources to slot the daily project and get over 100 marks spare. This meant that by the time you filled a tier you had almost enough marks to buy the piece of space equipment associated with that tier.
Under the new system if you you do a daily mission you get enough to start a daily project plus 25 marks. Using the information provided in Season 9 Dev blog 3, a daily project is worth 2,500 reputation marks. That means 40 daily projects to complete the entire reputation. That means, after you take out the marks used for the daily projects, you will have 40 x 25 marks spare. 1,000 marks. Enough to buy ONE piece of a space set and change left for another.
This means we're behind where we were.
If you played infrequently you could do the daily three or four days in a row (allowing you to slot the daily project during those 3 or 4 days) and then earn enough marks to buy 5 commendations in case you didn't have the time to play for a few days. Under the new system if you do the daily 4 times and you're slotting the daily project you'll be left with 100 marks. Enough to slot daily projects for 3 days, not the 5 we originally had.
I can't believe that commendations are gone and I can't believe that people didn't like it. Separating the currency needed to levelling the reputation and buying equipment was the best thing that happened to the reputation system. I doubt that we'll get it back now. And you will all look back to when the Voth reputation came out and wish it was like it was back then.
Under the new system if you you do a daily mission you get enough to start a daily project plus 25 marks. Using the information provided in Season 9 Dev blog 3, a daily project is worth 2,500 reputation marks. That means 40 daily projects to complete the entire reputation. That means, after you take out the marks used for the daily projects, you will have 40 x 25 marks spare. 1,000 marks. Enough to buy ONE piece of a space set and change left for another.
This means we're behind where we were.
If you played infrequently you could do the daily three or four days in a row (allowing you to slot the daily project during those 3 or 4 days) and then earn enough marks to buy 5 commendations in case you didn't have the time to play for a few days. Under the new system if you do the daily 4 times and you're slotting the daily project you'll be left with 100 marks. Enough to slot daily projects for 3 days, not the 5 we originally had.
I can't believe that commendations are gone and I can't believe that people didn't like it. Separating the currency needed to levelling the reputation and buying equipment was the best thing that happened to the reputation system. I doubt that we'll get it back now. And you will all look back to when the Voth reputation came out and wish it was like it was back then.
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as long as it is easy as the voth one(and most importantly fast), i don't think there will an issue.
The commendations were horrible because they basically forced you to do one mission a day in order to progress, under this system people who do one mission a day actually get more marks while the people who farmed marks on weekends to slot their projects during the week aren't screwed over like before.
Or not...
Depends on how many marks it will be per day for the tier daily.
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I agree. With the bonus marks to cover your daily projects you will be golden for marks to get equipment.
I buy Mk XI for my alts (with few exceptions) and XII is exclusively for my mains.
I'd spend a day or two farming Marks, then just coast for a week or two weeks on projects no problem. Commendations forced me to do one of a specific set of missions each and every day just to get one.
More often than not I found myself blowing 500 marks on the project to get 5 Commendations so I wouldn't have to do a daily.
And a merry freaking Christmas to you too, Ebenezer.
-jonsills, 'Cryptic Why the sales..instead of Fixing XP leveling and this game?'
The Dyson rep is not easier because of the commendations, it's easier because getting marks is way more easier (the sheer volume), because the requirements for the daily tier increase are so less (only one thing really, regardess it being a commendation or whatever), because tier unlock project only needed 5 marks and it completed almost immediately and because there were basic no unlock that required you to spend marks on them. The commendations are absolutely unnecessary.
Removal of non MK XII stores is a good thing. If you want Mk XI for alts there is still the dilithium store. The set peices... for me, if I'm going to spend the time to get MK XI, its not that much more time to go for Mk XII. On several alts I haven't even bothered unlocking the Mk XI stores.
thats why i loved them , thats why i am still saysing they are easier. maybe not for you .. but for me it was. als no i didnt only read the first sentence.
i also read the full dev/season 9 blog and i am still hating the new system. so what now??
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Thing is, I'm a little confussled.
I, too, liked the conveneince of popping on and running a five minute patrol to get my dyson commendation for the day.
Thing is, the proposed change, as i understamd it, changes nothing for me for the worse.
I still pop into the sphere, once a day and run a patrol mission.
Difference is, instead of getting a commendation and ten marks, I get enough marks to start the big and little project at my tier plus ten marks.
That actually means I get more bang for my five minute buck than before....just in a slightly different form.
The grind wasn't grindy enough.
Cryptic dev said so.
this game is just one big timesink and no fun.
So instead of a commendation you now get 55 marks, which is 10 more than daily+hourly requirement combined. for doing the same thing you did before, you dislike it? mmk...
SO doing the daily 4 missions on Dyson ground I get at the moment aproximatly 100 marks and a commendation. The new daily quest will take X marks instead of a commendation HOWEVER, the 20 hour mission will award its current marks PLUS X+20 marks ie enough EXTRA to run the daily rep mission AND one hourly, thus you come away with MORE marks than you do now for the same work.
Guys, imagine that the daily tier increase is 20 marks, and you get 50 for a single mission. Is it not better than having to get a commendation everyday? I mean this way in a day you can get two or three days worth.
But, obviously it will depend as well on how many marks they will define for the daily rep.
marks u can turn in to dill, this is so u have less mark to convert.
and u have to spend more time, gettin marks.
It took me longer to get Commendations than marks. Just ONE day of farming for any other Rep and I was good for days if not weeks depending on how things played out.
Dyson Rep takes me longer than any other rep to level because I can only play at all for three or four days a week at best. So that means I can only get three or four commendations a week, period.
Not as effective, not as good, MORE grinding in my case. I just ended up spending my marks on commendations so I could continue the darn thing.
And a merry freaking Christmas to you too, Ebenezer.
-jonsills, 'Cryptic Why the sales..instead of Fixing XP leveling and this game?'
Do you understand that you get a bonus of additional reputation marks for your first mission that allows you to start the daily and the hourly reputation project, in addition to whatever you normally would have gotten?
The loss of the commendation currency takes nothing away from you on your quest to advance your reputation. The other changes also mean that you'll stop needing to waste your inventory and EC on consumables and commodities to fuel reputation projects. ANd you don't have to buy store unlocks. And you get an item with every reputation project you start.
Say, you're grinding Dyson. You log in, get into the Dyson Zone, contact Dyson Command for a quick mission which will grant you 10 Dyson Marks + additonal marks worth one daily and one hourly, and log off.
what? no.
before: you get 1 commedation worth 2500xp.
after: you get 55 marks, 30 into daily for 2500xp, leaves you a net +25 marks.
FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK!
BUT since a setup like that would work to our advantage i doubt that will happen, the 55 marks thing they are talking about is most likely going to end up as the reward for the first played "event" mission from the PvE queues of a specific reputation which means it will take up to 20 minutes or more depending on the mission you queued for and the state of your team and this would be a bad change.
so i guess it's time to start afking XD
/joking of course
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Cold as moonlight
Terrible as the sun
The Dyson rep they tried to make it grindier, but with the rate marks dropped in the Battlezone you could get a week's worth in under an hour (and cap your dil besides), then just click through once a day. Again, you played when you wanted to, when it was convenient, only had to log in to process stuff.
This new way....we'll see. Given stated desires to make the game more grind though, more requiring you truly play every day (turning it into a chore), I don't trust their intentions. We'll see, but I'm sure not cheering anything on just yet.
...Coming from FFXI this game is a breeze in terms of grinding and time sink... at least STO doesn't have things that take hours to kill... lol
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THIS! same thoughts here. thats why i think the commendations were easy, i also doubt it will be the same mission.
exactly that's my point. normally mark specific missions are longer. like in MU currently i have now to at least make it 1 hour daily for all the alts and the main toon. just to get the MU reward.
the commendation was easy as 1 commendation filled one rep project.. done nothing more nothing less. if now for whatever reason... i have one mark less for the project i cannot start and have to make another mark mission.
thing cryptic change tend to go nuts in holodeck. i still think that it would have been an easier way for casual and hardcore players to make the rep system when all reps where with commendations.
its now exactly as it was before? they didnt mention that the other reps will be changed to EC instead of commodities did they?
the commendations were fun and fastly done in a quick way. if it works with you get more than enough marks for one run to fill two projects the large one and the small one than i am fine with it.. but i doubt that will work the way in a fast mission. borg Estfs also need (when being pugged) approx 12-15 mins each and you get 70-110 marks. that is enough but welll it takes time. time that i dont always have. and the commendation missions where fast. and you could make your rep grind a eaasy 7 minute thing and go offline again... with various alt toons and the main it took over all 30 minutes.
now it will be again for each toon approx 15 minutes. if not more as i doubt they will make it easier to get such a large amount of marks in a short mission. so i wont be able to rep all toons at the same time during the week.. you do now understand where i am coming from?? or is my point still not understandable?
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maybe not ,.. it will not be the super easy 3 minute mission.. to get 55 marks..
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