If you would have read the entire article you would see that that is exactly what they are doing.
You can buy the ships individually, you can buy factional 3-packs, or you can buy the whole lot of them as a single 9-pack.
i read the entire blogs, however the fed blog hasnt materialized, i say it is likely because i do not know for 100% certainty that it is the case without knowing what will come from the blog about the fed sci destroyer.. unless you read that blog before it gets released. so it is "likely" until otherwise stated.
yeah you can buy them on their own but then shoot yourself in the foot in the process unless by your own logic you think thats wise..
NOTE: Purchasing any one of the 9 ships individually, or any one of the 3-pack bundles, will make the account ineligible to purchase the 9-pack bundle. Also, purchasing one of the factional ships individually will make the account ineligible to purchase that factions 3-pack bundle.
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Yeah I'm gonna pass on this even with the 10k for a ship pack of 9 it would have to be on a really big sale for me to entertain the thought of using these. They don't seem to be that great or anything much more than a gimmick to milk the dyson rep for all its worth which isn't much.
I just hope they don't turn this into another bortas incident where they make a crappy ship and then blame it on the playerbase for not buying it.
indeed, im passing on it because 10k z is just too much.
the original sci-destroyer will do without issue and thats as far as im going on it. sure blame the playerbase if it helps, but only a very few crazy players who have the dilithium count and money will go for it, i doubt beyond maybe an even dozen players in the entire game will have this 9 pack before its swept under the rug. right now im in the process of arming the sci destroy with 2 complete sets (solanae and dyson), proton/polaron beams and the assimilated console. with other things. i hope it's worth the time and effort.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
indeed, im passing on it because 10k z is just too much.
the original sci-destroyer will do without issue and thats as far as im going on it. sure blame the playerbase if it helps, but only a very few crazy players who have the dilithium count and money will go for it, i doubt beyond maybe an even dozen players in the entire game will have this 9 pack before its swept under the rug. right now im in the process of arming the sci destroy with 2 complete sets (solanae and dyson), proton/polaron beams and the assimilated console. with other things. i hope it's worth the time and effort.
Same was said about the first 3 pack, 5k was too much, no one will bother, it's going to fail and so on...
Yet here we are, moving up to a 9 pack - supply and demand..... and endless supply of "more money than sense" people, and a demand from Cryptic for that said money
there was no need to have 3 dyasen cstore ships per faction which is a total of nine ship when each faction could have had one ship each and have all 3 consoles on each faction dyasen ship. personally the dyasen ships i see using fed and kdf are either the tac or the pure sci verson. roms i could role play all dyasen ships on different roms . the only reason that the whole package is any good are for the consoles and character roleplaying differetn set up. which if i want a different set up that badly i would just play a different ship to begin with
On the Fed side, I think I will opt for the Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel or the Fleet Long Range Science Retrofit. Then when it gets the functional secondary deflector I can use it.
Same was said about the first 3 pack, 5k was too much, no one will bother, it's going to fail and so on...
Yet here we are, moving up to a 9 pack - supply and demand..... and endless supply of "more money than sense" people, and a demand from Cryptic for that said money
theres a difference between 5k z and 10k z, less players are gonna have the ability to get at it. thats just a fact.
the 8k dil limit if you started now for 2 characters, your looking at months of grinding. and then there is the cost if you used your own money.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
theres a difference between 5k z and 10k z, less players are gonna have the ability to get at it. thats just a fact.
the 8k dil limit if you started now for 2 characters, your looking at months of grinding. and then there is the cost if you used your own money.
Here, in the UK, the national minimum wage is £6.31. For a 40 hour week (before tax) that is £252.40 (before overtime, tips, bonuses etc)
The 9 pack is roughly £83. (The 99 euro pack covers the 10k Zen with over 1000 Zen spare)
For some, that is not that expensive or will not take that long to save up for, you can mitigate some of the cost with Dil but there is no real need.
A night out (dinner and drinks after) can run you more than that and the is just for 1 night.
I've personally spent over £100 in 1 night on just beer (when I was single, without children - I had money back then).
So really, here in the UK at least, where there is a will, there is a way.
9 ships....for 10,000 ZEN ($100.00)....SERIOUSLY!?
I think everyone should get a major discount for getting the free version of the ship.
That would be a huge bonus if that did that, a discount for people that own the Anniversary ship. That would be a good way to reward our efforts, by giving us a discount on the C-Store ones.
That would be a huge bonus if that did that, a discount for people that own the Anniversary ship. That would be a good way to reward our efforts, by giving us a discount on the C-Store ones.
So u want us to spent our Zen on a Bundle u get 3 nearly identical ships with the same stats, weaponslots, turn etc. ONLY Console Layout is different and u get a unique set console.
So what do u think makes this worth spending 5000 or even 10 000 zen on it??
Indeed , however this time you get a LOT LESS .
How much less ?
As the Klingon and Starfleet factions also each have a 3-pack bundle of Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers, for even more savings, you can choose to purchase all 9 ships in a 9-pack bundle (10,000 ZEN; over 55% savings!).
So ... , asking for a 100$ worth of Zen , and didn't even bother to put up a LoR sized expansion .
As a matter of fact , when they did put out LoR they "sold" the accompanying 100$+ ship pack as a bunch of different ships + keys + Liberated Reman Borg + other stuff .
NOW you're supposed to "buy" the accompanying 100$ ship pack because Cryptic .... gave you a FE , while they simultaneously made you grind for the ships you're about to buy and they took away your weekly Bonus Marks ?
Good for you Cryptic ! :rolleyes:
... and even better for the suckers who will fall for this ...
I think there will make more ships like this in the future 1 ship for the 2 n half factions just a little change in base stats. Other games do it there just jumping on the band wagon. Ive been thinking this since the mogh came out it was not hard to prodict. Its a lazy way to make cash.
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just tryed to comment on this blogs thread it took me to a post adout act plug in.
Im sure ive seen posts by dev saying there dont like add ons to there games now there linking u to a thread about it :-P
Meh, I miss my other posts in this thread and the other one. They had a nice mix of bashing Cryptic, supporting Cryptic, and pointing out how many folks were babbling along without having read either blog (you know, the typical clueless ranting and raving you see from the general populace on the forums)...I guess with it spread out over multiple posts though, it didn't come off as harsh as I just stated, eh?
Oh well, I'll reiterate what I said earlier and what I remember (which isn't much, couldn't tell you what I had for breakfast this morning - heh, okay - I had two cigarettes for breakfast)...
If it is supposed to be a Science Vessel that can go into Tac Mode, then why are they not set up like that in the least? Why are they set up like a Destroyer (yeah, yeah - it's in the name - we should have all seen it coming) that can drop Tac Mode for a little extra Sci action? With the base models, the path was clear for having Sci Vessels that could go Tac. That's no longer the case with the Zen versions. They're Destroyers that can drop Tac.
All because of the Lt Uni instead of the Ens Uni. Yep, you drop the Sci - you're dropping the Sci...like...DUH! Course, a Ens Uni without the Lt Uni would hurt sales to all the Escort kiddies that want to play STO like The Last Starfighter instead of Star Trek. So like all the other compromises made for the unholy dollar...yeah, we can see where Cryptic went. Meh...
As for the folks complaining about the ship that it's just a +1 Console ship - I've got no idea how they're missing the +10% hull and +10% shield mod. I mean, it's like 2nd Grade math at most (heh, math I'm comfortable with...that 3rd Grade math gets pesky!). But yeah, they're you're standard +1/+10%/+10% Fleet/2500 Zen boats...along with the "shiny" that is common to the majority (but not all) of the Zen boats.
As for the folks complaining about the similarities of each of the three boats, and beyond that the similarities of all nine boats - again, did they not even bother to read the blogs? Yeah, you're going to see the standard 3pack operating procedure with each of the 3packs - not much different than anything that they've done over the years with them. Why folks are acting as if this is something new...blows my mind. As for saying they're all the same, even with just the two blogs for the KDF and Roms - it was clear that wasn't the case. Hell, one can look at the free RA boats to see that wasn't the case.
Just a bunch of random forum noise - mindless ranting and raving - no thought...the typical forum fodder that takes place and why some folks avoid areas of these forums like the plague...a plague of stupidity...meh. Seriously, 2nd Grade math and not even 2nd Grade reading...and so many folks are failing to the extreme - it's epic - if you like watching The World's Dumbest on TruTV.
But anyway, yeah - Cryptic should be honest with where they took the ships for the Zen versions - they're not Science Vessels that go Tac, they're Destroyers (just like in the name) that can drop Tac...or go Sci. So change up the narrative and the ability, from going to Tac Mode to going to Sci Mode...and at least be honest about this nonsense rather than making folks think you were actually doing a Sci Vessel...
I would have posted this in the Romulan ship thread but since it has disappeared, I'll go ahead and post it in this one.
These ships held so much promise and potential, but in my opinion what stats have been released so far has made me not want to get any of them.
You fuse a Proton DHC to the ship, why? Why on earth is this piece of junk fused on to my ship? Lets all face the facts, Proton weapons = bad. Since this ship is forced to carry a bad weapon from the start, why on earth would I want to use it?
I really liked the concept of switching between tactical and science loadout mid combat. I thought that this was a fantastic idea that would be further expanded upon with the 3 pack ships. Instead it was basically a few console layout changes, big deal.
I would have much rather seen a tactical and engineering mode added where you could have swapped real quick between these types of layouts.
All in all, these ships to me had a lot of potential, but unfortunately I don't think even a single one of them is going to be worth using to me.
Meh, I miss my other posts in this thread and the other one. They had a nice mix of bashing Cryptic, supporting Cryptic, and pointing out how many folks were babbling along without having read either blog (you know, the typical clueless ranting and raving you see from the general populace on the forums)...I guess with it spread out over multiple posts though, it didn't come off as harsh as I just stated, eh?
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Your comment is noise to me. Frankly a 10% increase is not much.
First, There are plenty of ships close to the same hull and shield requiring no extra goodies.
Second, Who in the hell create ships sets with a weapon type that cannot be updated? When was the last time you seen proton weapons in the dithium store or fleet weapon store. Thirdly, The ships are not truly unique looking to their faction except the Romulan version?.
Fourth, Cryptic made the different bridge skin available to free ships after complaints about the bridge?
Fifth, the bridges do not look like hybrid bridges.
SIxth, No faction specific skin. Sixth, most of the performance you can get from other ships that are more specialized.
Seven, it's ultra bs. I can think of other points. I can continue ...
not gonna talk about price. but ermm I've looked at the 3 Klingon ships and the 3 romulans ships. what I really should have said is the 1 Klingon ship and 1 romulan ship. seriously can't tell the difference. pretty much as bad if not worse than the difference between the 3 scimitars.
also another disappointment is the ability to change the skin. I'd rather my warbirds look romulan personal preference. the dyson skin looks awful imo but the shape of the romulan warbird tempts me. but I wouldn't part with a single penny on a ship I thought was fugly. you don't buy your dream car in a colour you don't like if you catch my drift.
It's standard. Every Fleet ship and any Fleet quality Zen ship has a 10% boost for hull and shield mod over what would constitute their predecessor. It's consistent. It's the way things are done. Can see where somebody might not think it much - if they've got no idea about the mechanics behind it and what that 10% increase can mean once you work in the skills/gear/resistances to get to the effective totals.
Second, Who in the hell create ships sets with a weapon type that cannot be updated?
The slot only exists for that weapon. It's no different than certain ships having certain abilities that other ships do not have. Certain Cruisers have four Cruiser Commands, some have three, and there's two sets of two...some ships have Sensor Analysis, some don't - some ships have X, some don't. These ships have the Proton DHCs in Tac Mode...other ships don't.
Thirdly, The ships are not truly unique looking to their faction except the Romulan version?
Really? You're joking, right? The Fed Destroyers look like Fed Cruisers, the Rom Destroyers look like Rom Warbirds, and the KDF Destroyers look like KDF Battle Cruisers. Yeah, you have to be joking...
Fifth, the bridges do not look like hybrid bridges.
Um yeah, bridges...um...not trying to be dismissive of any complaints about them in the least, I know there are folks that get all bent out of shape about them and stuff...but honestly, outside of a couple of missions where you have to go inside the ship - yeah, I don't go inside the ship. So I can't really comment on those folks that like to log in to STO to stand around inside their ships...how they waste their time, er spend their time, is up to them - and Cryptic should listen to their complaints for all the overall value those complaints have...
Wouldn't that have been sixth? Meh, but I suppose it's extremely important for the folks that are playing the Barbie 'n Ken Star Fashionstravaganza, eh? Then again, there are several ships out there with zero customization options...
Other migitgating factors not withstanding (such as the abysmal Boff seating), the Dyson Secondary deflector is still confined to the Anniversary version, so as I see it, it's not a complete set and therefore, isn't worth buying.
Those variations look nice - if minimalist -, but i'd need to see the Romulan and Fed ones, but that probably won't change my opinion on the decisions made regarding these ships.
Next!
Ditto this for the Romulan version. Next!
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$100 dollars doesn't sound so bad when PWE are trying to charge their European players $123.77 if they use the website payment portal or better yet $137.54 if they use the arc payment portal for the same ships :mad:
also another disappointment is the ability to change the skin. I'd rather my warbirds look romulan personal preference. the dyson skin look looks awful imo but the shape of the romulan warbird tempts me. but I wouldn't with a single penny on a ship I thought was fugly. you don't buy your dream car in a colour you don't like if you catch my drift.
Though the last part comes off as extremely shallow, with the work they've done with this blog post: http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=1094401 :it's definitely surprising that the DSDs weren't included, eh? It's just one of those logical things, eh? Not so much the style over substance and need to look pretty that's come across in some of the posts, but rather just the logical thing...
The same would go for any of the ships though, these aren't the first ships that get "screwed" in this manner...but yeah, faction - should have the option for faction skins - based on the player, not the ship. If folks want to sport the Joint Command skin, awesome - if they want to sport the skin of their faction...it's only logical that it should be available, eh?
$100 dollars doesn't sound so bad when PWE are trying to charge their European players $123.77 if they use the website payment portal or better yet $137.54 if they use the arc payment portal for the same ships :mad:
PWE definitely needs to get those payment things straightened out...it's not something that affects me, cause I'm er - here - not there - but it's just one of those illogical things that's freaking annoying, eh? You don't want to see somebody else end up jacked over something like that...
Regarding the Secondary Deflector, they may have actually wanted not to give away that they were doing these ships (although everybody knew) - so it may be something that's addressed when they're released...though outside of the beta groups that test the ships, I'm not sure how you'd know that it actually didn't work with the other ships...and if you were part of one of those groups, well - you couldn't tell us about it...so just speculation?
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i read the entire blogs, however the fed blog hasnt materialized, i say it is likely because i do not know for 100% certainty that it is the case without knowing what will come from the blog about the fed sci destroyer.. unless you read that blog before it gets released. so it is "likely" until otherwise stated.
yeah you can buy them on their own but then shoot yourself in the foot in the process unless by your own logic you think thats wise..
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I just hope they don't turn this into another bortas incident where they make a crappy ship and then blame it on the playerbase for not buying it.
the original sci-destroyer will do without issue and thats as far as im going on it. sure blame the playerbase if it helps, but only a very few crazy players who have the dilithium count and money will go for it, i doubt beyond maybe an even dozen players in the entire game will have this 9 pack before its swept under the rug. right now im in the process of arming the sci destroy with 2 complete sets (solanae and dyson), proton/polaron beams and the assimilated console. with other things. i hope it's worth the time and effort.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Same was said about the first 3 pack, 5k was too much, no one will bother, it's going to fail and so on...
Yet here we are, moving up to a 9 pack - supply and demand..... and endless supply of "more money than sense" people, and a demand from Cryptic for that said money
theres a difference between 5k z and 10k z, less players are gonna have the ability to get at it. thats just a fact.
the 8k dil limit if you started now for 2 characters, your looking at months of grinding. and then there is the cost if you used your own money.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Here, in the UK, the national minimum wage is £6.31. For a 40 hour week (before tax) that is £252.40 (before overtime, tips, bonuses etc)
The 9 pack is roughly £83. (The 99 euro pack covers the 10k Zen with over 1000 Zen spare)
For some, that is not that expensive or will not take that long to save up for, you can mitigate some of the cost with Dil but there is no real need.
A night out (dinner and drinks after) can run you more than that and the is just for 1 night.
I've personally spent over £100 in 1 night on just beer (when I was single, without children - I had money back then).
So really, here in the UK at least, where there is a will, there is a way.
That would be a huge bonus if that did that, a discount for people that own the Anniversary ship. That would be a good way to reward our efforts, by giving us a discount on the C-Store ones.
But it'll never happen
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Which is what scares me, seriously... more of this kind of thing is what we can probably expect, and that doesn't sit well with me.
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10,000 IS the discount price.
A top tier ship is 2,500 per ship, per faction.
2,500 x 9 = 22,500
I own the Oddy (pack), Bortas (pack) and Scim (pack), that cost the bundle prices of;
5,000 pack price x 3 factions flagships = 15,000 for all 3 packs ( 9 ships total )
Oh how I wish I could get 5,000 back so I'd have paid 10,000 for 9 ships !!!!!
So u want us to spent our Zen on a Bundle u get 3 nearly identical ships with the same stats, weaponslots, turn etc. ONLY Console Layout is different and u get a unique set console.
So what do u think makes this worth spending 5000 or even 10 000 zen on it??
Indeed , however this time you get a LOT LESS .
How much less ?
So ... , asking for a 100$ worth of Zen , and didn't even bother to put up a LoR sized expansion .
As a matter of fact , when they did put out LoR they "sold" the accompanying 100$+ ship pack as a bunch of different ships + keys + Liberated Reman Borg + other stuff .
NOW you're supposed to "buy" the accompanying 100$ ship pack because Cryptic .... gave you a FE , while they simultaneously made you grind for the ships you're about to buy and they took away your weekly Bonus Marks ?
Good for you Cryptic ! :rolleyes:
... and even better for the suckers who will fall for this ...
This would be funnier if not for the fact that it actually will work. Because, y'know, hoo-mons. They really are that stupid.
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just tryed to comment on this blogs thread it took me to a post adout act plug in.
Im sure ive seen posts by dev saying there dont like add ons to there games now there linking u to a thread about it :-P
Oh well, I'll reiterate what I said earlier and what I remember (which isn't much, couldn't tell you what I had for breakfast this morning - heh, okay - I had two cigarettes for breakfast)...
If it is supposed to be a Science Vessel that can go into Tac Mode, then why are they not set up like that in the least? Why are they set up like a Destroyer (yeah, yeah - it's in the name - we should have all seen it coming) that can drop Tac Mode for a little extra Sci action? With the base models, the path was clear for having Sci Vessels that could go Tac. That's no longer the case with the Zen versions. They're Destroyers that can drop Tac.
All because of the Lt Uni instead of the Ens Uni. Yep, you drop the Sci - you're dropping the Sci...like...DUH! Course, a Ens Uni without the Lt Uni would hurt sales to all the Escort kiddies that want to play STO like The Last Starfighter instead of Star Trek. So like all the other compromises made for the unholy dollar...yeah, we can see where Cryptic went. Meh...
As for the folks complaining about the ship that it's just a +1 Console ship - I've got no idea how they're missing the +10% hull and +10% shield mod. I mean, it's like 2nd Grade math at most (heh, math I'm comfortable with...that 3rd Grade math gets pesky!). But yeah, they're you're standard +1/+10%/+10% Fleet/2500 Zen boats...along with the "shiny" that is common to the majority (but not all) of the Zen boats.
As for the folks complaining about the similarities of each of the three boats, and beyond that the similarities of all nine boats - again, did they not even bother to read the blogs? Yeah, you're going to see the standard 3pack operating procedure with each of the 3packs - not much different than anything that they've done over the years with them. Why folks are acting as if this is something new...blows my mind. As for saying they're all the same, even with just the two blogs for the KDF and Roms - it was clear that wasn't the case. Hell, one can look at the free RA boats to see that wasn't the case.
Just a bunch of random forum noise - mindless ranting and raving - no thought...the typical forum fodder that takes place and why some folks avoid areas of these forums like the plague...a plague of stupidity...meh. Seriously, 2nd Grade math and not even 2nd Grade reading...and so many folks are failing to the extreme - it's epic - if you like watching The World's Dumbest on TruTV.
But anyway, yeah - Cryptic should be honest with where they took the ships for the Zen versions - they're not Science Vessels that go Tac, they're Destroyers (just like in the name) that can drop Tac...or go Sci. So change up the narrative and the ability, from going to Tac Mode to going to Sci Mode...and at least be honest about this nonsense rather than making folks think you were actually doing a Sci Vessel...
These ships held so much promise and potential, but in my opinion what stats have been released so far has made me not want to get any of them.
You fuse a Proton DHC to the ship, why? Why on earth is this piece of junk fused on to my ship? Lets all face the facts, Proton weapons = bad. Since this ship is forced to carry a bad weapon from the start, why on earth would I want to use it?
I really liked the concept of switching between tactical and science loadout mid combat. I thought that this was a fantastic idea that would be further expanded upon with the 3 pack ships. Instead it was basically a few console layout changes, big deal.
I would have much rather seen a tactical and engineering mode added where you could have swapped real quick between these types of layouts.
All in all, these ships to me had a lot of potential, but unfortunately I don't think even a single one of them is going to be worth using to me.
Your comment is noise to me. Frankly a 10% increase is not much.
First, There are plenty of ships close to the same hull and shield requiring no extra goodies.
Second, Who in the hell create ships sets with a weapon type that cannot be updated? When was the last time you seen proton weapons in the dithium store or fleet weapon store. Thirdly, The ships are not truly unique looking to their faction except the Romulan version?.
Fourth, Cryptic made the different bridge skin available to free ships after complaints about the bridge?
Fifth, the bridges do not look like hybrid bridges.
SIxth, No faction specific skin. Sixth, most of the performance you can get from other ships that are more specialized.
Seven, it's ultra bs. I can think of other points. I can continue ...
also another disappointment is the ability to change the skin. I'd rather my warbirds look romulan personal preference. the dyson skin looks awful imo but the shape of the romulan warbird tempts me. but I wouldn't part with a single penny on a ship I thought was fugly. you don't buy your dream car in a colour you don't like if you catch my drift.
Everybody's welcome to their opinions...
It's standard. Every Fleet ship and any Fleet quality Zen ship has a 10% boost for hull and shield mod over what would constitute their predecessor. It's consistent. It's the way things are done. Can see where somebody might not think it much - if they've got no idea about the mechanics behind it and what that 10% increase can mean once you work in the skills/gear/resistances to get to the effective totals.
Wait, so you're saying that Cryptic has tried to balance ships - cause there are plenty of ships that are pretty close to one another? Curious...
The slot only exists for that weapon. It's no different than certain ships having certain abilities that other ships do not have. Certain Cruisers have four Cruiser Commands, some have three, and there's two sets of two...some ships have Sensor Analysis, some don't - some ships have X, some don't. These ships have the Proton DHCs in Tac Mode...other ships don't.
Er...Dyson Rep?
Really? You're joking, right? The Fed Destroyers look like Fed Cruisers, the Rom Destroyers look like Rom Warbirds, and the KDF Destroyers look like KDF Battle Cruisers. Yeah, you have to be joking...
Um, yeah...I don't put on the slow jazz and invite guys that are girls or girls that are guys to my bridge - so I've got nothing to say about bridges.
Um yeah, bridges...um...not trying to be dismissive of any complaints about them in the least, I know there are folks that get all bent out of shape about them and stuff...but honestly, outside of a couple of missions where you have to go inside the ship - yeah, I don't go inside the ship. So I can't really comment on those folks that like to log in to STO to stand around inside their ships...how they waste their time, er spend their time, is up to them - and Cryptic should listen to their complaints for all the overall value those complaints have...
Wouldn't that have been sixth? Meh, but I suppose it's extremely important for the folks that are playing the Barbie 'n Ken Star Fashionstravaganza, eh? Then again, there are several ships out there with zero customization options...
What ship can do what these ships can do?
What you posted? Yep...pretty much. /shrug
Ditto this for the Romulan version. Next!
Though the last part comes off as extremely shallow, with the work they've done with this blog post: http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=1094401 :it's definitely surprising that the DSDs weren't included, eh? It's just one of those logical things, eh? Not so much the style over substance and need to look pretty that's come across in some of the posts, but rather just the logical thing...
The same would go for any of the ships though, these aren't the first ships that get "screwed" in this manner...but yeah, faction - should have the option for faction skins - based on the player, not the ship. If folks want to sport the Joint Command skin, awesome - if they want to sport the skin of their faction...it's only logical that it should be available, eh?
PWE definitely needs to get those payment things straightened out...it's not something that affects me, cause I'm er - here - not there - but it's just one of those illogical things that's freaking annoying, eh? You don't want to see somebody else end up jacked over something like that...
Regarding the Secondary Deflector, they may have actually wanted not to give away that they were doing these ships (although everybody knew) - so it may be something that's addressed when they're released...though outside of the beta groups that test the ships, I'm not sure how you'd know that it actually didn't work with the other ships...and if you were part of one of those groups, well - you couldn't tell us about it...so just speculation?