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Season 8 Dev Blog #54: Galaxy Class Reboot

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  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Then change the channel and watch something else. :P

    yeah its like with the ST shows, no matter how often you've seen them, at some point you just go back to it and watch it again
  • kortaagkortaag Member Posts: 525
    edited March 2014
    Then change the channel and watch something else. :P

    We should all walk behind that guy and pick up all the money he likes to throw away.
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  • captainkeatzcaptainkeatz Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited March 2014
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    So, Cryptic has chosen to ignore us, once again.
    Fleet Dreadnought Cruiser

    The Dreadnought Cruiser is not your typical Federation starship. Designed specifically to fight the impending war with the Klingons, she is built for battle.


    Cryptic, do you even listen to yourself? We should take that quote and spam their twitters with it until they block us.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Fleet Dreadnought Cruiser

    The Dreadnought Cruiser is not your typical Federation starship. Designed specifically to offer itself up as cannon fodder in the impending war with the Klingons, she is built for a quick death.


    Cryptic, do you even listen to yourself? We should take that quote and spam their twitters with it until they block us.

    I fixed it for you.. ;)
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    So, I hear Lance is still broken (= hopelessly inaccurate). Shame on you, Cryptic, if it's true.
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  • leveslylevesly Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If they haven't even bothered to fix the graphical glitch on the Galaxy Saucer and centre the Lance then Cryptic really have not listened to feedback
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Did you honestly expect otherwise? To my knowledge they have never admitted it is broken or deficient in any way. Cryptic very seldom if ever admit they make mistakes, they ignore 6000 + posts on what's wrong with the Galaxy ships, they give us this BS of a reboot and expect us to pay money for it, LMFAO, they must think we are a sandwich short of a picnic!

    Yeah, naive me, I thought that if they were willing to spend so much time on new separation sequence, that, somewhere along the line, a dev might have spared 5 mins to fix the Lance too.

    Guess not.
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  • kortaagkortaag Member Posts: 525
    edited March 2014
    levesly wrote: »
    If they haven't even bothered to fix the graphical glitch on the Galaxy Saucer and centre the Lance then Cryptic really have not listened to feedback

    I think it's because Geko is too prideful. He spent.. 4? 5? podcasts defending his naked dinos with laser heads. Regardless of that product it just shows he's adamantly unwilling to cater to customers. Even though I hate sounding like a jerk, if this gets released as-is.. My feedback is to send him to some other project and never touch STO again.

    Thousands of posts reporting the lance is useless.. how could he not know?
    May good management be with you.
  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    they really start to making me angry about something i never thought i could get angry that much about...

    just like a ten years old child, holding other ones piece of cake: "mine, mine. u get nothing, cause i'm right". one just wants to hit some fingers :mad:
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Though I do so wish that they'd stop claiming that they listen to our feedback.

    But that just sounds sooo goood ... .

    But you know what ? Maybe it's just us ... .

    Hello ?

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    Gecko ?

    Not Taco ?

    Testing ... 1,2,3 ?

    Anyone ??

    Dreadnought ?

    Dred Not ?!

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  • areikou#8990 areikou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've heard reports that the lance's accuracy is fixed on tribble. Possibly 100% hit rate. However the damage is now 7500x2.

    Here is what I dont get. Weve been told that the forum makes up a small amount of people giving feedback for sto. But...where are the rest? Its not on fb, twitter, or even in game. The sheer amount of people giving feedback here far outstrips anywhere else.

    So where does the rest of the magic feedback saying this kind of TRIBBLE is ok to do?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've heard reports that the lance's accuracy is fixed on tribble. Possibly 100% hit rate.

    Just went on Tribble; Galaxy bundle can't be found there. :(
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Yeah, naive me, I thought that if they were willing to spend so much time on new separation sequence, that, somewhere along the line, a dev might have spared 5 mins to fix the Lance too.

    Guess not.

    For the last time , there is NOTHING WRONG with the lance !!!

    - We'll see you lazy whiners in game !
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  • ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Deep down I knew they'd not do anything for the fleet version. Bitterly disappointed Cryptic, you had an opportunity to shine but your own stubbornness has cost you dearly. Think I just reached my tether when it comes to supporting STO financially.

    ...just pre-ordered the Imperial Edition of Elder Scrolls Online. Have fun with your half-arsed "bundles" and grinds, I'm done.

    (Btw I thoroughly recommend you guys trying the Armada III mod for Sins: Rebellion. The quality much surpasses what Cryptic has offered in four years. Hell they even got the charge up effect for beams plus voice overs for Kern etc).
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  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i must say its really painful to read most of their comments. Mostly it takes hundrets of thread pages in multiple thread to get an answer of someone and then its like totally completely false and just makes me wanna rage even more..

    borticus postet that all ship with cc have com eng where the tal shiar bc has them and a uni com and he kind of overread the part where 90% where simply asking for a ltc tac...

    they can take their f-ing still bugging gal-set and do whatever, i'm not flying that thing
  • arcjetarcjet Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Here is what I dont get. Weve been told that the forum makes up a small amount of people giving feedback for sto. But...where are the rest? Its not on fb, twitter, or even in game. The sheer amount of people giving feedback here far outstrips anywhere else.

    So where does the rest of the magic feedback saying this kind of TRIBBLE is ok to do?

    That's the magic silent majority some devs/publishers conveniently whip out every time they need an argument not to work on something the players want, or to push through a change the players don't want.
  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i must say its really painful to read most of their comments. Mostly it takes hundrets of thread pages in multiple thread to get an answer of someone and then its like totally completely false and just makes me wanna rage even more..

    borticus postet that all ship with cc have com eng where the tal shiar bc has them and a uni com and he kind of overread the part where 90% where simply asking for a ltc tac...

    they can take their f-ing still bugging gal-set and do whatever, i'm not flying that thing

    ...i'd be even fine with a lt uni...
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    wast33 wrote: »
    ...i'd be even fine with a lt uni...

    yeah maybe me too^^ but the point i was making was just that after thousands of posts of feedback we get an answer stating something thats completely wrong and its fairly obvious that he maybe read 2-3 posts and just answered toward the minimal number of ppl asking for a com tac.


    i know most ppl will be satisfied with a ltc tac but the simple thing for me is i have multiple ships like that, namely fleet excelsior and fleet avenger and fleet souvereign or whats its called.

    I want the gal x with its usual fleet stats as is but with a com tac com eng com sci. I know thats quite powercreepy but so is the scim. Only 3 tac consoles no bc no 5/3 no elite pets and only 3 bo-traits should basically balance the power creep of the galx and the scim if compared. Its like the roms get a ship thats awesome and the federation counters with a modest ship but a very skilled crew. I dont really need another ltc tac cruiser with worse turnrate and a lace that doesnt work and forces me to use phaser. there is simply no fun to be had with that ship the excelsior or other fed cruisers dont already provide.
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  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ...some of the oldest ships ingame.... brought in line.... *facepalm*
  • evilbsg62evilbsg62 Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    its missing phaser strips on the nacelles and also missing its torpedo rollbar assembly behind the bridge.
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  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    lol dint think about that, maybe its a scim refit we got on the c-store^^

    the simple truth is that we're already at a point where the usual setup for ships:

    -sci : weak hull, strong shields, com sci + ltc/lt sci boff layout, 4-5 sci consoles
    -eng: strong hull, medium shields, com eng + ltc/lt eng layout, 4-5 eng consoles
    -tac: weak hull, weak shields, com tac + ltc/lt tac layout, 4-5 tac consoles


    is basically over-saturated. Some lobi ships offer a slight modifications like the elachi sci-escort like thing or the new dyson ship in escort mode or the recluse for example. But bascially if you have on of these the only reason to get other ships would be for minimal modifications in boff layout, shield/hull stats and maybe +/- 1-2 turnrate.

    The main argument for all that is presumably balance but the content doesnt provide ample need for all kinds of ships/captain-combinations and well there is the scim. I dont want another one fed side, just that the fed dread is comparable by other means of power creep as in much better boff layout with 3 coms. I wouldnt mind them putting it as mirror version in the lobi store whatever just do it so i can have fun with loads and loads of new build that this kind of layout offers.
  • igorche81igorche81 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well, I think I should give my opinion and join many others. First of all, I love and I own a GalX. I also love Galaxy class in general but I never used them. T4 Galaxy is slow moving, slow turning and generally one piece of TRIBBLE of a ship. And Galaxy Dread is even worse. Lance always misses target. Even the bloody Borg Cube!?! Turn rate is a disaster, using cannons is a VERY bad idea and you can't even use aux2bat properly. Ship is crappy and with all the updates I've seen it's not gonna get much better. Having a hangar fitted to Ar'kif ruined the ship for me, and I think same will happen for GalX. And what is that stupid thing with ens-tac boff slot change to ens-uni? Why? It was already tac people! Nobody's going to use it for eng or sci. Anyone playing STO knows that GalX is a noob ship. You are branded NOOB if you take your Galaxy Dreadnought for a spin. People sending me "NOOB!!!:-))))))" pm's almost every time I'm in the ship. It's not funny anymore. I have the ship long, long time but I only used it for 2-3 days until friend told me about noob branding and all. And a ship is a disaster really. Now I can survive in Elite STF's but then... Man, I was dying all the time. Unless turn rate is increased and Lance becomes more accurate, and Probably switch between eng-tac to com-tac happens, ship will always be a crappy bucket of nuts and bolts. That's my opinion. As I can remember, In TNG that ship did not had a Hangar bay so I hope guys in cryptic change their minds about adding one. That's all I have to say.
  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I officially give up. Cant say we didnt warn them.

    I almost hope for a mirror Galaxy with the next lockbox. Wouldnt be fleet level but if it has even one less ensign eng it would be superior to the fleet version.
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  • darksharkulladarksharkulla Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sooo ive been reading the blog and trying to find out what are the exact changes on the three ships in question ?

    Galaxy Retrofit gets the improved saucer section only and the rest ?

    Dreadnaught ?

    Refit ?
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sooo ive been reading the blog and trying to find out what are the exact changes on the three ships in question ?

    Galaxy Retrofit gets the improved saucer section only and the rest ?

    Dreadnaught ?

    Refit ?

    From the Blog:

    New BOff seating – The Galaxy Dreadnought’s Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign
    Universal BOff seat.

    Hangar Bay – The Galaxy Dreadnought will now have one Hangar Bay Slot, equipped by default with Type 8 Shuttles. It can equip any standard Federation hanger pet.

    Saucer Separation – The Galaxy Dreadnought will finally support Saucer Separation. The Galaxy Dreadnought does not come with the Saucer Separation Console, but if you own one, you can now use it on the Dreadnought. The separated Saucer pet of a Galaxy Dreadnought has a more tactical flavor than the standard Galaxy Saucer pet. It is equipped with Dual Phaser Cannons, and a mini-Phaser Lance.

    Phaser Lance Wide Beam – When the Saucer is separated, the Galaxy Dreadnought’s Phaser Lance standard beam becomes a Wide Beam attack (like a sawed-off shotgun). Damage is only slightly reduced, but the affect area is much larger.

    All existing Galaxy Dreadnoughts will be automatically fixed-up; however, you will not be automatically granted a Type 8 shuttle pet. You can either purchase one in the Hangar Pet store for Energy Credits, or dismiss your Dreadnought and reclaim a new one which will be fully outfitted with a Type 8 shuttle.


    Set Bonus – The Antimatter Spread Console and Saucer Separation console will enjoy a 2 piece set bonus. Equipping both on a ship will grant you:
    +20 Starship Starship Hull Plating skill
    +20 Starship Armor Reinforcement skill
    +1 Turn Rate bonus

    Refit stays the same, but Antimatter (T4) and Separation (T5) get a Bonus now.
  • darksharkulladarksharkulla Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ye all Dreadnaught.

    What about Refit and Retrofit ? Case if they are just changing the Saucer Separation on these two then i dont think its ok to call it "Galaxy Class Reboot" when its all Dreadnaught lol...
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ye all Dreadnaught.

    What about Refit and Retrofit ? Case if they are just changing the Saucer Separation on these two then i dont think its ok to call it "Galaxy Class Reboot" when its all Dreadnaught lol...

    Ahmmm... A few people asked the same thing in this thread. It is over 80 pages. Feel free to browse through. I can't give you any more infos that you haven't read already in the Blog.
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