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Season 8 Dev Blog #23
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Lead Content Designer Charles Gray shares details about the second Spire Featured Project in this entry of the Season 8 News Dev Blog series.
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...Seriously, though, the default interior to the Fleet Spire is extremely dull, and the lounge will go a long way towards changing that.
yes but at a cost of 200k dilithium
DELTA PRICE RISING
How about some REAL exploration while you guys are at it, too, please. The Voth can't be everywhere inside the Sphere, right?
just keep adding more projects that so many fleets won't be able to complete even in years to come since they just won't be able to pay for them!
u know what? i don't complain bout stuff like that being added to the game but that they are so expensive, since they don't grand a dime of usefulness to the game. THEY JUST COST!
at least make em cheaper and don't use em as a tool to make players play the game even longer just to GRIND for resources! only thing u achieve is burn out players.
met so many ppl in game that have abandoned their fleets (left a single char in) and went on to other fleets since they didn't get anywhere.
and while im at it:
make the reputation easier for ppl that have many chars. u already made it better but it's not enough. all u devs prolly only have one char but imagine u have 8 (like me) or more.
i stopped making new chars since i just can't catch up with reputation on all of them. why would i try the different factions flavours (eng,Sci,Tac) when i can't play em not maxed but least with good skills, fits, passives (rep passive skills). for e.g. a romulan eng would play different than a klink/fed eng right? ships n stuff make so much difference gameplay wise. now tell me why in hell would i make more toons if i can't bring em up to par with my other toons??? it's still too tedious grinding for expertise n marks and whatnot,...
sorry for my rant, just saying.
thanks for reading
regards
thanks a lot!
Like it or not, the main purpose of these visual upgrades is to give fleets -- especially large fleets -- another means of gaining fleet credits and increasing demand for dilithium (and zen).
If they were cheaper in Dil, they'd be worth less in fleet credits. And less lucrative for Cryptic, presumably.
Our fleet simply cannot sustain them at this time, so we aren't queuing them up. Last one we did was the Enterprise display. We've done three of them in all, I believe, and looking back I wish we'd saved the dilithium if we could have.
Now if there's anybody out there with 200K dilithium to burn and a hunger for fleet credits, I'll be happy to extend you an invite and queue one up just for you.
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While I appreciate the effort in doing this, it would be far more beneficial if Cryptic was able to allow the entire community of STO to participate in the building of these areas, just as it should be for building a new Romulus, not exclusive to that of starbase fleets. Not everyone like myself are in a fleet, but want to participate in the building of assets within the game itself and obtaining those benefits. Just something to think about.
I still have that 'windows' project from the starbase slotted. I sent a fleet mail to the fleet asking them what they thought of 200K of dilithium being needed for windows. They all said 200K wasn't worth it. That's 30 people that find 200K to be ridiculous.
I haven't bothered to slot any of the other special projects for the embassy, mine, or spire. 50K is all these stupid projects are worth.
Yeah, it's a nice way to earn quick large amounts of fleet credits. But it takes forever to earn Diltihum for small fleets to do these projects. And Dilithium is needed for these Fleet Projects.
At the current rate my little fleets are progressing, it literally will take 7 years to finish all these projects, while Large Fleets are done the same day (and Fleet Holdings within a month). That's why small fleets are on their knees asking for major discounts, else what's the point in grinding for years?
Assume Dilithium is Zen and Zen is Real Money.
This puts a higher burden on those who contribute daily to those who barley contribute, but they share the same reward.
In my fleet we introduce the rule to divide dilithium costs for fleet projects evenly by the number of players. I assure you that it is extremely easy to build a fleet when all members have an obligation the contribute.
We created our fleet March 9/2013 2:33 pm.
We are only 11 players and here is our progress:
Starbase - Embassy - Mine - Spire
If we can do it, you can do it
Guess what buddy, there are people called causal players who have to work for a living and put food on the table for a family. They don't have time to spend 24/7 in STO grinding away Fleet Marks and Dilithum to upgrade a fleet. And they certainly don't have money to buy Zen and convert that to Dilithium. And they refuse to give up and go to a Tier 5 fleet, because they have a thing called friends and to some, family play together.
That's why many small and casual fleets are growing angrier, because Cryptic fails to acknowledge them and they are fans just as anyone else.
Since the baseline for fleet is based on the assumption of 25 man fleets, and these projects cost 200,000 dill, that translates to 8000 dil per player, or one days worth of refinement. Seems a reasonable cost to me.
You guys did notice that right? The ceiling turns into a mini-planetarium....
I agree... those doff assignments you find are all potential points for a ground mission for your captain instead. It felt like there might have been the possibility to do that, but maybe the deadline to release S8 left that bit on the cutting room floor, replaced with doff assignments?
While I'm in a small fleet and would love the opportunity to acquire this, we're in the middle of several Upgrades that actually improve the Holdings themselves. The Dev Blog did say that "Completion of these special projects will unlock new features to expand the functionality and appearance of your Spire"; could you elaborate on what functions (beyond the cosmetic) are being included in this upgrade? For example, do the replicators in the background actually work, and do they have a lower price than standard vendors for food and drink consumables? Does lounging in the chairs and staring up at the stars provide a "relaxation bonus" or whatnot that improves mental debuff resistances for a limited time? Or some other functional improvement?
Don't let them fool you, functionality is just that, cosmetic. The first was opening / closing the shutters, this one is merely letting you sit down at the table.
What frustrates me is when casual players walk in and expect everything in the game given to them without putting in any effort, or money, or anything.
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Even the starbases in the fleet(s) that I'm in are always deserted, except for a few planned events...
When my KDF fleet ran into a brick wall with getting fleet credits ... I began to respect these a LOT more as it gave us a way for fleet members to earn them.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
We've got Lounge ...
....a Bar ...
but .... NO BARTENDER !!!!!
After a trip between two quadrant, a small cold beer would be nice.
Cryptic allow us to get the bartender before dehydration makes us leave the dinosaur' land
Sorry for my bad english, i'm french
Seriously though can next featured project show both Fed and KDF screenshots, don't think I would have been as inspired to do KDF if I knew it would be kinda plain compared to Fed side.