See what you've wrought devs? 74 pages of rage and counting
I think you're missing that a good portion of those 74 pages are suggestions and thanks for revising the Galaxy's. The actual rage portion is rather limited to those who either wouldn't be satisfied without a complete change of the Galaxy from an Engineering captain's specialist ship to a Tactical captain's super-battleship, or who want to use the topic as a springboard for their own pet peeves.
There have been some good suggestions and some not-so-good, but I've only seen a few people who are complaining that Cryptic is making a mistake in revising the ships (as opposed to how to revise them).
what would be really cool (and what i think they should add to all separating ships) is changing the boff seating when you switch and depending on what section you command
makes perfect sense, especially on the galaxy imo, seeing how its stardrive was supposed to go into combat situations.
makes perfect sense, especially on the galaxy imo, seeing how its stardrive was supposed to go into combat situations.
u sir just won this thread ...seriously: almost 5 days of nerd-rage (me included i guess :rolleyes:) i think no one dropped that simple and canon point. thank u very much .
Don't we have fewer forward weapons then? Missing some Beam stripes then.
it only looses the strip under the saucer, no big deal though since there's on under the engineering section, not to mention the dominion war era galaxy was supposed to have been upgraded with better armour and additional phaser strips on the engines.
also seeing as the secondary bridge is called the "battle" bridge
Darn it I hate Logic :P
Has its already been said the Dyson tech would work wonders for both the Galaxy R and X but the problem is that is that both vessels would need at least a Lt. Commander Tactical station to swap out to Commander Tactical and down grade the Commander Engineering Station to a Lt. Commander Engineering Station.
Some forum goers are holding out hope that the Fleet X will have some of the things that we've been suggesting like the Lt. Commander Tactical Station but has much has I'd like to believe that it may possible, Cryptic's track record does not instill me with the with the utmost of confidence that this will be the case.
But yeah Battle Bridge..... I can't believe that I missed that
it only looses the strip under the saucer, no big deal though since there's on under the engineering section, not to mention the dominion war era galaxy was supposed to have been upgraded with better armour and additional phaser strips on the engines.
Hmmmmmm... And the Saucer would gain science abilities through an unlockable secondary Deflector?
This, plus a Hangar Bay in the Saucer filled with Typ-10 Shuttles and Deltas.... Shoving them down a Borg Cube's throught and beating the TRIBBLE out of them with Gravity Well and Tykens Rift while I drain the shields with Plasmonic Leech and Advanced Flow Capacitors, and Rapid Fire Transphasic Torpedos are crashing in their behinds and all Borg are like "Help! Help!!" and I just so "Diiieee! Diiieeee!"
It would be nice to have the battle bridge from TNG added to the c-store. It didn't have science or engineering stations, but it would be nice to use for smaller ships, or a Galaxy class if you desire.
Didn't they? Cause I think they did, eventually. It just took longer for them to comprehend that. The Galaxy Class was at the heart of every fleet we saw fighting the Dominion.
Or are you talking about that one isolated incident when they used the advantage of knowing the enemy due to infiltartion and knew that Starfleet shields won't protect the ship? Yeah, you can put every other ship in the place of the U.S.S. Odyssey and it would have played out exatly the same. Even the producers said so, confirming that even if it was the Enterprise-D with the hero crew, it would've went down in that situation.
Besides we're talking about a faction that is found in a very distant part of the galaxy, a faction noone had any previous knowledge on, a faction solely dominating the biggest part of an entire quadrant and a faction found by shapeshifters that see all 'solid' lifeforms as a threat that either has to be neutered or exterminated.
Did you expect them to get the memo instantly?
Any ship getting rammed like the U.S.S Galaxy did, wouldn't have fared any better. I wasn't referring to any one specific event necessarily, but the overall attitude of the Dominion.
Specifically though, remember that huge fleet of Dominion warships that never made it through the wormhole (DS9: Sacrifice of Angels)? Sisko browbeat the Prophets of Bajor into being useful, and they made that whole fleet vanish. I am not saying the Galaxy class ships in the fight to reach DS9 and save the minefield didn't make a good accounting of themselves, but without the Klingons, the Dominion fleet would probably have won. Because of the strategic limitation of needing to reach the minefield before it was destroyed, the Federation fleet was forced to fight on the Dominion's terms. If that huge fleet had managed to get through the wormhole, it would have rolled right over the Federation without slowing down. That's what I was alluding to. The Dominion's military might at that time was such that they were very confident that they could deal with anything the Federation could possibly throw at them. It was the Federation's effective control of the Wormhole through Sisko and the addition of Klingon forces that were greater deciding factors (and D9's recurring role of speedbump for any ship coming out through the wormhole once it was under Federation control), over any particular ships the Federation had.
I wasn't denouncing the class. It's that, in my view, the Dominion wasn't any more awed or impressed by the Galaxy class than they were by any other ship from the Alpha Quadrant. Strategic view over tactical view. The Dominion might have thought that individually the Galaxy was impressive, but against the backdrop of their war machine, they were insignificant. It was only when that war machine was ground down that any concerns over individual ship or class capabilities would have been taken into account.
I should have stated that instead of being snarky.
it only looses the strip under the saucer, no big deal though since there's on under the engineering section, not to mention the dominion war era galaxy was supposed to have been upgraded with better armour and additional phaser strips on the engines.
see with the reboot they could of added the G-x nacelles to the G-R so we could get the dominion war era look
Or we create a new starship category named "Battleships", remove the Cruiser Commands from the X but give her a LTC Tactical instead, or go for the top with a Com Tactical
I think you're missing that a good portion of those 74 pages are suggestions and thanks for revising the Galaxy's. The actual rage portion is rather limited to those who either wouldn't be satisfied without a complete change of the Galaxy from an Engineering captain's specialist ship to a Tactical captain's super-battleship, or who want to use the topic as a springboard for their own pet peeves.
There have been some good suggestions and some not-so-good, but I've only seen a few people who are complaining that Cryptic is making a mistake in revising the ships (as opposed to how to revise them).
I laughed at this. I dare you contabulate into metrics the overwhelming dissapointments within this thread into a comparison to the few clueless pecks of admiration. Hell, just to help you out with what is obviously your lack of reading this thread to go ahead and add in any pseudo-praises like "i'm glad they did.. something." while still counting the overall post as disappointments. By doing that much I can safely say you'll find 90% of posters are unhappy and I'll be generous in saying perhaps 35% including pseudo praises.
It's very clear you haven't been reading this thread since its inception. You're terrible at spin.
Has its already been said the Dyson tech would work wonders for both the Galaxy R and X but the problem is that is that both vessels would need at least a Lt. Commander Tactical station to swap out to Commander Tactical and down grade the Commander Engineering Station to a Lt. Commander Engineering Station.
Some forum goers are holding out hope that the Fleet X will have some of the things that we've been suggesting like the Lt. Commander Tactical Station but has much has I'd like to believe that it may possible, Cryptic's track record does not instill me with the with the utmost of confidence that this will be the case.
But yeah Battle Bridge..... I can't believe that I missed that
Even though that's one of the primary reasons I didn't include that issue and stuck to basics like a crappy premiere weapon like the lance that still doesn't get the refit it needs, it does call to mention that in PVP for those who enjoy it, every player will know exactly where the kill target is located and not even worry about the saucer.
This 'reboot' keeps yet another weight on the ship staying in dry dock. MVA has that novelty in comparison as you can choose alpha, beta etc.
The entirety of this 'reboot' just summarizes as incompetence to the design, all together.
Even though that's one of the primary reasons I didn't include that issue and stuck to basics like a crappy premiere weapon like the lance that still doesn't get the refit it needs, it does call to mention that in PVP for those who enjoy it, every player will know exactly where the kill target is located and not even worry about the saucer.
This 'reboot' keeps yet another weight on the ship staying in dry dock. MVA has that novelty in comparison as you can choose alpha, beta etc.
The entirety of this 'reboot' just summarizes as incompetence to the design, all together.
The Galaxys are up on TRIBBLE. Some are saying QUITE otherwise.
They fix what isn't broken, and in doing so, break a perfectly functioning console. Now we can't even use it.
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I had always hoped when they redid the galaxy dreadnaught they would give it at least one more tactical ability slot, probably taking away one of the engineering ones. I mean the thing is supposed to be a DREADNOUGHT! A few more tactical abilities would sure make it feel like one.
I had always hoped when they redid the galaxy dreadnaught they would give it at least one more tactical ability slot, probably taking away one of the engineering ones. I mean the thing is supposed to be a DREADNOUGHT! A few more tactical abilities would sure make it feel like one.
The easy way out would have been if they swapped the Lt. Commander Engineering with the Lt. Tactical.
The x model was not touched up at all, the phaser lance is still off center.
The Saucer Separation and Hanger are working fine.
It will be a fun ship to play with but it would have been a mainstay of my if it had the Lt. Commander Tactical slot
Oh well I guess the 7.5 Million EC that I spent on the Fleet Modual won't go to waste
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I think you're missing that a good portion of those 74 pages are suggestions and thanks for revising the Galaxy's. The actual rage portion is rather limited to those who either wouldn't be satisfied without a complete change of the Galaxy from an Engineering captain's specialist ship to a Tactical captain's super-battleship, or who want to use the topic as a springboard for their own pet peeves.
There have been some good suggestions and some not-so-good, but I've only seen a few people who are complaining that Cryptic is making a mistake in revising the ships (as opposed to how to revise them).
[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
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makes perfect sense, especially on the galaxy imo, seeing how its stardrive was supposed to go into combat situations.
seeing as the tech now exists yes.
also seeing as the secondary bridge is called the "battle" bridge
+1 for that. The secondary hull of the Galaxy is the battle section. So, it'd make sense to allow for better tac slotting during saucer sep.
u sir just won this thread
edit: oops
Don't we have fewer forward weapons then? Missing some Beam stripes then.
it only looses the strip under the saucer, no big deal though since there's on under the engineering section, not to mention the dominion war era galaxy was supposed to have been upgraded with better armour and additional phaser strips on the engines.
Darn it I hate Logic :P
Has its already been said the Dyson tech would work wonders for both the Galaxy R and X but the problem is that is that both vessels would need at least a Lt. Commander Tactical station to swap out to Commander Tactical and down grade the Commander Engineering Station to a Lt. Commander Engineering Station.
Some forum goers are holding out hope that the Fleet X will have some of the things that we've been suggesting like the Lt. Commander Tactical Station but has much has I'd like to believe that it may possible, Cryptic's track record does not instill me with the with the utmost of confidence that this will be the case.
But yeah Battle Bridge..... I can't believe that I missed that
Hmmmmmm... And the Saucer would gain science abilities through an unlockable secondary Deflector?
This, plus a Hangar Bay in the Saucer filled with Typ-10 Shuttles and Deltas.... Shoving them down a Borg Cube's throught and beating the TRIBBLE out of them with Gravity Well and Tykens Rift while I drain the shields with Plasmonic Leech and Advanced Flow Capacitors, and Rapid Fire Transphasic Torpedos are crashing in their behinds and all Borg are like "Help! Help!!" and I just so "Diiieee! Diiieeee!"
Har Har Har... Where are my pills
Good idea. I wish I thought of it. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_bridge
It would be nice to have the battle bridge from TNG added to the c-store. It didn't have science or engineering stations, but it would be nice to use for smaller ships, or a Galaxy class if you desire.
Any ship getting rammed like the U.S.S Galaxy did, wouldn't have fared any better. I wasn't referring to any one specific event necessarily, but the overall attitude of the Dominion.
Specifically though, remember that huge fleet of Dominion warships that never made it through the wormhole (DS9: Sacrifice of Angels)? Sisko browbeat the Prophets of Bajor into being useful, and they made that whole fleet vanish. I am not saying the Galaxy class ships in the fight to reach DS9 and save the minefield didn't make a good accounting of themselves, but without the Klingons, the Dominion fleet would probably have won. Because of the strategic limitation of needing to reach the minefield before it was destroyed, the Federation fleet was forced to fight on the Dominion's terms. If that huge fleet had managed to get through the wormhole, it would have rolled right over the Federation without slowing down. That's what I was alluding to. The Dominion's military might at that time was such that they were very confident that they could deal with anything the Federation could possibly throw at them. It was the Federation's effective control of the Wormhole through Sisko and the addition of Klingon forces that were greater deciding factors (and D9's recurring role of speedbump for any ship coming out through the wormhole once it was under Federation control), over any particular ships the Federation had.
I wasn't denouncing the class. It's that, in my view, the Dominion wasn't any more awed or impressed by the Galaxy class than they were by any other ship from the Alpha Quadrant. Strategic view over tactical view. The Dominion might have thought that individually the Galaxy was impressive, but against the backdrop of their war machine, they were insignificant. It was only when that war machine was ground down that any concerns over individual ship or class capabilities would have been taken into account.
I should have stated that instead of being snarky.
see with the reboot they could of added the G-x nacelles to the G-R so we could get the dominion war era look
what we should be flying any way
yeah defiantly, doesn't make much sense that they would downgrade the ship back to the TNG era.
I laughed at this. I dare you contabulate into metrics the overwhelming dissapointments within this thread into a comparison to the few clueless pecks of admiration. Hell, just to help you out with what is obviously your lack of reading this thread to go ahead and add in any pseudo-praises like "i'm glad they did.. something." while still counting the overall post as disappointments. By doing that much I can safely say you'll find 90% of posters are unhappy and I'll be generous in saying perhaps 35% including pseudo praises.
It's very clear you haven't been reading this thread since its inception. You're terrible at spin.
Even though that's one of the primary reasons I didn't include that issue and stuck to basics like a crappy premiere weapon like the lance that still doesn't get the refit it needs, it does call to mention that in PVP for those who enjoy it, every player will know exactly where the kill target is located and not even worry about the saucer.
This 'reboot' keeps yet another weight on the ship staying in dry dock. MVA has that novelty in comparison as you can choose alpha, beta etc.
The entirety of this 'reboot' just summarizes as incompetence to the design, all together.
The Galaxys are up on TRIBBLE. Some are saying QUITE otherwise.
So, Cryptic has chosen to ignore us, once again.
[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
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They fix what isn't broken, and in doing so, break a perfectly functioning console. Now we can't even use it.
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man i still think it's completely dumb it does not have shield command or maneuvering
even after the added hanger i see no need for the removal of both of them the shield one i find to be the most useful
i am sure after a week i will go back to the tac vesta. at least it's "phaser lance" does damage and actually hits
The easy way out would have been if they swapped the Lt. Commander Engineering with the Lt. Tactical.
The x model was not touched up at all, the phaser lance is still off center.
The Saucer Separation and Hanger are working fine.
It will be a fun ship to play with but it would have been a mainstay of my if it had the Lt. Commander Tactical slot
Oh well I guess the 7.5 Million EC that I spent on the Fleet Modual won't go to waste
This coming from the guy who's been calling this TRIBBLE chocolate without it being on tribble. You're terrible at spin.
The lance hits more than half the time? Have you done a controlled test?
Then change the channel and watch something else. :P