New BOff seating The Galaxy Dreadnoughts Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign
Universal BOff seat.
Hangar Bay The Galaxy Dreadnought will now have one Hangar Bay Slot, equipped by default with Type 8 Shuttles. It can equip any standard Federation hanger pet.
Saucer Separation The Galaxy Dreadnought will finally support Saucer Separation. The Galaxy Dreadnought does not come with the Saucer Separation Console, but if you own one, you can now use it on the Dreadnought. The separated Saucer pet of a Galaxy Dreadnought has a more tactical flavor than the standard Galaxy Saucer pet. It is equipped with Dual Phaser Cannons, and a mini-Phaser Lance.
Phaser Lance Wide Beam When the Saucer is separated, the Galaxy Dreadnoughts Phaser Lance standard beam becomes a Wide Beam attack (like a sawed-off shotgun). Damage is only slightly reduced, but the affect area is much larger.
All existing Galaxy Dreadnoughts will be automatically fixed-up; however, you will not be automatically granted a Type 8 shuttle pet. You can either purchase one in the Hangar Pet store for Energy Credits, or dismiss your Dreadnought and reclaim a new one which will be fully outfitted with a Type 8 shuttle.
Set Bonus The Antimatter Spread Console and Saucer Separation console will enjoy a 2 piece set bonus. Equipping both on a ship will grant you:
+20 Starship Starship Hull Plating skill
+20 Starship Armor Reinforcement skill
+1 Turn Rate bonus
Refit stays the same, but Antimatter (T4) and Separation (T5) get a Bonus now.
You could have summarized the entire dreadnought portion with: "Dreadnought has a hangar, all the significant changes to bring it line with other dreadnoughts were saved for an unnecessary fleet version."
You could have summarized the entire dreadnought portion with: "Dreadnought has a hangar, all the significant changes to bring it line with other dreadnoughts were saved for an unnecessary fleet version."
Just logged into Tribble to see it. Was really annoyed to see the galaxy skin still has an off centre lance. The fact they must have needed to edit the model to chop off the lance for saucer sep and didn't correct it, just bloody lazy and inexcusable. Also, when separated the stardrive lance bit looks like a plain texture and doesn't even look like a firing point. Shuttles don't spawn out of the main hanger in the saucer but out of the third nacelle. I know it has a grid pattern but I don't think that's a shuttle bay! Overall, it sucks. Zero effort put into it.
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What about Refit and Retrofit ? Case if they are just changing the Saucer Separation on these two then i dont think its ok to call it "Galaxy Class Reboot" when its all Dreadnaught lol...
Judging by these stats I'd say Cryptic basically made the Gal-X THE "ultimate" (lol) Galaxy. As in, "get the Venture for the skin and the console, get the Refit for the Saucer Sep, and put it on all the Gal-X to get all the shinies on one superior ship, as the rest is irrelevant".
Seriously, although the boff layout is still a joke for something called a "Dreadnought", it's still way superior to Gal-R in nearly every regard (Lance, Cannons, Hangar, 4 Tac consoles, Ensign Uni), with the only (minor) tradeoff being two comm array powers, basically.
Judging by these stats I'd say Cryptic basically made the Gal-X THE "ultimate" (lol) Galaxy. As in, "get the Venture for the skin and the console, get the Refit for the Saucer Sep, and put it on all the Gal-X to get all the shinies on one superior ship, as the rest is irrelevant".
Seriously, although the boff layout is still a joke for something called a "Dreadnought", it's still way superior to Gal-R in nearly every regard (Lance, Cannons, Hangar, 4 Tac consoles, Ensign Uni), with the only (minor) tradeoff being two comm array powers, basically.
Ok, it seems that some dev has said that the Galaxy should not be as powerful as the Sovereign.
Well the Galaxy, yes.
But what about the Fleet Exploration Cruiser Retrofit. That's a Galaxy, retrofitted and with Fleet tech upgrade.
It's not supposed to be as powerful as a vanilla standard Sovereign?
That does not make sense. Not at all.
Look at other old cruisers. Ambassador? Excelsior? Heck, even the Fleet Cheyenne has more tactical prowess.
I mean, yes, the reasoning behind it seems pretty clear to me, though. The ship classes are supposed to be as unique and different as possible. With those limited boff station and console slots, it's not easy not to create copies.
But what about this layout? Lt.Cmd Tac Cmd. Eng
Lt. Eng Lt. Sci.
Ens. Sci
This would be unique. No other cruiser has it. Not even the Odyssey with it's universal stations. Yes, a great layout actually. Something worth buying. Something that would offset that horrible turnrate.
Still the Sovereign Refit, aka Assault Cruiser Refit, would be more 'powerful', tac-wise. Still all other 'old' cruisers would turn better. Still the Odyssey would have more shields, better Slipstream, more universal stations, better special consoles.
It would meet all requirements, wouldn't it?
Increase the price to 2500 Zen if necessary. I would even buy it again. Or reserve that station distribution for the fleet version and charge 5 fleet modules.
PS: I would've proposed Lt.+Ens. Tac, but that's really impossible to construct in a unique way.
As for the Gal-X, it should receive a Lt. Tac and a Lt.Cmd Tac accordingly. Which would also be unique, if you don't count the Odyssey's uni stations. That's the problem with universal stations, they narrow and restrict the possibilities for new designs and layouts.
This was what I was talking about. Geko is way too prideful to admit error. It's always his way or the highway. Well that guy is just a punk. I hate sounding like a jerk whenever I say this but it can't be more justified.
Geko turns STO ships into TRIBBLE. He either overdoes it and is unappologetic or he rolls out these obvious 2-star ships. He should be held accountable.
Make no mistake.. He knows we're all asking for lt cmdr.. He's just a joke prideful sycophant.
This was what I was talking about. Geko is way too prideful to admit error. It's always his way or the highway. Well that guy is just a punk. I hate sounding like a jerk whenever I say this but it can't be more justified.
Geko turns STO ships into TRIBBLE. He either overdoes it and is unappologetic or he rolls out these obvious 2-star ships. He should be held accountable.
Make no mistake.. He knows we're all asking for lt cmdr.. He's just a joke prideful sycophant.
All of this serves to remind me how much I dislike having an innate feature of the Galaxy, saucer separation, relegated to a console.
Saucer separation is kind of its thing. Birds-of-prey can cloak and Galaxy-class ships can separate and reconnect (when budget and story-telling allowed.)
But that's an old argument for it and the MVAM console that were lost and forgotten a long time ago.
This was what I was talking about. Geko is way too prideful to admit error. It's always his way or the highway. Well that guy is just a punk. I hate sounding like a jerk whenever I say this but it can't be more justified.
Geko turns STO ships into TRIBBLE. He either overdoes it and is unappologetic or he rolls out these obvious 2-star ships. He should be held accountable.
Make no mistake.. He knows we're all asking for lt cmdr.. He's just a joke prideful sycophant.
So tired of this guy, fire him already Steve.
For once I agree, this is a free to play game which means making TRIBBLE people want to buy.... not making subpar TRIBBLE and hoping for the best.
Question. You guys have the TNG sale going on. Is the bundle going to be 4000zen, or is it gonna be 20% off of that making it 3200zen?
Or is the Galaxy Bundle gonna go up to 5000 when the sale is over?
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
Way back when it was first released I had to strain family relations to get 5 referrals to get this ship. The game was a train wreck back then.
At the time it was an awesome ship, but thus began the PvPr's QQKlub and Cryptic's ongoing mistake of listening to them.
So this once great ship was nerfed.
Then they gave them to everybody after yet more forum QQ.
So this bundle here? You are getting off light.
That said I went into the Spacedock and made sure my old Galaxy X was properly configured with the 2 piece bonus and equipment using the new selection system.
I'm still flying my store bought 9 pack of Dyson ships however.
Way back when it was first released I had to strain family relations to get 5 referrals to get this ship. The game was a train wreck back then.
At the time it was an awesome ship, but thus began the PvPr's QQKlub and Cryptic's ongoing mistake of listening to them.
So this once great ship was nerfed.
Then they gave them to everybody after yet more forum QQ.
So this bundle here? You are getting off light.
That said I went into the Spacedock and made sure my old Galaxy X was properly configured with the 2 piece bonus and equipment using the new selection system.
I'm still flying my store bought 9 pack of Dyson ships however.
Going back into the 2010 history of the Dreadnaught Cruiser on the wiki, it turns out that the original configuration was a Commander Engineering. LtCdr Engineering, Ens Tactical, and Lt Sci, Lt, Eng, and Lt Tac.
So they've dropped the Lt engineer and replaced the ens tac with an ens universal. I'm not sure if it was nerfed or a victim of the times.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
H'mmm. Good for the dread, brings it at least a bit closer to real battlecruiser stats.
I will say this: The dreadnought series is now sort of close to par with the regent and fleet regent, with maybe a little over-focus on eng. The hangar bay should make this a...creative ship to use. Yellowstone runabouts would be my pet of choice.
It's still underpowered, and definitely not a dreadnought like the Scimitar, and the Gal-R is still a joke, but at least the Gal-X should be able to run a decent battlecruiser beam-boat build, if you use EP2W a lot.
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But ye ... Sound like its not a real reboot to me
No additional info in here, about 98% complains. 1% replied to the wrong thread and 1% have no issues with the revamp
But just like a train wreck or a pile-up during a NASCAR race, you just can't look away as the debris keeps flying.
Yup. Pretty much the same reply ratio to every thread in every forum ever.
:P
You could have summarized the entire dreadnought portion with: "Dreadnought has a hangar, all the significant changes to bring it line with other dreadnoughts were saved for an unnecessary fleet version."
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Copy & paste was easier and faster
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dev replied to the tribble notes thread basically saying "deal with it." it's a shame too, there are a lot of good suggestions.
oh, the dev thought that everyone was asking for a cmdr tac seat. lol.
Seriously, although the boff layout is still a joke for something called a "Dreadnought", it's still way superior to Gal-R in nearly every regard (Lance, Cannons, Hangar, 4 Tac consoles, Ensign Uni), with the only (minor) tradeoff being two comm array powers, basically.
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Except the Gal-X is irrelevant as well...
Well the Galaxy, yes.
But what about the Fleet Exploration Cruiser Retrofit. That's a Galaxy, retrofitted and with Fleet tech upgrade.
It's not supposed to be as powerful as a vanilla standard Sovereign?
That does not make sense. Not at all.
Look at other old cruisers. Ambassador? Excelsior? Heck, even the Fleet Cheyenne has more tactical prowess.
I mean, yes, the reasoning behind it seems pretty clear to me, though. The ship classes are supposed to be as unique and different as possible. With those limited boff station and console slots, it's not easy not to create copies.
But what about this layout?
Lt.Cmd Tac
Cmd. Eng
Lt. Eng
Lt. Sci.
Ens. Sci
This would be unique. No other cruiser has it. Not even the Odyssey with it's universal stations. Yes, a great layout actually. Something worth buying. Something that would offset that horrible turnrate.
Still the Sovereign Refit, aka Assault Cruiser Refit, would be more 'powerful', tac-wise. Still all other 'old' cruisers would turn better. Still the Odyssey would have more shields, better Slipstream, more universal stations, better special consoles.
It would meet all requirements, wouldn't it?
Increase the price to 2500 Zen if necessary. I would even buy it again. Or reserve that station distribution for the fleet version and charge 5 fleet modules.
PS: I would've proposed Lt.+Ens. Tac, but that's really impossible to construct in a unique way.
As for the Gal-X, it should receive a Lt. Tac and a Lt.Cmd Tac accordingly. Which would also be unique, if you don't count the Odyssey's uni stations. That's the problem with universal stations, they narrow and restrict the possibilities for new designs and layouts.
Geko turns STO ships into TRIBBLE. He either overdoes it and is unappologetic or he rolls out these obvious 2-star ships. He should be held accountable.
Make no mistake.. He knows we're all asking for lt cmdr.. He's just a joke prideful sycophant.
So tired of this guy, fire him already Steve.
What love?
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Must say i kinda agree on this ye.
But two star ships ?
You would actually give these ships TWO stars ?
It's a good thing Cryptic doesn't allow images to be posted on these forums.
You'd currently see a lot of clapping gifs from the TNG crew.
Saucer separation is kind of its thing. Birds-of-prey can cloak and Galaxy-class ships can separate and reconnect (when budget and story-telling allowed.)
But that's an old argument for it and the MVAM console that were lost and forgotten a long time ago.
For once I agree, this is a free to play game which means making TRIBBLE people want to buy.... not making subpar TRIBBLE and hoping for the best.
this guy needs to be canned.
As is they are just a fun gimmick.
Or is the Galaxy Bundle gonna go up to 5000 when the sale is over?
bundle: 4000z
now till monday: 3200z
after monday: 4000z
Way back when it was first released I had to strain family relations to get 5 referrals to get this ship. The game was a train wreck back then.
At the time it was an awesome ship, but thus began the PvPr's QQKlub and Cryptic's ongoing mistake of listening to them.
So this once great ship was nerfed.
Then they gave them to everybody after yet more forum QQ.
So this bundle here? You are getting off light.
That said I went into the Spacedock and made sure my old Galaxy X was properly configured with the 2 piece bonus and equipment using the new selection system.
I'm still flying my store bought 9 pack of Dyson ships however.
Going back into the 2010 history of the Dreadnaught Cruiser on the wiki, it turns out that the original configuration was a Commander Engineering. LtCdr Engineering, Ens Tactical, and Lt Sci, Lt, Eng, and Lt Tac.
So they've dropped the Lt engineer and replaced the ens tac with an ens universal. I'm not sure if it was nerfed or a victim of the times.
The 2 Piece Console Set Bonus grants a +2 Turn rate, not the previously mentioned +1
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They stay at +1
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H'mmm. Good for the dread, brings it at least a bit closer to real battlecruiser stats.
I will say this: The dreadnought series is now sort of close to par with the regent and fleet regent, with maybe a little over-focus on eng. The hangar bay should make this a...creative ship to use. Yellowstone runabouts would be my pet of choice.
It's still underpowered, and definitely not a dreadnought like the Scimitar, and the Gal-R is still a joke, but at least the Gal-X should be able to run a decent battlecruiser beam-boat build, if you use EP2W a lot.