I don't like the look of the ship itself. I remember the old ship dev CAPTLogan saying that its difficult to come up with new fed ships all the time especially with all the rules attached to fed ship design. I think this is starting to shine through. I see the new ships and I think of is Stargate. The Fed ships are just Ori skinned intrepid class starships with moving parts.
I am on several 3-D forums and there are many fan made ships that follow the fed ship design but looked different. I've even made a few of my own.
I think Cryptic is being too lazy in making new ships. I would kick the ship designers in the behind. If fans can make ships, why can't Cryptic make ones. The latter would be great for a Dyson/Fed Hybrid with a upper deflector like the USS Titan.
I think Cryptic is being too lazy in making new ships. I would kick the ship designers in the behind. If fans can make ships, why can't Cryptic make ones. The latter would be great for a Dyson/Fed Hybrid with a upper deflector like the USS Titan.
Still haven't wised up and will throw in the secondary deflector and warp core with purchase? I will wait then.
Wut? Doesn't come with a secondary deflector?
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to make it worth, you'd have to buy at least a 3 piece faction bundle, correct ?
I know they are trying to do different things with the ships, but I think they tried to pack too much into it. There are too many moving parts and it gets annoying flying them.
What do you mean by moving parts ? Except for the tactical mode ... Which you knew you'd have before buying.
I would say only the Romulan one is worth your time really but the KDF one is not bad. What you need is a solid build for them in order to make them work.
Thought they're all equal ?
Why would the FED one be worse ? I know somebody else commented on that ...
Except for the singularity obviously for the romulan.
I think Cryptic is being too lazy in making new ships. I would kick the ship designers in the behind. If fans can make ships, why can't Cryptic make ones. The latter would be great for a Dyson/Fed Hybrid with a upper deflector like the USS Titan.
Lol I know a few of those guys, one I am a good friend with and you're right most fan designs are better than the Federation designs Cryptic makes. They don't have much talent when it comes to Federation designs yet they seem to do a remarkable job with all other species/factions.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Considering the Fed one got the most jipped being flimsier than the KDF one and not having any cloak whatsoever why would you want that one?
Because my main is a Fed Science, perhaps? The others are nice but my KDF and Rom Sci toons don't get enough love right now to warrant buying either of their respective ships/ship packs.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
I don't understand all the negativity, these ships are great!
Best thing is they bypass the EFleet system!
Now if we can get all Fleet ships offered in the C-Store like this there would be lots more $$$ for you Cryptic.
All you people crying about all the "work" you put in for Fleet ships pipe down. Those of us that have to really work for a living so all the slackers can get a free ride and play all day long without a care don't really feel your pain. We deserve to have nice things as well seeing we are supporting you and the game.
I don't understand all the negativity, these ships are great!
Best thing is they bypass the EFleet system!
Now if we can get all Fleet ships offered in the C-Store like this there would be lots more $$$ for you Cryptic.
All you people crying about all the "work" you put in for Fleet ships pipe down. Those of us that have to really work for a living so all the slackers can get a free ride and play all day long without a care don't really feel your pain. We deserve to have nice things as well seeing we are supporting you and the game.
Again, Good Show Cryptic! More like this please.
What? Some of the player base actually work including me. I'm one of the people knocking the new ships. The stats of the ship is no typical then other ships and so what you get some consoles that does a lot of colorful things. The ships are still sub-par. The KDF and Romulan ships are decent. The Federation version is garbage and needs to be recalled.
Now if you try to say I'm a free loader. I play a little smarter. I payed 5 bucks for my Haakona. That was my gift to Cryptic for giving us garbage content and a buggie online experience.
There hasn't been anything worth shelling out big bucks. Now, if you want to work and give Cryptic some of your days work. When they are being lazy probably drinking coffee, go for it! Power to you.
Federation version will get buffed and or KDF/ Romulan versions will be nerfed all in the name of balance.
I have hardly any time to play and yet managed to grind out 1 of each faction's anniversary ships so no excuse for those less hampered by RL.
The ship should stay as. I highly doubt the KDF/Romulan will get nerfed.
There are going to be Fed players crying or complaining. Cryptic response, you should have gotten the Vesta and we already got your $$$. In PVP, Cryptic just gave me a new ship to target first with a vapor attack or alpha strike. Some of the ship can be debuffed with one of these http://sto.gamepedia.com/Subspace_Field_Modulator. Since, the Fed ship does not have cloaked, that console does wonders.
The SFM will get you killed in PvP! ("-400 Proton Damage resistance for 15 sec")
If people want to experience PvP tactics without the embarrasment, try fighting the Voth, they use basically the same (annoying) series of debuffs and holds.
The SFM will get you killed in PvP! ("-400 Proton Damage resistance for 15 sec")
If people want to experience PvP tactics without the embarrasment, try fighting the Voth, they use basically the same (annoying) series of debuffs and holds.
Voth is a joke to me. The only thing I cant beat in 30 seconds is the dreadnought.
And where's my Voth repair Ship!? I should have gotten one after T5 in the Dyson Rep.
Annoying. Since they don't last long. I am not sure. The repair ship concept was good but if someone can take out a Voth ship 15 seconds flat then what repair ship. That's like a 2 second lasting life.
This whole thing has just been one big mess that's cost Cryptic what little faith i've had in them.
First they take the free anniversary ship and place it firmly behind a per character paywall/grind all while still telling us that it's free.
Then they have the audacity to make it so you can't get the entire Dyson set without doing all of the grinding AND paying, but each faction has it's own $50 store bundle. Meaning that to get the full set of our Free ship we need to:
Grind 15 days per character, or outright buy it.
Grind the mission a few times for the first set (which isn't as bad)
then spend $150 on top of that to get the full set for a minimum of Three characters (1 per faction)
This officially makes Cryptic worse for Star Trek than JJ Abrams. He was admittedly not a Trek Fan, who just wanted to make a movie for everyone to enjoy. Cryptic is supposedly a bunch of Trek Fans, ruining the IP for the sake of money, which is directly against everything the IP stands for.
Season 8 was specifically adding more grind, and 8.5 allows then to control more of when that grind happens. They might as well call Season 9 and any season after that "Star Trek: The Search For More Money" because that's all they've care about any more. They don't care about the IP, they don't care about the fans, they don't even care about the quality of their own games.
I played the anniversary mission once, then tossed the Dyson rewards. This isn't Star Trek anymore, it's "Generic Space Grind".
Agree with this ^
I have a big issue when somebody calls something FREE, and yet, you have to perform a task (Party Patrol) AND pay virtual currency (Qmendations) in order to get it.
IMO, that's not FREE. It's not the act of grinding for the ship itself that I am upset about, it's the somantics... Don't call something FREE if it really isn't. In this case, the ship is a product, and the Party Patrol/Qmendations are the price of that product.
And I really like how it's said that the Dyson Mega pack costs 10K Zen (A 55% savings). Here's my question... where are the savings?
You pay 10K zen for 3 pretty much identical ships per faction, (aside from some coloring differences here and there) and 9 console pieces. Look at the Vesta pack (for example) at least that ship set had different hull, nacelle, saucer, pylon pieces you could mix and match.
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Because my main is a Fed Science, perhaps? The others are nice but my KDF and Rom Sci toons don't get enough love right now to warrant buying either of their respective ships/ship packs.
I see... Well... That is alright but I must say the Aventine with full 3 pack is superior in several ways. Though the Dyson ship is a bit tougher and less complicated once set up properly.
The SFM will get you killed in PvP! ("-400 Proton Damage resistance for 15 sec")
If people want to experience PvP tactics without the embarrasment, try fighting the Voth, they use basically the same (annoying) series of debuffs and holds.
For the LOVE OF Q... The Voth use ANTIproton NOT PROTON. That device resists the Voth like it does EVERYTHING else. No one but players use Proton at the moment.
ORIGINALLY POSTED UNDER THE DEV BLOG #52 COMMENTS.
Perhaps a Moderator or a Cryptic employee would be willing to dive more indepth about how & why the naming process is there would be less rolling of the eyes. This Moderator gave "a" theory about why the Tactical was titled Montgomery instead of the Engineering, but didn't go furthur about the other names like Omega & Helios nor the other factional Advanced Science Destroyers. Why is this Tactical named after a ... name & the others are not? Are some names staying with Trek canon & some names are using real-life references? Explaining the reasoning & process about this decision & others would be interesting. It might make an insightful Developer's Blog someday.
After all, when mentioning Star Trek & stating the name Montgomery if the first character you think of isn't Montgomery Scott you may not be a Trekkie.
I'm still undecided about purchasing any of the ships. The (9) ship pack is alluring, but costly & I only have (3) Science toons & can pilot only (1) at a time. The lack of customization & differences between the factions seem too shallow to me, but I have piloted the Anniversary version & I do like all (3) designs somewhat.
I appreciate the 4th Anniversary event. I too "grinded" for (4) of the ships & enjoyed the storyline, mini-games, & mission overall. Keep up the good work.
They all seem like good ships & I am sure having both sets' bonuses are a boon.
ORIGINALLY POSTED UNDER THE DEV BLOG #52 COMMENTS.
Perhaps a Moderator or a Cryptic employee would be willing to dive more indepth about how & why the naming process is there would be less rolling of the eyes. This Moderator gave "a" theory about why the Tactical was titled Montgomery instead of the Engineering, but didn't go furthur about the other names like Omega & Helios nor the other factional Advanced Science Destroyers. Why is this Tactical named after a ... name & the others are not? Are some names staying with Trek canon & some names are using real-life references? Explaining the reasoning & process about this decision & others would be interesting. It might make an insightful Developer's Blog someday.
After all, when mentioning Star Trek & stating the name Montgomery if the first character you think of isn't Montgomery Scott you may not be a Trekkie.
I'm still undecided about purchasing any of the ships. The (9) ship pack is alluring, but costly & I only have (3) Science toons & can pilot only (1) at a time. The lack of customization & differences between the factions seem too shallow to me, but I have piloted the Anniversary version & I do like all (3) designs somewhat.
I appreciate the 4th Anniversary event. I too "grinded" for (4) of the ships & enjoyed the storyline, mini-games, & mission overall. Keep up the good work.
They all seem like good ships & I am sure having both sets' bonuses are a boon.
Who gives a damn? It is only the ship classes named that. You name your ship whatever the hell you want, while making sure to stay within the rules, and what you name your ship is what everybody sees above your character in space. Nobody can see the name of your ship class.
Besides, when viewing info on other players, it's been broken since season 7. If their ship even shows up, it usually has it marked that they are in a shuttle when you can clearly see them in their starship. Most information such as biography, character species, etc., are blank along with the ship name and type.
Edit: Basically, ship classes are nothing more than customization options. The same with uniforms. Nobody can see the name of what you are wearing.
Who gives a damn? It is only the ship classes named that. You name your ship whatever the hell you want, while making sure to stay within the rules, and what you name your ship is what everybody sees above your character in space. Nobody can see the name of your ship class.
Besides, when viewing info on other players, it's been broken since season 7. If their ship even shows up, it usually has it marked that they are in a shuttle when you can clearly see them in their starship. Most information such as biography, character species, etc., are blank along with the ship name and type.
Edit: Basically, ship classes are nothing more than customization options. The same with uniforms. Nobody can see the name of what you are wearing.
Ship classes are not a customisation option. You couldnt have a defiant class and then change it so it looks like a Galaxy. The class of ship is the model, Yes you can name the ship what ever you want but I think you are mistaking that for the class.
I'm one of the one who thinks the Montgomery should be a engineer ship (I'm not a engineer captain) But Montgomery Scott is the first name that springs to mind when thinking of Trek.
Also as for seeing ships names in Space yes you can't see the class name but you can tell the ship class by looking at it and if your a trekkie You know the class it is.
NO TO ARC
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
... That's like 50 dollars / 40 euro, seriously who is doing market research at Cryptic? have you any idea what 50 dollars would buy in other F2P MMOs?
There no value in this, are you out of your Ferengi minds?!
Hahaha! I see What you did there "Ferengi minds". That might just be my all time favourite pun ever.
Yeah I remained pretty open minded about supporting STO(Perfect World) financially. I figure they are entitled to put food on their tables. I don't believe in pirating copyrighted materials etc, I take pride in doing my bit to support someone creating something that deserves to grow; if I can't afford something I look elsewhere for my gratification - it's a big, varied, and very interesting planet we live on. Spent money on ZEN for things I didn't need frankly because of poor documentation but didn't get upset at the time (I now have strong suspicions this is deliberate, benefit of the doubt is now next to zero). Got extra inventory and bank slots quite early on. I got my lifetime membership, so I think I now have priority access to the masochistic experience in futility that is their "Support" (I am suddenly imagining open plan desks manned by Borg with headsets on cheap furniture "Your call has been closed! Assistance is Futile!"). I then discovered much to my dismay that the inventory slots I bought are only applied to that character.... ???! Buyer beware, they might have said something but I probably didn't understand the difference between character and account at the time. Such appallingly bad value for money is beyond anything I have experienced in my life up until now.
They can't be generous and unlock the Raptor give away I missed out on because of their ineptly coordinated and all too routine server maintenance. It would cost them so little and earn them so much good will "Here, we'll give you all the benfit of the doubt, have it, celebrate with us!" This is not a big deal but it all adds up, I'm ashamed I was once interested.
And now 99 euros for the 3 paper boats. (not nine!) (I live in UK so thats 81 GBP, which is 136 USD, Ha! Hahaha! HAHAHAHAHAH!!, oh my oh my that's funny). Well thanks for making that decision easy for me. They could easily have got more money out of me for many years to come. But I give up now.
And as for the ARC client. It insists on Administrative privileges to all times to run. Incompetent design, appalling! It has also installed plugins in IE and Firefox, WHAT A #@*$ING CHEEK! What are those plugins doing PW?!! And recently when I try to go to the STO official website, I get force redirected to ARC Beta and what a pile of ... that is. I can't even scroll to the footer of the page let alone find the content I'm looking for. They can't even manage a half decent bit of web design at the moment.
This rant is the most entertainment I've had out of them in a month. Maybe things will change. But it's free to play only from now on, and I have little enthusiasm for that either. Anything else I really wouldn't have if someone else paid them for the ZEN and gifted it to me. I feel they have helped me fool myself.
The Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers are now available in the C-Store! To celebrate their release, we hope you enjoy this new spotlight video that features them here.
IMPORTANT NOTE: All nine Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers are available in the C-Store for individual sale (2,500 ZEN) or as a 3-pack factional bundle (5,000 ZEN; over 33% savings!). As each faction has their own 3-pack bundle of Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers, for even more savings, you can choose to purchase all 9 ships in a 9-pack bundle (10,000 ZEN; over 55% savings!). Purchasing any one of the 9 ships individually, or any one of the 3-pack bundles, will make the account ineligible to purchase the 9-pack bundle. Also, purchasing one of the factional ships individually will make the account ineligible to purchase that factions 3-pack bundle. Once the 9-pack bundle is purchased, the individual faction appropriate ships become available to claim on each character on your account via the C-Store.
Holy *&^%!!! 10 THOUSAND Z points? are you nuts? that's 100 Dollars, that's insane, at 100 bucks that would purchase WAY more then ships in another F2P MMO
And at what point are we going to admit to ourselves that PWE has been straining the definition of MICRO in micro-transaction.
And this plainly blows it out of the water.
I can't even use the worse to describe how insanely bad of idea this is because it would violate the TOS agreement on cursing.
This is simply beyond greed. Do you realize at $100, that's more then a paid expansion to pretty much ANY MMO, even W.o.W. expansions are not that expensive.
This is really bad show on Cryptic's and PWEs part. And the clear lack of business ethics only further reinforces the idea that, your company truly is becoming if not already in fact, Evil.
I don't know how anyone on the design team, marketing, or even the janitor would think this was a good idea.
I hope if there is any shame in you people, that you are feeling very low right now, and if your not and have no shame, then you truly are horrible human beings.
I do want to make one observation that is poor about this pack deal... Which is that while you would get a solid science ship for all three factions in order to fully enjoy them and get the most out of them you need the secondary deflector from the ship you had to grind for during this year's event.
Why do I bring this up?
Because it means that if you did not do this for EVERY SINGLE TOON you want to use these ships on then those ships are never going to be as good or useful as those that you got the secondary deflector for. This means that in a way if you want to use this pack to get a science ship in the future you will have an eternally ALMOST complete ship that cannot be fully completed because the last part of the ship is still locked behind this event.
this is what reaction to ship release over saturation looks like, a tottal turn off on the whole thing, not helped by the fact that all the ships being released at once are basically stat clones of each other. multiple 1 packs at once is even pushing your luck cryptic.
Agreed $25.00 for 1 Faction's Dyson ship 3 pack that's 1 thing but $100.00 for the 9 Pack is a Complete Joke i know now Why i wouldn't Support a Company like This as Absolutly Everything in their C-Store is Far too Highlly Overpriced ! :rolleyes: I'd rather give my Money to BLIZZARD! at least They have Real Coustomer support let alone and at least their Game's Online Store prices aren't Overpriced.
Because it means that if you did not do this for EVERY SINGLE TOON you want to use these ships on then those ships are never going to be as good or useful as those that you got the secondary deflector for. This means that in a way if you want to use this pack to get a science ship in the future you will have an eternally ALMOST complete ship that cannot be fully completed because the last part of the ship is still locked behind this event.
Well if I remember correctly I read somewhere that all sci ships will be getting a secondary deflector slot, which means secondary deflectors will be introduced as an item in the game. This means it will not be left incomplete.
After all, when mentioning Star Trek & stating the name Montgomery if the first character you think of isn't Montgomery Scott you may not be a Trekkie.
Or you could be both a Trekkie and know your history, therefore know that calling the Tac ship Montgomery class, would make sense. Given that ship classes named after specific people tend to use the surname not the first name. If the engineering class was named after Scotty, following the general naming convention, then it would be the called the Scott class and not the Montgomery class.
Well if I remember correctly I read somewhere that all sci ships will be getting a secondary deflector slot, which means secondary deflectors will be introduced as an item in the game. This means it will not be left incomplete.
I am aware of that and each of these ships comes with its own secondary deflector BUT the one that combines with the console set of these ships that makes them all that much better can ONLY be obtained by grinding for the event ship because that is the only ship that has that particular secondary deflector.
I am aware of that and each of these ships comes with its own secondary deflector BUT the one that combines with the console set of these ships that makes them all that much better can ONLY be obtained by grinding for the event ship because that is the only ship that has that particular secondary deflector.
Then I apologise as I misunderstood you post.
I would not be surprised if that deflector ended up in the lobi or dil store at a later date.
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I am on several 3-D forums and there are many fan made ships that follow the fed ship design but looked different. I've even made a few of my own.
Here is a link to some other people designs:
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Masterson-Class-Frigate-Finished-278196694
http://www.deviantart.com/art/USS-Cadence-Wallpaper-145644846
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-USS-Starfire-302148011
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-Ship-3D-Commission-339185543
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Alternate-Generations-WIP-1-275158045
I think Cryptic is being too lazy in making new ships. I would kick the ship designers in the behind. If fans can make ships, why can't Cryptic make ones. The latter would be great for a Dyson/Fed Hybrid with a upper deflector like the USS Titan.
Also this would be interesting.
http://adamkop.deviantart.com/art/USS-Argonaut-orthos-327442499
What gives Cryptic?
Wut? Doesn't come with a secondary deflector?
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to make it worth, you'd have to buy at least a 3 piece faction bundle, correct ?
What do you mean by moving parts ? Except for the tactical mode ... Which you knew you'd have before buying.
Thought they're all equal ?
Why would the FED one be worse ? I know somebody else commented on that ...
Except for the singularity obviously for the romulan.
Lol I know a few of those guys, one I am a good friend with and you're right most fan designs are better than the Federation designs Cryptic makes. They don't have much talent when it comes to Federation designs yet they seem to do a remarkable job with all other species/factions.
To your first question the answer is: Yes.
The FED one is worst because it does not have any sort of Cloak.
The KDF one has notably stronger Hull and normal Cloak.
The Romulan one has similar stats to the Fed one BUT it has Romulan Battlecloak AND Singularity Powers which puts it solidly ahead of the others.
Because my main is a Fed Science, perhaps? The others are nice but my KDF and Rom Sci toons don't get enough love right now to warrant buying either of their respective ships/ship packs.
Best thing is they bypass the EFleet system!
Now if we can get all Fleet ships offered in the C-Store like this there would be lots more $$$ for you Cryptic.
All you people crying about all the "work" you put in for Fleet ships pipe down. Those of us that have to really work for a living so all the slackers can get a free ride and play all day long without a care don't really feel your pain. We deserve to have nice things as well seeing we are supporting you and the game.
Again, Good Show Cryptic! More like this please.
What? Some of the player base actually work including me. I'm one of the people knocking the new ships. The stats of the ship is no typical then other ships and so what you get some consoles that does a lot of colorful things. The ships are still sub-par. The KDF and Romulan ships are decent. The Federation version is garbage and needs to be recalled.
Now if you try to say I'm a free loader. I play a little smarter. I payed 5 bucks for my Haakona. That was my gift to Cryptic for giving us garbage content and a buggie online experience.
There hasn't been anything worth shelling out big bucks. Now, if you want to work and give Cryptic some of your days work. When they are being lazy probably drinking coffee, go for it! Power to you.
I have hardly any time to play and yet managed to grind out 1 of each faction's anniversary ships so no excuse for those less hampered by RL.
The ship should stay as. I highly doubt the KDF/Romulan will get nerfed.
There are going to be Fed players crying or complaining. Cryptic response, you should have gotten the Vesta and we already got your $$$. In PVP, Cryptic just gave me a new ship to target first with a vapor attack or alpha strike. Some of the ship can be debuffed with one of these http://sto.gamepedia.com/Subspace_Field_Modulator. Since, the Fed ship does not have cloaked, that console does wonders.
If people want to experience PvP tactics without the embarrasment, try fighting the Voth, they use basically the same (annoying) series of debuffs and holds.
Voth is a joke to me. The only thing I cant beat in 30 seconds is the dreadnought.
But you have to admit they are annoying.
Just like PvP.
And where's my Voth repair Ship!? I should have gotten one after T5 in the Dyson Rep.
Annoying. Since they don't last long. I am not sure. The repair ship concept was good but if someone can take out a Voth ship 15 seconds flat then what repair ship. That's like a 2 second lasting life.
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Agree with this ^
I have a big issue when somebody calls something FREE, and yet, you have to perform a task (Party Patrol) AND pay virtual currency (Qmendations) in order to get it.
IMO, that's not FREE. It's not the act of grinding for the ship itself that I am upset about, it's the somantics... Don't call something FREE if it really isn't. In this case, the ship is a product, and the Party Patrol/Qmendations are the price of that product.
And I really like how it's said that the Dyson Mega pack costs 10K Zen (A 55% savings). Here's my question... where are the savings?
You pay 10K zen for 3 pretty much identical ships per faction, (aside from some coloring differences here and there) and 9 console pieces. Look at the Vesta pack (for example) at least that ship set had different hull, nacelle, saucer, pylon pieces you could mix and match.
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I see... Well... That is alright but I must say the Aventine with full 3 pack is superior in several ways. Though the Dyson ship is a bit tougher and less complicated once set up properly.
For the LOVE OF Q... The Voth use ANTIproton NOT PROTON. That device resists the Voth like it does EVERYTHING else. No one but players use Proton at the moment.
Perhaps a Moderator or a Cryptic employee would be willing to dive more indepth about how & why the naming process is there would be less rolling of the eyes. This Moderator gave "a" theory about why the Tactical was titled Montgomery instead of the Engineering, but didn't go furthur about the other names like Omega & Helios nor the other factional Advanced Science Destroyers. Why is this Tactical named after a ... name & the others are not? Are some names staying with Trek canon & some names are using real-life references? Explaining the reasoning & process about this decision & others would be interesting. It might make an insightful Developer's Blog someday.
After all, when mentioning Star Trek & stating the name Montgomery if the first character you think of isn't Montgomery Scott you may not be a Trekkie.
I'm still undecided about purchasing any of the ships. The (9) ship pack is alluring, but costly & I only have (3) Science toons & can pilot only (1) at a time. The lack of customization & differences between the factions seem too shallow to me, but I have piloted the Anniversary version & I do like all (3) designs somewhat.
I appreciate the 4th Anniversary event. I too "grinded" for (4) of the ships & enjoyed the storyline, mini-games, & mission overall. Keep up the good work.
They all seem like good ships & I am sure having both sets' bonuses are a boon.
Who gives a damn? It is only the ship classes named that. You name your ship whatever the hell you want, while making sure to stay within the rules, and what you name your ship is what everybody sees above your character in space. Nobody can see the name of your ship class.
Besides, when viewing info on other players, it's been broken since season 7. If their ship even shows up, it usually has it marked that they are in a shuttle when you can clearly see them in their starship. Most information such as biography, character species, etc., are blank along with the ship name and type.
Edit: Basically, ship classes are nothing more than customization options. The same with uniforms. Nobody can see the name of what you are wearing.
Ship classes are not a customisation option. You couldnt have a defiant class and then change it so it looks like a Galaxy. The class of ship is the model, Yes you can name the ship what ever you want but I think you are mistaking that for the class.
I'm one of the one who thinks the Montgomery should be a engineer ship (I'm not a engineer captain) But Montgomery Scott is the first name that springs to mind when thinking of Trek.
Also as for seeing ships names in Space yes you can't see the class name but you can tell the ship class by looking at it and if your a trekkie You know the class it is.
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Hahaha! I see What you did there "Ferengi minds". That might just be my all time favourite pun ever.
Yeah I remained pretty open minded about supporting STO(Perfect World) financially. I figure they are entitled to put food on their tables. I don't believe in pirating copyrighted materials etc, I take pride in doing my bit to support someone creating something that deserves to grow; if I can't afford something I look elsewhere for my gratification - it's a big, varied, and very interesting planet we live on. Spent money on ZEN for things I didn't need frankly because of poor documentation but didn't get upset at the time (I now have strong suspicions this is deliberate, benefit of the doubt is now next to zero). Got extra inventory and bank slots quite early on. I got my lifetime membership, so I think I now have priority access to the masochistic experience in futility that is their "Support" (I am suddenly imagining open plan desks manned by Borg with headsets on cheap furniture "Your call has been closed! Assistance is Futile!"). I then discovered much to my dismay that the inventory slots I bought are only applied to that character.... ???! Buyer beware, they might have said something but I probably didn't understand the difference between character and account at the time. Such appallingly bad value for money is beyond anything I have experienced in my life up until now.
They can't be generous and unlock the Raptor give away I missed out on because of their ineptly coordinated and all too routine server maintenance. It would cost them so little and earn them so much good will "Here, we'll give you all the benfit of the doubt, have it, celebrate with us!" This is not a big deal but it all adds up, I'm ashamed I was once interested.
And now 99 euros for the 3 paper boats. (not nine!) (I live in UK so thats 81 GBP, which is 136 USD, Ha! Hahaha! HAHAHAHAHAH!!, oh my oh my that's funny). Well thanks for making that decision easy for me. They could easily have got more money out of me for many years to come. But I give up now.
And as for the ARC client. It insists on Administrative privileges to all times to run. Incompetent design, appalling! It has also installed plugins in IE and Firefox, WHAT A #@*$ING CHEEK! What are those plugins doing PW?!! And recently when I try to go to the STO official website, I get force redirected to ARC Beta and what a pile of ... that is. I can't even scroll to the footer of the page let alone find the content I'm looking for. They can't even manage a half decent bit of web design at the moment.
This rant is the most entertainment I've had out of them in a month. Maybe things will change. But it's free to play only from now on, and I have little enthusiasm for that either. Anything else I really wouldn't have if someone else paid them for the ZEN and gifted it to me. I feel they have helped me fool myself.
Holy *&^%!!! 10 THOUSAND Z points? are you nuts? that's 100 Dollars, that's insane, at 100 bucks that would purchase WAY more then ships in another F2P MMO
And at what point are we going to admit to ourselves that PWE has been straining the definition of MICRO in micro-transaction.
And this plainly blows it out of the water.
I can't even use the worse to describe how insanely bad of idea this is because it would violate the TOS agreement on cursing.
This is simply beyond greed. Do you realize at $100, that's more then a paid expansion to pretty much ANY MMO, even W.o.W. expansions are not that expensive.
This is really bad show on Cryptic's and PWEs part. And the clear lack of business ethics only further reinforces the idea that, your company truly is becoming if not already in fact, Evil.
I don't know how anyone on the design team, marketing, or even the janitor would think this was a good idea.
I hope if there is any shame in you people, that you are feeling very low right now, and if your not and have no shame, then you truly are horrible human beings.
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Its too hard to explain.
Why do I bring this up?
Because it means that if you did not do this for EVERY SINGLE TOON you want to use these ships on then those ships are never going to be as good or useful as those that you got the secondary deflector for. This means that in a way if you want to use this pack to get a science ship in the future you will have an eternally ALMOST complete ship that cannot be fully completed because the last part of the ship is still locked behind this event.
Agreed $25.00 for 1 Faction's Dyson ship 3 pack that's 1 thing but $100.00 for the 9 Pack is a Complete Joke i know now Why i wouldn't Support a Company like This as Absolutly Everything in their C-Store is Far too Highlly Overpriced ! :rolleyes: I'd rather give my Money to BLIZZARD! at least They have Real Coustomer support let alone and at least their Game's Online Store prices aren't Overpriced.
Well if I remember correctly I read somewhere that all sci ships will be getting a secondary deflector slot, which means secondary deflectors will be introduced as an item in the game. This means it will not be left incomplete.
Or you could be both a Trekkie and know your history, therefore know that calling the Tac ship Montgomery class, would make sense. Given that ship classes named after specific people tend to use the surname not the first name. If the engineering class was named after Scotty, following the general naming convention, then it would be the called the Scott class and not the Montgomery class.
I am aware of that and each of these ships comes with its own secondary deflector BUT the one that combines with the console set of these ships that makes them all that much better can ONLY be obtained by grinding for the event ship because that is the only ship that has that particular secondary deflector.
Then I apologise as I misunderstood you post.
I would not be surprised if that deflector ended up in the lobi or dil store at a later date.