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STO on Pads

jazzmagjazzmag Member Posts: 36 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Windows and General: PC, Network, and Other Technical Issues
Looking to get a win 8 pad to replace my decrepid laptop.

Anyone tell me the cheapest one that'll run STO?

Not bothered about silly detail medium settings are just fine.
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  • risingstar2009risingstar2009 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    None. Get a decent Laptop for about $600 with a dedicated graphics card.

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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I tested it on my mothers HP Envy Tablet on min settings... Was horrible... So at least go higher than that.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jazzmag wrote: »
    Looking to get a win 8 pad to replace my decrepid laptop.

    Anyone tell me the cheapest one that'll run STO?

    Not bothered about silly detail medium settings are just fine.

    STO is NOT a graphically intensive game. If your laptop can handle Skyrim with lowered settings, it can handle STO.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Wait, sorry. Misread that. I didn't know STO was available for -Pads. Still waiting for the Android version, though.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    Wait, sorry. Misread that. I didn't know STO was available for -Pads. Still waiting for the Android version, though.

    STO will run on any NON-RT Win 8 tablet... it will NOT run on the Arm architecture.

    Edit:

    Also, it's called tablet...

    Pads indicates it's an iPad, wich as you may know is one of the least interesting and flexible tablets out there.
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  • jazzmagjazzmag Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    There are quite a few tablets that have i5's you're not telling me one of them couldn't run STO.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jazzmag wrote: »
    There are quite a few tablets that have i5's you're not telling me one of them couldn't run STO.

    It's not a question of strength, it's a question of architecture. It would be like trying to fix a smarphone with a wheel... it's just not compatible.

    There are several apps that you can run on a regular Mac, that you can't run on the iPads either... Again... Compatibility.

    EDIT: And that said, I havn't tried running the MAC version of STO on a iPad yet, so it may work, but I seriously doubt it.
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  • jazzmagjazzmag Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Don't the pro versions run full windows 8? Surely they can run any windows application
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jazzmag wrote: »
    Don't the pro versions run full windows 8? Surely they can run any windows application

    PC windows 8 and tablet windows 8 while having the same functionality, are two entirely different beasts. They tried using windows 8 tablet OS for a PC, it just did not work.
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  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    It's not a question of strength, it's a question of architecture. It would be like trying to fix a smarphone with a wheel... it's just not compatible.

    There are several apps that you can run on a regular Mac, that you can't run on the iPads either... Again... Compatibility.

    EDIT: And that said, I havn't tried running the MAC version of STO on a iPad yet, so it may work, but I seriously doubt it.

    You can't run Mac STO on an iPad, or any Mac apps for that matter. They'd need to be recompiled for ARM processors and to use the mobile versions of the Mac OS framework libraries. Although, I bet if it were to be recompiled it could probably run at at least medium-high graphics settings on the newest iPad. That thing is a beast.

    To the OP regarding the i5s in tablets, you'd probably be ok if it's from the latest generation of i5s. The on-chip graphics aren't as terrible as they used to be. You'd be better off if there was one that had a discreet graphics chip onboard, but I'm not sure how common that is in tablets.

    Basically, you're options are limited to tablets with Intel chips and Windows, since that's what STO needs. Just get the best one of those you can afford.
  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    STO will run on any NON-RT Win 8 tablet... it will NOT run on the Arm architecture.

    Edit:

    Also, it's called tablet...

    Pads indicates it's an iPad, wich as you may know is one of the least interesting and flexible tablets out there.

    It's possible that the OP means a PADD, which of course is the tablet of the Star Trek universe. I suppose characters in Star Trek playing STO on a PADD would be like us playing Second Life.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    It's not a question of strength, it's a question of architecture. It would be like trying to fix a smarphone with a wheel... it's just not compatible.

    There are several apps that you can run on a regular Mac, that you can't run on the iPads either... Again... Compatibility.

    EDIT: And that said, I havn't tried running the MAC version of STO on a iPad yet, so it may work, but I seriously doubt it.

    Well that obviously wouldn't work. Since Macs and IPads still have different operating systems. OSX is not IOS.

    But as far as I know those win tablets just use the current windows version... so that might technically work.
    I seriously doubt it will be fun though. Computers (like Laptops and Macs) and pads might share a lot of functions, but ultimately, at least for me, a pad does not replace a Computer.

    P.s. An STO app with some "advanced gateway functions" would be nice though^^
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    PC windows 8 and tablet windows 8 while having the same functionality, are two entirely different beasts. They tried using windows 8 tablet OS for a PC, it just did not work.

    They're the same thing.

    There is no "PC" Windows 8 or "Tablet" Windows 8. There's Windows 8 and Windows RT - referring to whether they run on x86 or ARM processors respectively.



    To the OP - I believe the Surface Pro 2 tablet should be able to run STO relatively well. People on another forum I visit have mentioned running Skyrim on it.
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  • dechala1dechala1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I play on a windows 8 surface pro, medium-high graphics, without issue. I wouldn't rely too much on the touch screen, the camera goes haywire if you try to pan. Other than that, keep it plugged in as it crushes battery, and id strongly suggest using the Xbox controller if you don't want to hook it up to a larger monitor.

    Hope that helps.
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    STO is NOT a graphically intensive game.

    then why does it bring a 7970 to less than 20 fps in the 20 man stf's ?
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Sto is on pads???? I guess Aunt flow came early :D
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    PC windows 8 and tablet windows 8 while having the same functionality, are two entirely different beasts. They tried using windows 8 tablet OS for a PC, it just did not work.

    NO... nonononononoon....

    As long as the Windows is not RT, it should run any regular windows application... At least thats the case with any non-RT version I've tried thus far.
    dukeskyloafer wrote: »
    You can't run Mac STO on an iPad, or any Mac apps for that matter. ~snip
    dukeskyloafer wrote: »
    ~snip


    Isn't that what I said, only in Light version?
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  • jazzmagjazzmag Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ok then, can someone recommend a non RT tablet that will run STO? I'm assuming that you can link Bluetooth peripherals to them and use the tablet as an all in one kind of vibe.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jazzmag wrote: »
    Ok then, can someone recommend a non RT tablet that will run STO? I'm assuming that you can link Bluetooth peripherals to them and use the tablet as an all in one kind of vibe.

    The Surface tabs seem to be proper for the job, based on what has been said above, and most of the Surfaces I've seen come with a dockable BT keyboard.
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  • twometertwometer Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I game primarily on my i7 with an GTX 580. But when I travel I play STO on my First Gen Surface Pro. I have a mouse and a TypeCover and I get around just fine. Few issues tho if you are looking at a tablet to use for gaming.

    Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2 use the Ivy Bridge and Haswell integrated graphics. So it will be good, but not great.

    Battery Drain is key.. Keep it plugged in.

    Finally I would say $899 (base) gets you a 64gb Surface Pro 2. Plus add another 70-120 for a touch over or TypeCover and a mouse. It will run you $1000 just to get it up and going.

    I wouldn't say no because I love my Surface Pro.. But be aware of the limitations.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jazzmag wrote: »
    Don't the pro versions run full windows 8? Surely they can run any windows application

    Yes, the Pro versions use intel CPUs and bring a full Windows.

    Windows RT or "Surface without the Pro" cannot run regular desktop software. (Though under the hood, it appears Windows RT is "just" a Windows compiled for the ARM achitecture, that doesn't help you.)

    But Surface Pro is not exactly cheap, IIRC. But they are good tablets that should have sufficient power to run STO. I am not sure what other non-ARM based Windows tablets exist.
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  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    usscapital wrote: »
    then why does it bring a 7970 to less than 20 fps in the 20 man stf's ?

    Slightly off topic, but if you have a 7970 and your fps is dropping that low ANYWHERE in STO, odds are your cpu is acting as a bottle neck (ie. you perhaps have an AMD CPU too... lol).

    I'm running a 7870 Tahiti LE card with an I5 3570k and my frame rates NEVER drop below about 70fps with all settings maxed out.

    On the topic of running STO on a tablet, why on earth would you actually want to? It's not like you are going to be able to play on the move (which would seem to be the point of a tablet in the first place), so at most you'd want to play it on a laptop. Squinting at a tiny screen with some cut down control method doesn't sound like a lot of fun to me.
  • jazzmagjazzmag Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Think you're right there, with these prices I'd be better off with a decent lappy
  • overloadedawcoverloadedawc Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Is it possible to download an app to play sto on an ipad
  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    overloadedawc wrote: »
    Is it possible to download an app to play sto on an ipad
    No, and nope. No.
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    overloadedawc wrote: »
    Is it possible to download an app to play sto on an ipad

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and again...no.
    Absolutely not. Though gateway might work through a browser but that's hardly playing sto now, is it?
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    What *IS* possible, is to use software to execute the client on a host PC and then access the running client from a tablet.

    I've demo'd some of the pay-for apps that do it and they do seem to work, but I couldn't actually see myself playing on it. I could fly around and do doff missions, tho.

    And, while I do not own one to test, one of those laptop/tablet hybrid models with a x86 processor and full Win 8 should at least be able to understand the software. I'm not familiar with the strength of their graphics hardware, which is likely where you would run into problems. Again, I don't own one but my non-gaming friend does and it is a pretty potent little unit...

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