Both are FASA Romulan ship from the movie era of tos
The Klingon D-10 cruiser and the Fed Chanley frigate would also be bought on sight. Now that I think of it the Rom Winged Defender was used in the ST Legacy game. Does that mean CBS has rights to and can consider the FASA inspired ships cannon?
Both are FASA Romulan ship from the movie era of tos
The Klingon D-10 cruiser and the Fed Chanley frigate would also be bought on sight. Now that I think of it the Rom Winged Defender was used in the ST Legacy game. Does that mean CBS has rights to and can consider the FASA inspired ships cannon?
Probably not, as far as I know. At least back then the license for FASA was owned by Microsoft...and Legacy was first and foremost an XBOX 360 game.
Also, we do know that Microsoft and Mad Doc Entertainment cooperated previously on Dungeon Siege.
The main game was published by Microsoft while Mad Doc developed an expansion pack.
So the license is most likely still somewhere beyond CBS' reach.
And FASA material is not considered canon anyways because FASA has used a totally diffferent backstory from the year 2000 till the era of the movies, sometimes with totally differnt technologies.
Yes, they have. The new Star Trek movies are licensed by Paramount, not CBS. CBS has rights to the 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT) and the movies from The Motion Picture to Nemesis.
Our license with CBS is restricted to the TV Shows, the movies (up to Nemesis), the Animated Series, and some of the book fiction[...]
So the line is that stuff from the "Countdown" comics are fair game (like the Vault)...that includes that stuff that appeared also in the JJ movies while stuff that appeared exclusively in the JJ movies is out.
If they can get the Vesta in game which they dident have the rights to then they can get anything ST Related. Just depends on how much its wanted! Ships on the hit List I would like to see would be:
FBB (Yomatto Class) From SFC 1 / 2 and Klingon Academy
USS Archilles from Dominion Wars
USS Typhoon from ST Invasion
Apollo Class from SFC 1 / 2, ST Shattered Universe and ST Legacy
Arkroyal Class from ST: Legacy, SFC: 1 / 2 and ST: Shattered Universe
Borg Ships from ST Armada 1 / 2
Arnt some of these games published by different companies?
If they can get the Vesta in game which they dident have the rights to then they can get anything ST Related. Just depends on how much its wanted! Ships on the hit List I would like to see would be:
FBB (Yomatto Class) From SFC 1 / 2 and Klingon Academy
USS Archilles from Dominion Wars
USS Typhoon from ST Invasion
Apollo Class from SFC 1 / 2, ST Shattered Universe and ST Legacy
Arkroyal Class from ST: Legacy, SFC: 1 / 2 and ST: Shattered Universe
Borg Ships from ST Armada 1 / 2
Arnt some of these games published by different companies?
No can't they already specifically stated that they can't.
They can get some of the book materials. They can't get stuff from other game companies.
Just follow the link I posted above your post and read the answer there.
I'd love to see a Dreadnought, based on the book, "Dreadnought!", that featured Lt Piper, the U.S.S Star Empie. The way it was described, it was basically a Fleet Excelsior on frickin' 'roids!!!!:cool:
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butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Probably not, as far as I know. At least back then the license for FASA was owned by Microsoft...and Legacy was first and foremost an XBOX 360 game.
Also, we do know that Microsoft and Mad Doc Entertainment cooperated previously on Dungeon Siege.
The main game was published by Microsoft while Mad Doc developed an expansion pack.
So the license is most likely still somewhere beyond CBS' reach.
And FASA material is not considered canon anyways because FASA has used a totally diffferent backstory from the year 2000 till the era of the movies, sometimes with totally differnt technologies.
Actually, at the point that FASA made the RPG, pre-dated any Microsoft ownership, by several years (I think actually more than a decade). And technically, FASA itself was never owned by MS, only Fasa Studios were. FASA itself was bought out by WizKids, who for a little while, did reprint stuff for Mechwarrior 3rd ed and The last Battletech books (Under Classic Battletech titling), and the last books of Shadowrun also were redone by Wizkids, but were still 100% compatible, with the latest version that had been done by FASA. But The Star Trek RPG was never touched by WizKids.
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butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Wow I never knew anything about that, so that is how he got the eye patch...cool.
Even today it's a game with an incredible amount of atmosphere.
Videos of that quality between each mission (and sometimes in the midst of them) are just amazing.:)
No can't they already specifically stated that they can't.
They can get some of the book materials. They can't get stuff from other game companies.
Just follow the link I posted above your post and read the answer there.
I'd go with "haven't yet" rather than "can't".
Stahl's statement you linked seemed to be a matter of "this is what we can use right now".
Obtaining the rights for the Vesta, whilst difficult, probably wasn't as complicated as obtaining rights for a ship that is owned by another gaming company. Permission to use the Vesta in STO was, first and foremost, required from the individual who designed it - Mark Rademaker. I suspect that the publishers who use the class in their books had to be consulted too.
So far as I am aware, the rights to the Typhon belong to Activision. Obtaining the rights for something that belongs to another gaming company would, I imagine, be a lot more difficult. Furthermore, I can't imagine why Activision would be interested, considering the legalities etc, in selling rights to a rather old product to a rival gaming company.
From a more optimistic point of view.... sitting on the rights doesn't do Activision any good, so why not?
As much as I hate to admit it... the K'vort class battle cruiser/bird of prey. Two reasons for this:
1) The ambiguity of what the ship is supposed to be and its function. At 350m (or something like that) this ship can easily be classified as a battle cruiser (and it is in canon). But it's also a bird of prey. Which means that because of CRYPTIC's classing system having battle cruisers and birds of prey separate, CRYPTIC probably doesn't know what to do with it, so they've gone the lazy route and decided to do nothing.
2) Because of those giant cannons on its wings *cough, wing cannons, cough* the only real obvious role for the K'vort is as a KDF version of the Kumari. However, since one of the Kumari variants has 5 tac consoles and 5 forward weapons, a cloaking version of this would be way OP.
However, I guess maybe it's for the best. They probably wouldn't do this ship justice. It would need at least 4 tac consoles and a tac commander slot or (if given a eng commander) a tac lt. commander and tac lt.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
At some point, based on what was listed in the "Upcoming Content" section of the STO Wiki, some of the starship classes featured in "The Best of Both Worlds" "graveyard" scene were supposed to make it into the game at some point. However, a recent interview has thrown that out the window, as far as I'm concerned.
Apparently, some of these "kit bashes" won't hold up to the scrutiny of the community. Which, translated from dev speak, means that the devs don't like them, so they won't make it to the game in the future.
Which, of course, is nonsense. If the Centaur can pass muster, then the devs could cook up a nice in-game model of the Freedom or New Orleans.
Then again, when one considers the accusations of developer preference being a key factor in a couple of debates on these boards (Galaxy Class shortcomings and a couple of Tier 5 related controversies), if the devs won't put their heart into a newly introduced ship class, preferences aside, then maybe it's best to leave them be to avoid unnecessary bickering here on the boards.
The mobile platform and carrier from star trek invasion the uss typhon (NX 85808) and ofc the valkyrie ships as hangar pets and as a personal fighter with all of its weapon
Didn't stall say there was a chance of the "USS Archilles" or something like it. Maybe a design biased of it? I think it would be nice to get some of these ships mentioned.
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Romulan V-9 Whitewind
Both are FASA Romulan ship from the movie era of tos
The Klingon D-10 cruiser and the Fed Chanley frigate would also be bought on sight. Now that I think of it the Rom Winged Defender was used in the ST Legacy game. Does that mean CBS has rights to and can consider the FASA inspired ships cannon?
Probably not, as far as I know. At least back then the license for FASA was owned by Microsoft...and Legacy was first and foremost an XBOX 360 game.
Also, we do know that Microsoft and Mad Doc Entertainment cooperated previously on Dungeon Siege.
The main game was published by Microsoft while Mad Doc developed an expansion pack.
So the license is most likely still somewhere beyond CBS' reach.
And FASA material is not considered canon anyways because FASA has used a totally diffferent backstory from the year 2000 till the era of the movies, sometimes with totally differnt technologies.
Also, it's 'canon', not 'cannon'.
Cannon is this:
http://larsbrownworth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Cannon.jpg
My character Tsin'xing
Yes, they have. The new Star Trek movies are licensed by Paramount, not CBS. CBS has rights to the 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT) and the movies from The Motion Picture to Nemesis.
http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=800861
They have:
So the line is that stuff from the "Countdown" comics are fair game (like the Vault)...that includes that stuff that appeared also in the JJ movies while stuff that appeared exclusively in the JJ movies is out.
FBB (Yomatto Class) From SFC 1 / 2 and Klingon Academy
USS Archilles from Dominion Wars
USS Typhoon from ST Invasion
Apollo Class from SFC 1 / 2, ST Shattered Universe and ST Legacy
Arkroyal Class from ST: Legacy, SFC: 1 / 2 and ST: Shattered Universe
Borg Ships from ST Armada 1 / 2
Arnt some of these games published by different companies?
No can't they already specifically stated that they can't.
They can get some of the book materials. They can't get stuff from other game companies.
Just follow the link I posted above your post and read the answer there.
USS Saratoga: play schmerhaps?
*lights go off
....schmerhaps not!
cause sometimes its party time!
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Actually, at the point that FASA made the RPG, pre-dated any Microsoft ownership, by several years (I think actually more than a decade). And technically, FASA itself was never owned by MS, only Fasa Studios were. FASA itself was bought out by WizKids, who for a little while, did reprint stuff for Mechwarrior 3rd ed and The last Battletech books (Under Classic Battletech titling), and the last books of Shadowrun also were redone by Wizkids, but were still 100% compatible, with the latest version that had been done by FASA. But The Star Trek RPG was never touched by WizKids.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
HA i say
You call THAT a cannon?
http://cdn.gajitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/tiny-cannon.jpg
Even today it's a game with an incredible amount of atmosphere.
Videos of that quality between each mission (and sometimes in the midst of them) are just amazing.:)
Okay, not exactly what I'd expected.
My hats off to you.
Those are some rather tiny balls he got there.:P
-Sorry for hijacking the thread. Just had to.
I want to slap that hand, just so I can hear, "oh, my balls!".
And something OT. A console, we'll call it the Notgonnahappenium Mk XII, that makes Sci powers useful again.
GOOD JJVerse blows, over blown story, over dramatized CGI graphics, comedic lines ( all they need is stop gap phrasing *ie James T Kirk ) .
JJVerse is the "new" Hollywood, "give them pretty lights, lots of violence, and make money"
Stahl's statement you linked seemed to be a matter of "this is what we can use right now".
My character Tsin'xing
My character Tsin'xing
1) The ambiguity of what the ship is supposed to be and its function. At 350m (or something like that) this ship can easily be classified as a battle cruiser (and it is in canon). But it's also a bird of prey. Which means that because of CRYPTIC's classing system having battle cruisers and birds of prey separate, CRYPTIC probably doesn't know what to do with it, so they've gone the lazy route and decided to do nothing.
2) Because of those giant cannons on its wings *cough, wing cannons, cough* the only real obvious role for the K'vort is as a KDF version of the Kumari. However, since one of the Kumari variants has 5 tac consoles and 5 forward weapons, a cloaking version of this would be way OP.
However, I guess maybe it's for the best. They probably wouldn't do this ship justice. It would need at least 4 tac consoles and a tac commander slot or (if given a eng commander) a tac lt. commander and tac lt.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Apparently, some of these "kit bashes" won't hold up to the scrutiny of the community. Which, translated from dev speak, means that the devs don't like them, so they won't make it to the game in the future.
Which, of course, is nonsense. If the Centaur can pass muster, then the devs could cook up a nice in-game model of the Freedom or New Orleans.
Then again, when one considers the accusations of developer preference being a key factor in a couple of debates on these boards (Galaxy Class shortcomings and a couple of Tier 5 related controversies), if the devs won't put their heart into a newly introduced ship class, preferences aside, then maybe it's best to leave them be to avoid unnecessary bickering here on the boards.
Because Activision/Blizzard would not be particularly interested in doing something for a competitor?
"[...]this license doesn?t extend to other video games[...]" is pretty specific isn't it?
Where is even a hint of "yet" in there?