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Ship proposal in honor of Mark Valentine aka 'H20rat'

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    eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,092 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    druhin wrote: »
    I fully support this endeavor. However, I think it would be too "small" to only rename a ship in Task Force Omega (U.S.S. Valentine). Hardly anyone needs to visit the Task Force anymore since they revamped the Omega grind.

    The Klingons have their "Hall of Warriors" in honor of fallen warriors. Why not utilize an area (possibly in the "state room") of Earth's Spacedock, with a statue of Mr Valentine (in uniform ofcourse). I'd also support adding various notable former Cryptic developers to this Federation "Hall of Warriors". People such as CapnLogan come to mind. But naturally having Mr Valentine as the Warrior of Honor within such hall.

    I whole heartedly agree, that is why I have suggested tweaking season 8 to incorporate a memorial to Mark, and use the official launch day of season 8 to be made a permanent memorial for him. I have no idea what season 8 has instore for us (only what has been released thus far) so I was thinking as part of the new feature episode maybe us Captains will have to take mission instruction from a digitally created version of Admiral Mark Valentine. Mostly though Mark HAS to given a permanent reminder in the game.

    Even if it means postponing season 8 launch, personally I for one wouldn't care as long as Mark is remembered.
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,996 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The STO community could design a memorial ship
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      eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,092 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      The STO community could design a memorial ship

      I don't totally disagree with your idea, but it may lead to conflict. Any ship designing should ultimately come from the devs, and those at Cryptic as they know Mark better than most.
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      johnnymo1johnnymo1 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      a npc hero ship in a mission would be a great tribute!
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      rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      Despite the war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, both sides have been able to cooperate when faced with external threats.
      The Omega Task Force, created to combat the Borg, being the best example.

      In the spirit of this, Omega Force has commissioned a new type of ship to deal with the Borg threat.

      The early days of the project were fraught with suspicion and issues of technology sharing, however despite the problems the work was finally done.

      This project was named the Valentine.

      Federation scientists liked the name because of St Valentines connection as the patron saint of love. Klingons were impressed with how Valentine faced death at the hand of Emperor Claudius.

      The Valentine ship is a hybrid of an escort and a science vessel.

      Using the escorts weapon set up, but with a much more science based bridge officer configuration, the Valentine is designed to be able to cope with the Borgs nanite based attacks while retaining the maneuverability and damage output of an escort.

      It is also designed to be resistent to plasma damage, with many onboard systems mitigating such effects. However, this comes at a cost of making the ship somewhat more vulnerable to other forms of energy damage.

      As a science type ship it retains the ability to target subsystems innately, but loses sensor scan as Borg dont use cloaks.

      An unexpected bonus came when the Romulans came onboard. As a result the Valentine uses a singularity rather than a warp core. Although it lacks all the whistles and bells of a standard Romulan singularity, it retains some of the abilities.

      There is an ongoing negotiation to fit the Valentine with a Romulan battle cloak.






      *Basically, I'm proposing a cross faction anti-borg ship.It could have elements of all three factions and would be designed, very specifically, for STFs and anti-Borg activities. It would also be gimped somewhat for other activities, for balance sake.
      Put it on the C-Store, put half the profits from its sales to an appropriate charity.

      I'd buy it.*
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      willdaviesalpha1willdaviesalpha1 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I support this idea
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      conundrum129conundrum129 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      rinkster wrote: »
      Despite the war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, both sides have been able to cooperate when faced with external threats.
      The Omega Task Force, created to combat the Borg, being the best example.

      In the spirit of this, Omega Force has commissioned a new type of ship to deal with the Borg threat.

      The early days of the project were fraught with suspicion and issues of technology sharing, however despite the problems the work was finally done.

      This project was named the Valentine.

      Federation scientists liked the name because of St Valentines connection as the patron saint of love. Klingons were impressed with how Valentine faced death at the hand of Emperor Claudius.

      The Valentine ship is a hybrid of an escort and a science vessel.

      Using the escorts weapon set up, but with a much more science based bridge officer configuration, the Valentine is designed to be able to cope with the Borgs nanite based attacks while retaining the maneuverability and damage output of an escort.

      It is also designed to be resistent to plasma damage, with many onboard systems mitigating such effects. However, this comes at a cost of making the ship somewhat more vulnerable to other forms of energy damage.

      As a science type ship it retains the ability to target subsystems innately, but loses sensor scan as Borg dont use cloaks.

      An unexpected bonus came when the Romulans came onboard. As a result the Valentine uses a singularity rather than a warp core. Although it lacks all the whistles and bells of a standard Romulan singularity, it retains some of the abilities.

      There is an ongoing negotiation to fit the Valentine with a Romulan battle cloak.






      *Basically, I'm proposing a cross faction anti-borg ship.It could have elements of all three factions and would be designed, very specifically, for STFs and anti-Borg activities. It would also be gimped somewhat for other activities, for balance sake.
      Put it on the C-Store, put half the profits from its sales to an appropriate charity.

      I'd buy it.*

      +1 I like this idea.
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      astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      A lot of very good ideas coming up in this thread, but that being said, there have been a lot of escorts lately that have been released.

      Nothing against escorts cause I love flying the kumari as most of my toons are tac, but maybe a joint cruiser project would be cool too, just for a change of pace.
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      kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      +1 I support this initiative.
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      lynceusglynceusg Member Posts: 8 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I can raise a glass to this overall idea. May he rest in peace - giving him a place among the stars in the game he worked so hard on seems a fine tribute.
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      ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      This is a lovely idea. I think it's the least Cryptic can do for him since he made such awesome work.
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      ironphoenix113ironphoenix113 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      /signed here too. This is definitely an excellent idea.
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      starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      Agree with the cross-faction cruiser idea. Double agree with the send percentage of sales to cancer charity idea.
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      adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I Support the idea to name a ship class in his honor,

      the idea to add a memorial at the acadamy

      and the the addition to the hall of warriors

      make it so
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      captwcaptw Member Posts: 492 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I would agree with this idea, the man who gave so much for this game.
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      ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I did not know Mr. Valentine. I never met him in game.

      But its quite obvious to me the impact this man had on STO, not only as an employee, but as a member of the community. I won't say he should be honored.

      He NEEDS to be honored.

      And I would hope that Cryptic will find an appropriate way to do so, that will reflect his contribution to STO. A way which will memorialize the man respectfully and with the dignity he deserves.

      If it's a new ship, I would buy it even if I didn't like it, so long as the majority of the proceeds went to cancer research. (That was a good idea)

      RIP Mr. Valentine.


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      nakedcrooknakedcrook Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      The Feds should get a Starting Very Rare Boff (like the Romulans and KDF Do) and name that boff Mark Valentine.
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      khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      No offense to the man, but I wouldn't want to stick Mark in my ship, not when I know why he's there........

      This has gone far enough. I don't want to be negative but calling for something for all factions, all races is by definition... looney.

      I mean, to truly accomodate all styles its going to have:

      3x LtComm unis and 1 Lt uni
      9x universal console slots
      3x device slots
      1x hangar slot
      middle stats to everything
      look really strange
      probably has a battle cloak

      I guess the redeeming point would be that it gets a passive console that grants 10% damage buff in pve queued content...

      Col Valentine as an Omega Force representative however would avoid any of the 'favoratism' any final decision the devs are going to make if they do make a ship.


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      adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      khayuung wrote: »
      No offense to the man, but I wouldn't want to stick Mark in my ship, not when I know why he's there........

      This has gone far enough. I don't want to be negative but calling for something for all factions, all races is by definition... looney.

      I mean, to truly accomodate all styles its going to have:

      3x LtComm unis and 1 Lt uni
      9x universal console slots
      3x device slots
      1x hangar slot
      middle stats to everything
      look really strange
      probably has a battle cloak

      They needn't make a whole new ship perhaps, Just rename one they already have in development ( they must have something in the backroom so to speak) maybe make a valentine Costume for something
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      taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      100 % Agree with OP !!!
      And this is an excellent tribute idea sir

      This would be a great homage, to someone who helped bring STO into our lives.
      Mr. Valentine, thank you for your efforts.

      Whether you end up in Heaven, Sto'Ka'Vor, Valhalla.. or some other spiritual plain, I hope your spirit is at peace and free to race across the universe and observe all the wonders a great Star Fleet Captain would experience and MORE, May you travel as effortlessly as a Q throughout the space/time continum.

      I wish you luck on your new journey. You have certainly made my life a little more enjoyable.

      To PWE, I hope all who knew Mark, and worked with him over the years, is given strength to continue on, and work with him in mind and heart.

      To Mr. Valentines family and friends, I offer my greatest condolences, and best wishes.
      Godbless

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      rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,276 Community Moderator
      edited September 2013
      I will support some form of in game tribute, such as an NPC ship or even making his Foundry mission official. Mr. Valentine should be honored for his contributions. Maybe make a new ship appear in Task Force Omega that is an Ambassador class named USS Valentine.
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      astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      If they redo the galaxy class like they said they were thinking about, maybe renaming one Valentine varient would work.
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      willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
      edited September 2013
      I support a new class and a NPC ship as long as its a static ship like the ships that fly around Earth Spacedock or one of the Task force Ships. I dont support a NPC ship that we would have to fight against in a mission. I dont want to destroy it.
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      astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
      edited October 2013
      I support a new class and a NPC ship as long as its a static ship like the ships that fly around Earth Spacedock or one of the Task force Ships. I dont support a NPC ship that we would have to fight against in a mission. I dont want to destroy it.



      I agree. maybe one of the new Avenger class ships can be renamed?
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      sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited October 2013
      I don't know if he'd want his name on a ship that's shown to be so polarizing.

      My suggestion would be an ally ship that shows up randomly in STFs. Whatever class he liked, give it his weapon setups and everything, call it the U.S.S Valentine, or, call it what he called his, and make it look like a player character, with his name above the ship's name.
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      gr8captaingr8captain Member Posts: 35 Arc User
      edited October 2013
      I completely agree with this, I would love to see a completely new ship designed by a player of STO and voted on by us.
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      mscowboymscowboy Member Posts: 231 Arc User
      edited October 2013
      I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't love to see this happen.
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      chance74chance74 Member Posts: 51 Arc User
      edited October 2013
      sevmrage wrote: »
      I don't know if he'd want his name on a ship that's shown to be so polarizing.

      My suggestion would be an ally ship that shows up randomly in STFs. Whatever class he liked, give it his weapon setups and everything, call it the U.S.S Valentine, or, call it what he called his, and make it look like a player character, with his name above the ship's name.


      Hmm... How about when you use the fleet support skill one of the ships that shows up to your rescue is the U.S.S. Valentine? It could be a one-off custom ship or not... Just throwing the idea out there.
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      steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
      edited November 2013
      Full support from here also.
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