Yeah... I think for me to consider $50 bundles going forward, they'd need:
Full 3 deck unique interior (with a move towards interior functionality).
Ground costume included.
A basis in Star Trek canon or strong Trek appeal.
More unique elements to all 3 variants than just seating.
While I already have the Galaxy and Galaxy X, I'd pay more for a Galaxy 3 pack of Exploration Cruiser/Dreadnought/3rd variant with console synergy, Galaxy interiors, a Pressman/Riker costume. It's the friggin' Galaxy.
The Dyson design is kinda cool but kinda un-Trek. The ships are too similar (as opposed to say a pack with the Fleet Exploration Cruiser, Fleet Dreadnought, and a third 10 console science variation with some love... maybe the Nebula if the costume styles for each applied to all 3). The interior space is confined and shows little intention of interior expansion. I spend enough time on the ground that, for $50, I'd want to show my pride there.
The one thing I do like here is having a 3 faction mega-bundle although $100 is enough to make me rethink my spending in the game. If the faction bundling interests Cryptic, I'd rather have a 3 pack for $50 of 1 Fed, 1 Klingon, and 1 Romulan ship with consoles claimable across factions if you buy the bundle and console synergy. 3 ships for $50 with some kind of synergy/perks makes more sense to me than 9 ships for $100.
I mean, even "God" only wanted ONE Starship. What do I need with 9 that I'd need 3 alts to enjoy? Alting isn't even that friendly a practice. I used to maintain alts but long ago decided this is a game best enjoyed with a single character. My alts are just for scoping out faction specific PvE content.
- It's the new hotness, and I'm illogically drawn to it's "cool factor."
- I love "sets". I'm a collector and the idea of having two Solanae-themed sets on a Solanae-themed ship really makes my OCD tingle.
- I can get all nine ships for "free" (personal eons of effort notwithstanding) by exchanging about 75% of my existing Refined Dilithium into Zen.
- Finally! A KDF Science Ship (that isn't a Carrier)!
Reasons for me NOT to Buy:
- I do not support the Grind and Pay revenue model. STO has worked beautifully for years now via the Grind or Pay model, and that's plenty fine for my tastes.
- I'm not keen on supporting the idea of $100 bundles for what is essentially three ships (1x per faction w/three skins each) and nine consoles.
- I'm not really impressed with the look and feel of these new ships. I mean don't get me wrong, I recognize the effort and talent put into the design and construction, but personally I don't find them all that aesthetically pleasing. The KDF version does happen to be my favorite looking design, but I'm uncertain if I can cover the Solanae pearl/black/purple skin with something more appropriately Klingon. [Edit: Confirmed in thread below: You can not use faction-specific skins on these ships. That's unfortunate.]
- The ship stats do not make me want to play the ships. They are mediocre Science Ships, and sub-par Destroyers/Escorts. And at the very least, that Ensign BO position should be Universal.
- The Sets, while they pique my Collector Interest, are not fun. The new powers were underwhelming when I used them during the A Step Between Stars, and I don't want to invest so much money (or Dil) to test/perfect such a highly-likely poor build. The Set bonuses are all about improving shields and proton energy. The former aren't needed to be that reinforced in the PvE play I enjoy, and the latter is flat out a sub-par energy flavor (chiefly because I can't get matching tac consoles).
- The Solanae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons should be removable (similar to the Aux Cannon or the Quad Cannon on other ships). Let me put whatever weapon I want in that fourth Destroyer Mode slot.
- The Fed class names are wrong, the Engineering-flavored version should be called the Montogomery. Omega/Helios could go either way, but frankly I think Helios is a better sounding Sci ship and Omega a better sounding Tac ship.
- My active characters are all rather well-supplied with previously purchased (C-Store, Lobi, Lockbox, Fleet, etc.) ships. There's no need for anything new. They're just sitting around playing the same old content over and over. Flying a new ship is not going to make Infected Space Elite any more entertaining.
I thought I was on the fence about whether to buy or not, but it seems the Cons definitely outweigh the Pros. Thanks anyway.
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I thought I was on the fence about whether to buy or not, but it seems the Cons definitely outweigh the Pros. Thanks anyway.
Before I made a judgement about changing the ship look and the level of customization. I logged in, set the ship, and then hit customize. So, frankly no faction specific skin. Going to advance brings you the other customization options. Sadly, the ship looks similiar no matter what you choose.
Perhaps it's just me, but I honestly can't see any visual difference between the ships... Caprimul/Tyton/Harpia? They all look exactly the same to me, even in that spotlight video...
I really want the Romulan 3-pack. I don't have any use for the Fed or KDF versions.. but I do think that if you buy the c-store version it should come with the secondary deflector or the secondary deflector should be claimable from the dilithium store under special unlocks if you own one of the dyson ships.
I'm not going to shell out $100 on the off chance that somewhere down the line I might decide to use it on a character beside my Romulan. I'm only getting it for my Romulan because I dislike their regular dedicated science ship. I only have one character on Fed (and none on KDF) that use a science ship and they use a Vesta because I am, admittedly, a Vesta fanboy thanks to Mr. David Mack.
I'm also kind of disappointed there aren't true faction variant skins and bridges. I guess that's a lot to ask for.. but I'd like to be able to color my ship in traditional Romulan hues.
- I'm not really impressed with the look and feel of these new ships. I mean don't get me wrong, I recognize the effort and talent put into the design and construction, but personally I don't find them all that aesthetically pleasing. The KDF version does happen to be my favorite looking design, but I'm uncertain if I can cover the Solanae pearl/black/purple skin with something more appropriately Klingon.
Replying to this part, no you cannot use klingon skins on these ships, same goes for the fed and Rom versions.
You can only use the Solanae skins..
Perhaps it's just me, but I honestly can't see any visual difference between the ships... Caprimul/Tyton/Harpia? They all look exactly the same to me, even in that spotlight video...
There are no significant differences between the three variations and no faction specfic ship skin.
I have seen these in action and, unless someone figures out how to make these useful in PvP, I'll stick to my Vesta or Voth Palisade. Have yet to see one survive too long.
Been flying around seeing if people are buying these. The problem is that I can't tell the difference between these and the anniversary ship. I see ships around, but I can't tell which one is which. They also all look the same. Don't know which variant anyone is flying. It's really weird and kinda creepy tbh.
One good(?) ship and 8 'phoning it in' copies. You should get all 9 for 5000 Zen... at most. Build a ship...Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V. :rolleyes:
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
I have a question. Do I have to keep the older 9 console version in my inventory to keep the costume for it unlocked, or could that be tied into the deflector maybe?
"..and like children playing after sunset, we were surrounded by darkness." -Ruri Hoshino
I caved in and bought the Romulan-bundle. I was already willing to spend 50$ on these to 'complete' the work I began to outfit my Aves-class warbird.
This is what I found out:
Claiming it yielded 3 boxes, just like the Odyssey or Vesta bundles. Each ship, once claimed, ends up in the ship inventory. Each bear different console arrangements and one of the unique consoles.
When modifying these ships in the tailor, you get:
The Aves-class preset.
No window customization.
The ability to customize up to four materials. You get Aves by default, and then any of the core materials associated to the ships you've purchased. The Caprimul material favors the pale shell colors, the Harpia is more strongly contrasting and higher gloss than the Aves, and the Titon has a penchant for blueish lines but less pearly gloss.
When customizing ship costume pieces, you get the Aves pieces, and the pieces of the ships you've bought. Again, the Harpuia is kind of like the Aves, but with 'extra teeth'. The Caprimul favors in majority the shell-like consistancy of the ship. The Tyton fills in the hollowed almost-honeycombed parts of the wings and is a bit more reinforced.
Unexpected Bonus:
Your viewscreen 'frame' changes to the kind of volumetric displays you can see on the Dyson bridge. It's one of the cooler small touches I've enjoyed from this ship. It's also, ironically, what compelled me to write this post.
I caved in and bought the Romulan-bundle. I was already willing to spend 50$ on these to 'complete' the work I began to outfit my Aves-class warbird.
This is what I found out:
Claiming it yielded 3 boxes, just like the Odyssey or Vesta bundles. Each ship, once claimed, ends up in the ship inventory. Each bear different console arrangements and one of the unique consoles.
When modifying these ships in the tailor, you get:
The Aves-class preset.
No window customization.
The ability to customize up to four materials. You get Aves by default, and then any of the core materials associated to the ships you've purchased. The Caprimul material favors the pale shell colors, the Harpia is more strongly contrasting and higher gloss than the Aves, and the Titon has a penchant for blueish lines but less pearly gloss.
When customizing ship costume pieces, you get the Aves pieces, and the pieces of the ships you've bought. Again, the Harpuia is kind of like the Aves, but with 'extra teeth'. The Caprimul favors in majority the shell-like consistancy of the ship. The Tyton fills in the hollowed almost-honeycombed parts of the wings and is a bit more reinforced.
Unexpected Bonus:
Your viewscreen 'frame' changes to the kind of volumetric displays you can see on the Dyson bridge. It's one of the cooler small touches I've enjoyed from this ship. It's also, ironically, what compelled me to write this post.
How about a faction specific skin? I fooled around with the ship appearance without spending the $50 bucks. I do believe they have some appearance difference but not significant compared to many other ships.
I sorry but there's no way on gods earth I will fork out 10k in zen for a nine pack bundle based around a ship that's nothing more than a gimmick and a poorly thought out one at that. I've got the free ones not that their every likely to be used in anything serious. Sorry but its just another money grab by cryptic/pwe and I will have no part in it.
How about a faction specific skin? I fooled around with the ship appearance without spending the $50 bucks. I do believe they have some appearance difference but not significant compared to many other ships.
Nope. Nothing you'd recognize as Fed, KDF or Romulan. The materials you get with the Romulan bundle are the "Dyson" (the base Aves-material look), "Caprimul", "Harpia" and "Tyton" just as I explained before. They run thematics around the look for the Obelisk Carrier, the Dyson shield and what you've seen of the Aves before.
You can also enable the appearance of any shield you equip - MACO, Reman, Breen, Tholian. But that's about it.
I have a question. Do I have to keep the older 9 console version in my inventory to keep the costume for it unlocked, or could that be tied into the deflector maybe?
I have no idea. I don't dare delete the Aves, as it's my only way to reclaim the Singularity Core and the Secondary Deflector that I'm aware of.
Nope. Nothing you'd recognize as Fed, KDF or Romulan. The materials you get with the Romulan bundle are the "Dyson" (the base Aves-material look), "Caprimul", "Harpia" and "Tyton" just as I explained before. They run thematics around the look for the Obelisk Carrier, the Dyson shield and what you've seen of the Aves before.
You can also enable the appearance of any shield you equip - MACO, Reman, Breen, Tholian. But that's about it.
Yea. I seen. I don't think it would have been too hard for Cryptic to make a faction specific skin but oh well.
I went back and forth with getting a single faction 3 pack, or the 9 pack. I decided on the Federation 3 pack. It's a solid flexible ship with 3 pretty useful consoles, good weapons and powers, and more umpf in tactical mode. I use her mostly in science mode as a drain and shield stripper, and it is awesome.
I didn't need one for each faction, but I am glad I got both the PetiteQ grind, and 3 pack.
Unexpected Bonus:
Your viewscreen 'frame' changes to the kind of volumetric displays you can see on the Dyson bridge. It's one of the cooler small touches I've enjoyed from this ship. It's also, ironically, what compelled me to write this post.
I just wanted to point out that this is nothing new that is related to these ships. I already get the Andorian viewscreen frame when I'm on my Kumari.
You know what the real shame in all this really is.
First the wasted development team time on this, when they could have been doing something productive, when I say productive I mean fixing all the bugs we have in game. I'd love to see Defera fixed, the Be'ves Honour guard costume made available to post-S7 players and many more things fixed. Or perhaps finding a way to make smaller fleets more viable other than FC gaining for big fleet members (like for fleets under 100 accounts remove dilithium cost requirements and replace with FM) Or maybe bring out a character re-career and re-species token and the ability to repack up a lock box ship to move to another character (account bound would be fine), things many have wanted for a long time and would still make them money.
But the biggest and most unfortunate thing about all this is for the KDF and Romulan factions, who really lack dedicated science vessels like the Federation, something comparable to the Vesta for example. Both factions don't have anything like this so there is no real point rolling a science officer on those factions if you want the real science experience. Both factions are either forced to make do with what is available in the c-store or fleet store or if one really has the desire to play a true science have to look into lock box/lobi ships. Both options are really unfair considering Federation characters can just go a buy a c-store one or a fleet one and be done with it. Many thought these ships were the answer to solving that issue, but obviously it isn't as they are hybrids and not popular.
But in all seriousness I think Cryptic has lost touch with it's roots, with what Star Trek is. So much in the game doesn't feel that Trek anymore. Hell go read one of the Trek novels go watch TNG for example and come back to the game and tell me it feels right (understandable some things need to be different for a MMO setting like a multicultural KDF). Players want certain things, realistic things like more faction unique missions that follow the IP to continue the story Cryptic started 4 years ago, science ships (true ones) that look and feel like the factions they belong too, BOP's buffed to me more useful and so on. But none of these really happen, just more grind and more things that the Dev's think are cool but in reality such plain suck...
I mean, even "God" only wanted ONE Starship. What do I need with 9 that I'd need 3 alts to enjoy? Alting isn't even that friendly a practice. I used to maintain alts but long ago decided this is a game best enjoyed with a single character. My alts are just for scoping out faction specific PvE content.
This exactly ^ ever since season 7 came in I stopped playing alts. In fact I can only find time to work on two characters, hell I haven't even got a Romulan past claiming the Vice Admiral promotion due to this. I used to alt all the time, enjoyed leveling characters but I have found myself deleting characters. I have another 3 going soon and that will leave me with 12 free character slots.
Cryptic would make more money off me if they eased off the grind, became account friendly like they used to be. The sponsorship was a step in the right direction but it really still isn't enough to warrant me playing all 3 factions. Hell more than 2 characters, I'm still trying to catch up on 2 rep systems on those characters.
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i am not a big fan of dyson destroyers but i like tactical mode and science they do come in handy
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Normally I'd jump at the chance to buy a c-store fed ship but i just can' bring myself to do it.
Story wise I don't understand why any of the alliance factions would build ships from the ground up based on sphere technology and materials. Sure if it was the case the alliance found some kind of automated fleet yard, like the one in the ST:ENT episode "Dead Stop", and started taking turns building ships. I could get my head around that. Hell it would have made a good mission discovering the fleet yard, there could have been a big battle with the voth where the alliance fleet suffered heavy loses and they needed to sure up ship numbers with these ships. But that didn't happen.
I don't like the look of the ship itself. I remember the old ship dev CAPTLogan saying that its difficult to come up with new fed ships all the time especially with all the rules attached to fed ship design. I think this is starting to shine through. I see the new ships and I think of is Stargate. The Fed ships are just Ori skinned intrepid class starships with moving parts.
But in all seriousness I think Cryptic has lost touch with it's roots, with what Star Trek is. So much in the game doesn't feel that Trek anymore. Hell go read one of the Trek novels go watch TNG for example and come back to the game and tell me it feels right (understandable some things need to be different for a MMO setting like a multicultural KDF). Players want certain things, realistic things like more faction unique missions that follow the IP to continue the story Cryptic started 4 years ago, science ships (true ones) that look and feel like the factions they belong too, BOP's buffed to me more useful and so on. But none of these really happen, just more grind and more things that the Dev's think are cool but in reality such plain suck...
I started feeling the same after season 6 where you had to kill X amount of Tholian scientists for their data pads. Not very Starfleet.
Here's the thing as someone in an above point out about the lack of dedicated science ships for both the Romulan and KDF factions, these Dyson ships were the perfect way of addressing this shortage and yet cryptic once more decide to squander this chance to even things up. But for the love of god who ever thought that these ships were a good idea needs taking out side and shooting or at least get a good beating. These need recalling and the underlying reasons for creating these abominations need looking at. With these ships its a case of a "Jack of all trades and master of none" type scenario.
I bought them and I have tried them. I wanted them mostly because I really like Science and my Romulans needed better ships. My Feds have had Vestas and Steamrunners for a long time. I went ahead and got the 9 pack bundle and all I can say is...
Buyer's Remorse.
It's pretty sad that I dropped $100 on something I will not be using. I know they are trying to do different things with the ships, but I think they tried to pack too much into it. There are too many moving parts and it gets annoying flying them. My Vesta users will stay with their current ships. My Steamrunner people as well. I also have a few with the Chel Gret and I am not planning on changing them either.
I am not trying to be hateful here. I am just being honest.
I sincerely regret the purchase.
No, I am not who you think I am. I am someone different. I am instead a banana.
IF I was to buy one, i'd buy the Fed. But I won't, because i've got the Vesta 3-pack and the Kumari 3-pack - both of which are superior to the Dyson ships at their respective roles.
Considering the Fed one got the most jipped being flimsier than the KDF one and not having any cloak whatsoever why would you want that one?
The Romulan one is clearly the best with singularity powers and battle cloak. The KDF one is toughest and has normal cloak but that only makes it second best.
I bought them and I have tried them. I wanted them mostly because I really like Science and my Romulans needed better ships. My Feds have had Vestas and Steamrunners for a long time. I went ahead and got the 9 pack bundle and all I can say is...
Buyer's Remorse.
It's pretty sad that I dropped $100 on something I will not be using. I know they are trying to do different things with the ships, but I think they tried to pack too much into it. There are too many moving parts and it gets annoying flying them. My Vesta users will stay with their current ships. My Steamrunner people as well. I also have a few with the Chel Gret and I am not planning on changing them either.
I am not trying to be hateful here. I am just being honest.
I sincerely regret the purchase.
I would say only the Romulan one is worth your time really but the KDF one is not bad. What you need is a solid build for them in order to make them work.
They lend themselves very well to a powerful Power Drain build. Slap the 3 part Protonic Arsenal set on them, put a Protonic Polaron DBB up front along with the 2 weapons from that set and a slew of 3 Protonic Polaron turrets in back. Then make sure to have Tyken's Rift III on your top science spot with Energy Siphon and Plasmonic Leech and high Flow Capaciters and sit back and enjoy the show. Good Particle emitters and high crit rate help a lot as well.
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Full 3 deck unique interior (with a move towards interior functionality).
Ground costume included.
A basis in Star Trek canon or strong Trek appeal.
More unique elements to all 3 variants than just seating.
While I already have the Galaxy and Galaxy X, I'd pay more for a Galaxy 3 pack of Exploration Cruiser/Dreadnought/3rd variant with console synergy, Galaxy interiors, a Pressman/Riker costume. It's the friggin' Galaxy.
The Dyson design is kinda cool but kinda un-Trek. The ships are too similar (as opposed to say a pack with the Fleet Exploration Cruiser, Fleet Dreadnought, and a third 10 console science variation with some love... maybe the Nebula if the costume styles for each applied to all 3). The interior space is confined and shows little intention of interior expansion. I spend enough time on the ground that, for $50, I'd want to show my pride there.
The one thing I do like here is having a 3 faction mega-bundle although $100 is enough to make me rethink my spending in the game. If the faction bundling interests Cryptic, I'd rather have a 3 pack for $50 of 1 Fed, 1 Klingon, and 1 Romulan ship with consoles claimable across factions if you buy the bundle and console synergy. 3 ships for $50 with some kind of synergy/perks makes more sense to me than 9 ships for $100.
I mean, even "God" only wanted ONE Starship. What do I need with 9 that I'd need 3 alts to enjoy? Alting isn't even that friendly a practice. I used to maintain alts but long ago decided this is a game best enjoyed with a single character. My alts are just for scoping out faction specific PvE content.
- I love "sets". I'm a collector and the idea of having two Solanae-themed sets on a Solanae-themed ship really makes my OCD tingle.
- I can get all nine ships for "free" (personal eons of effort notwithstanding) by exchanging about 75% of my existing Refined Dilithium into Zen.
- Finally! A KDF Science Ship (that isn't a Carrier)!
Reasons for me NOT to Buy:
- I'm not keen on supporting the idea of $100 bundles for what is essentially three ships (1x per faction w/three skins each) and nine consoles.
- I'm not really impressed with the look and feel of these new ships. I mean don't get me wrong, I recognize the effort and talent put into the design and construction, but personally I don't find them all that aesthetically pleasing. The KDF version does happen to be my favorite looking design, but I'm uncertain if I can cover the Solanae pearl/black/purple skin with something more appropriately Klingon. [Edit: Confirmed in thread below: You can not use faction-specific skins on these ships. That's unfortunate.]
- The ship stats do not make me want to play the ships. They are mediocre Science Ships, and sub-par Destroyers/Escorts. And at the very least, that Ensign BO position should be Universal.
- The Sets, while they pique my Collector Interest, are not fun. The new powers were underwhelming when I used them during the A Step Between Stars, and I don't want to invest so much money (or Dil) to test/perfect such a highly-likely poor build. The Set bonuses are all about improving shields and proton energy. The former aren't needed to be that reinforced in the PvE play I enjoy, and the latter is flat out a sub-par energy flavor (chiefly because I can't get matching tac consoles).
- The Solanae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons should be removable (similar to the Aux Cannon or the Quad Cannon on other ships). Let me put whatever weapon I want in that fourth Destroyer Mode slot.
- The Fed class names are wrong, the Engineering-flavored version should be called the Montogomery. Omega/Helios could go either way, but frankly I think Helios is a better sounding Sci ship and Omega a better sounding Tac ship.
- My active characters are all rather well-supplied with previously purchased (C-Store, Lobi, Lockbox, Fleet, etc.) ships. There's no need for anything new. They're just sitting around playing the same old content over and over. Flying a new ship is not going to make Infected Space Elite any more entertaining.
I thought I was on the fence about whether to buy or not, but it seems the Cons definitely outweigh the Pros. Thanks anyway.
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
Before I made a judgement about changing the ship look and the level of customization. I logged in, set the ship, and then hit customize. So, frankly no faction specific skin. Going to advance brings you the other customization options. Sadly, the ship looks similiar no matter what you choose.
Lazy design work!
I'm not going to shell out $100 on the off chance that somewhere down the line I might decide to use it on a character beside my Romulan. I'm only getting it for my Romulan because I dislike their regular dedicated science ship. I only have one character on Fed (and none on KDF) that use a science ship and they use a Vesta because I am, admittedly, a Vesta fanboy thanks to Mr. David Mack.
I'm also kind of disappointed there aren't true faction variant skins and bridges. I guess that's a lot to ask for.. but I'd like to be able to color my ship in traditional Romulan hues.
Replying to this part, no you cannot use klingon skins on these ships, same goes for the fed and Rom versions.
You can only use the Solanae skins..
There are no significant differences between the three variations and no faction specfic ship skin.
Yes. It's exactly that.
I've updated my post.
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
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This is what I found out:
Claiming it yielded 3 boxes, just like the Odyssey or Vesta bundles. Each ship, once claimed, ends up in the ship inventory. Each bear different console arrangements and one of the unique consoles.
When modifying these ships in the tailor, you get:
The Aves-class preset.
No window customization.
The ability to customize up to four materials. You get Aves by default, and then any of the core materials associated to the ships you've purchased. The Caprimul material favors the pale shell colors, the Harpia is more strongly contrasting and higher gloss than the Aves, and the Titon has a penchant for blueish lines but less pearly gloss.
When customizing ship costume pieces, you get the Aves pieces, and the pieces of the ships you've bought. Again, the Harpuia is kind of like the Aves, but with 'extra teeth'. The Caprimul favors in majority the shell-like consistancy of the ship. The Tyton fills in the hollowed almost-honeycombed parts of the wings and is a bit more reinforced.
Unexpected Bonus:
Your viewscreen 'frame' changes to the kind of volumetric displays you can see on the Dyson bridge. It's one of the cooler small touches I've enjoyed from this ship. It's also, ironically, what compelled me to write this post.
How about a faction specific skin? I fooled around with the ship appearance without spending the $50 bucks. I do believe they have some appearance difference but not significant compared to many other ships.
Nope. Nothing you'd recognize as Fed, KDF or Romulan. The materials you get with the Romulan bundle are the "Dyson" (the base Aves-material look), "Caprimul", "Harpia" and "Tyton" just as I explained before. They run thematics around the look for the Obelisk Carrier, the Dyson shield and what you've seen of the Aves before.
You can also enable the appearance of any shield you equip - MACO, Reman, Breen, Tholian. But that's about it.
I have no idea. I don't dare delete the Aves, as it's my only way to reclaim the Singularity Core and the Secondary Deflector that I'm aware of.
Yea. I seen. I don't think it would have been too hard for Cryptic to make a faction specific skin but oh well.
I didn't need one for each faction, but I am glad I got both the PetiteQ grind, and 3 pack.
Member since December 2009
Yeah, pretty much.
I just wanted to point out that this is nothing new that is related to these ships. I already get the Andorian viewscreen frame when I'm on my Kumari.
First the wasted development team time on this, when they could have been doing something productive, when I say productive I mean fixing all the bugs we have in game. I'd love to see Defera fixed, the Be'ves Honour guard costume made available to post-S7 players and many more things fixed. Or perhaps finding a way to make smaller fleets more viable other than FC gaining for big fleet members (like for fleets under 100 accounts remove dilithium cost requirements and replace with FM) Or maybe bring out a character re-career and re-species token and the ability to repack up a lock box ship to move to another character (account bound would be fine), things many have wanted for a long time and would still make them money.
But the biggest and most unfortunate thing about all this is for the KDF and Romulan factions, who really lack dedicated science vessels like the Federation, something comparable to the Vesta for example. Both factions don't have anything like this so there is no real point rolling a science officer on those factions if you want the real science experience. Both factions are either forced to make do with what is available in the c-store or fleet store or if one really has the desire to play a true science have to look into lock box/lobi ships. Both options are really unfair considering Federation characters can just go a buy a c-store one or a fleet one and be done with it. Many thought these ships were the answer to solving that issue, but obviously it isn't as they are hybrids and not popular.
But in all seriousness I think Cryptic has lost touch with it's roots, with what Star Trek is. So much in the game doesn't feel that Trek anymore. Hell go read one of the Trek novels go watch TNG for example and come back to the game and tell me it feels right (understandable some things need to be different for a MMO setting like a multicultural KDF). Players want certain things, realistic things like more faction unique missions that follow the IP to continue the story Cryptic started 4 years ago, science ships (true ones) that look and feel like the factions they belong too, BOP's buffed to me more useful and so on. But none of these really happen, just more grind and more things that the Dev's think are cool but in reality such plain suck...
This exactly ^ ever since season 7 came in I stopped playing alts. In fact I can only find time to work on two characters, hell I haven't even got a Romulan past claiming the Vice Admiral promotion due to this. I used to alt all the time, enjoyed leveling characters but I have found myself deleting characters. I have another 3 going soon and that will leave me with 12 free character slots.
Cryptic would make more money off me if they eased off the grind, became account friendly like they used to be. The sponsorship was a step in the right direction but it really still isn't enough to warrant me playing all 3 factions. Hell more than 2 characters, I'm still trying to catch up on 2 rep systems on those characters.
i am not a big fan of dyson destroyers but i like tactical mode and science they do come in handy
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Story wise I don't understand why any of the alliance factions would build ships from the ground up based on sphere technology and materials. Sure if it was the case the alliance found some kind of automated fleet yard, like the one in the ST:ENT episode "Dead Stop", and started taking turns building ships. I could get my head around that. Hell it would have made a good mission discovering the fleet yard, there could have been a big battle with the voth where the alliance fleet suffered heavy loses and they needed to sure up ship numbers with these ships. But that didn't happen.
I don't like the look of the ship itself. I remember the old ship dev CAPTLogan saying that its difficult to come up with new fed ships all the time especially with all the rules attached to fed ship design. I think this is starting to shine through. I see the new ships and I think of is Stargate. The Fed ships are just Ori skinned intrepid class starships with moving parts.
I started feeling the same after season 6 where you had to kill X amount of Tholian scientists for their data pads. Not very Starfleet.
Buyer's Remorse.
It's pretty sad that I dropped $100 on something I will not be using. I know they are trying to do different things with the ships, but I think they tried to pack too much into it. There are too many moving parts and it gets annoying flying them. My Vesta users will stay with their current ships. My Steamrunner people as well. I also have a few with the Chel Gret and I am not planning on changing them either.
I am not trying to be hateful here. I am just being honest.
I sincerely regret the purchase.
Ship artists =/= programmers
The number of consoles they have in Science/Tactical/Engineering by 1 console. That is the big difference between them.
Considering the Fed one got the most jipped being flimsier than the KDF one and not having any cloak whatsoever why would you want that one?
The Romulan one is clearly the best with singularity powers and battle cloak. The KDF one is toughest and has normal cloak but that only makes it second best.
I would say only the Romulan one is worth your time really but the KDF one is not bad. What you need is a solid build for them in order to make them work.
They lend themselves very well to a powerful Power Drain build. Slap the 3 part Protonic Arsenal set on them, put a Protonic Polaron DBB up front along with the 2 weapons from that set and a slew of 3 Protonic Polaron turrets in back. Then make sure to have Tyken's Rift III on your top science spot with Energy Siphon and Plasmonic Leech and high Flow Capaciters and sit back and enjoy the show. Good Particle emitters and high crit rate help a lot as well.