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Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
JK :P Congratulations!! I really gotta get in a run with you guys.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Well Brandon we're ready when you are to get in touch but I guess it's been hard to find the time. Anything to help boost NWS awareness I'm ready to help with just let our group know when you can make it.
they really need to add some costume,pet or something .People think Kirk's Protege is a roleplaying title.
Join the queue and campaign for more trophies and stuff. I've been after my own statue in the great hall (or maybe now the hall of heroes on Khitomer) for some time and the feds can have their own too .
I always thought that the no win scenario title "kirk's protege" should be the kobayashi maru doff mission title and the "cheated death" title should be the no win title.
i agree there should be something more than just the title like a trophy just to start with. how about one of or all of the following.
1 free or purchasable special ship class unlock
2 a title passive like +5% defense and +5% attack
3 a special console of some sort
4 a passive that permanently adds a bonus % to the marks you earn in game
there are so many possible rewards that could be attached to the no win scenario and a reward besides a title would get more players trying to beat it.
I always thought that the no win scenario title "kirk's protege" should be the kobayashi maru doff mission title and the "cheated death" title should be the no win title.
i agree there should be something more than just the title like a trophy just to start with. how about one of or all of the following.
1 free or purchasable special ship class unlock
2 a title passive like +5% defense and +5% attack
3 a special console of some sort
4 a passive that permanently adds a bonus % to the marks you earn in game
there are so many possible rewards that could be attached to the no win scenario and a reward besides a title would get more players trying to beat it.
no ,there should not be anything to improve or give people an advantage in pvp,but a ship costume or a ground costume or some other thing to want but not give any advantage would be great.
I agree that there are so many rewards and its really weird why theres nothing.Fleet marks are not a reward ,thats some grind side effect and those who beat no win dont do it for few fleet marks.
no ,there should not be anything to improve or give people an advantage in pvp,but a ships costume or a ground costume or some other thing to want but not give any advantage would be great.
I agree that there are so many rewards and its really weird why theres nothing.Fleet marks are not a reward ,thats some grind side effect and those who beat no win dont do it for few fleet marks.
What you mean rep passives don't give an unfair advantage? What about fleet equipment? Accolade damage resistance?
Gotta grind for all that. Why not add something else too?
What you mean rep passives don't give an unfair advantage? What about fleet equipment? Accolade damage resistance?
Gotta grind for all that. Why not add something else too?
because people should not be forced to beat the most hard pve mission .Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair.Costumes or other cosmetic stuffs do not give advantages ,are visible and people cant say "x cosmetic thing gives an unfair advantage over me".
once you give something that gives an advantage people will want to have it and play it.When they will see they cant beat it fast people will ask no win to be nerfed (it was already nerfed by adding Scimitars in game) .Same thing happened to elite stfs.
because people should not be forced to beat the most hard pve mission .Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair.Costumes or other cosmetic stuffs do not give advantages ,are visible and people cant say "x cosmetic thing gives an unfair advantage over me".
once you give something that gives an advantage people will want to have it and play it.When they will see they cant beat it fast people will ask no win to be nerfed (it was already nerfed by adding Scimitars in game) .Same thing happened to elite stfs.
What?
Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair?
How 2 do rep system pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
How 2 rank up fleet base pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
Besides no one would force them to beat it. No one would force them to play it. If they want whatever bonus it would give, then you gotta grind for it. Just like everything else.
no ,there should not be anything to improve or give people an advantage in pvp,but a ship costume or a ground costume or some other thing to want but not give any advantage would be great.
I agree that there are so many rewards and its really weird why theres nothing.Fleet marks are not a reward ,thats some grind side effect and those who beat no win dont do it for few fleet marks.
an extra % bonus marks earned passive would be a great reward.
there are all sorts of passive bonuses like rep and accolades and gear.
pvp is a broken system and should be separated from the rest of the game and reworked and possibly given its own servers. as of right now pvp is a pay to win, keybind, hacker bot fest with very little balanced game play.
Honestly I don't think they should give any gameplay advantage because it's something most players won't be able to achieve. No other missions/accolades give any other advantages except for NPC kills, damage dealt/resistance.
Reputation/fleet gear etc easily comes under more easily to obtain grind work which can be done several ways in smaller, easy to do missions. Assimilation gives a borg science officer but that's about it.
Personally a novelty item like a trophy would be consistent with other similar achievements.
Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair?
How 2 do rep system pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
How 2 rank up fleet base pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
Besides no one would force them to beat it. No one would force them to play it. If they want whatever bonus it would give, then you gotta grind for it. Just like everything else.
show me where I said rep passives are ok!
when that will happen people will want it nerfed.happend before with elite stfs.
as of right now pvp is a pay to win, keybind, hacker bot fest with very little balanced game play.
and how is it pay to win?
Yes theres TIF and nukara mines and few other grind to annoying things like placate....most are grind to annoy and break team work.
How many people use bots in pvp?How many afk in pvp? Guess which one happens more.
things that come from boxes or fleets that cost money or dilithium which equals money
ships like the bug and other box or lobi ships
fleet ships that cost fleet modules
special purple doffs
top of the line consoles
weapons, ship gear from boxes, fleets and rep which all cost money or dil
all these things cost real cash or the dilitium equivalent
sure most of these can be found in the exchange but players buy keys,doff packs,fleet modules and etc to sell so they can buy the other stuff they want.
pay to win is everywhere!
as for the grinding for stuff thats great for those that dont want to pay but should they be handicapped to grind for 6 months just to be on equal footing with the pay to win pvp players.
things that come from boxes or fleets that cost money or dilithium which equals money
ships like the bug and other box or lobi ships
fleet ships that cost fleet modules
special purple doffs
top of the line consoles
weapons, ship gear from boxes, fleets and rep which all cost money or dil
all these things cost real cash or the dilitium equivalent
sure most of these can be found in the exchange but players buy keys,doff packs,fleet modules and etc to sell so they can buy the other stuff they want.
pay to win is everywhere!
as for the grinding for stuff thats great for those that dont want to pay but should they be handicapped to grind for 6 months just to be on equal footing with the pay to win pvp players.
so you cant buy lockbox ships from exchange with ec?
You cant buy fleet modules?
What are those special purple doffs? Are they tradeable?
Top of the line consoles cost dilithium and fleet credits.
You probably want to have the top gear without playing nor paying for them.
pay to win cliche everywhere ffs.Every person who cant spend some time to go in the pvp boot camp and gets stomped by pvp'ers has to use that stupid cliche.
how you know how long pvp players grind? You talk like the grind only affects you.
Why should a new player have the same advantages as a player who has played for years?
Before rep system you could get maco and omega mk XII in drops in stfs .Everyone said back then "its too hard and I have to play it too many times"....next step was "make all elite stf easy and move the best rewards in a grind store".
So do like you say and the next step for no win will be a rep store .Happend before and it will happen again.
I think this thread's run it's course now and we're entering the debate of mission rewards/bonuses and borderline pay2win which is not what this thread's about.
I think this thread's run it's course now and we're entering the debate of mission rewards/bonuses and borderline pay2win which is not what this thread's about.
JK :P Congratulations!! I really gotta get in a run with you guys.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
On behalf of the Sector 31 ANTKB gaming community and our fleet leader, Roki, I thank you for your congratulations and interest in our humble achievement with the No-Win Scenario. We would be more than happy to welcome you as a special guest on our fleet teamspeak server so you can join us as part of the fun in attempting to beat STO's greatest challenge. I would be happy to refer you to Roki anytime you're ready to arrange a mutually agreeable date and time that works best for you and our fleet.
Thank you again for your kind words and interest! =D
Gratz you may want to go to stowiki and add yourselves to the Hall of Fame (link's on the no win page). Did you use the stowiki strategy?
I'd love to see a video of you using this strategy and naturally you completing it. Romulans aren't overpowered, not by a long shot. 100% Fed or KDF teams have beaten NWS and with less toys/powers long before the Romulans came out.
Yep they used your startegy Silverwings. We've been training members of our fleet using your guide. I've beaten NWS on my fed toon and romulan toon and still need to do my kdf toon.
Yep they used your startegy Silverwings. We've been training members of our fleet using your guide. I've beaten NWS on my fed toon and romulan toon and still need to do my kdf toon.
I'm thrilled but had a team that helped me. We'll have to sort out seeing who'd like to join our NWS channel if you haven't already since Clinsat's already in.
I'm thrilled but had a team that helped me. We'll have to sort out seeing who'd like to join our NWS channel if you haven't already since Clinsat's already in.
I'm thrilled but had a team that helped me. We'll have to sort out seeing who'd like to join our NWS channel if you haven't already since Clinsat's already in.
What is the name of the NWS channel ?? Is the same i use, Kirk's protege ??
Im not in the hall of fame, beat it on 3 charaters but lost my password on stowiki and im lazy...
But im a member of kirk's protege (s), the elite channel of dps-11000
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Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
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Roleplayed Kirk alot to get that
JK :P Congratulations!! I really gotta get in a run with you guys.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
You better be willing to jump on Teamspeak so we can carry you through it :P
Kirk's Protege.
Bone trader, fed tac- fleet advance escort: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8206/dbpp.png
Bone1970, fed tac- fleet advance escort : http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1511/0ha2.jpg
Bone2, kdf engineer- kar'fi carrier : http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1939/xcqr.jpg
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
Me too!! I've not got past wave 5 I think it was!
Such a long time since I've run that mission!
Congrats btw
Well Brandon we're ready when you are to get in touch but I guess it's been hard to find the time. Anything to help boost NWS awareness I'm ready to help with just let our group know when you can make it.
they really need to add some costume,pet or something .People think Kirk's Protege is a roleplaying title.
Join the queue and campaign for more trophies and stuff. I've been after my own statue in the great hall (or maybe now the hall of heroes on Khitomer) for some time and the feds can have their own too
i agree there should be something more than just the title like a trophy just to start with. how about one of or all of the following.
1 free or purchasable special ship class unlock
2 a title passive like +5% defense and +5% attack
3 a special console of some sort
4 a passive that permanently adds a bonus % to the marks you earn in game
there are so many possible rewards that could be attached to the no win scenario and a reward besides a title would get more players trying to beat it.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
no ,there should not be anything to improve or give people an advantage in pvp,but a ship costume or a ground costume or some other thing to want but not give any advantage would be great.
I agree that there are so many rewards and its really weird why theres nothing.Fleet marks are not a reward ,thats some grind side effect and those who beat no win dont do it for few fleet marks.
What you mean rep passives don't give an unfair advantage? What about fleet equipment? Accolade damage resistance?
Gotta grind for all that. Why not add something else too?
because people should not be forced to beat the most hard pve mission .Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair.Costumes or other cosmetic stuffs do not give advantages ,are visible and people cant say "x cosmetic thing gives an unfair advantage over me".
once you give something that gives an advantage people will want to have it and play it.When they will see they cant beat it fast people will ask no win to be nerfed (it was already nerfed by adding Scimitars in game) .Same thing happened to elite stfs.
What?
Giving people a pvp advantage by beating a pve mission is not fair?
How 2 do rep system pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
How 2 rank up fleet base pl0x? You gotta do pve missions to do it.
Besides no one would force them to beat it. No one would force them to play it. If they want whatever bonus it would give, then you gotta grind for it. Just like everything else.
an extra % bonus marks earned passive would be a great reward.
there are all sorts of passive bonuses like rep and accolades and gear.
pvp is a broken system and should be separated from the rest of the game and reworked and possibly given its own servers. as of right now pvp is a pay to win, keybind, hacker bot fest with very little balanced game play.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
Reputation/fleet gear etc easily comes under more easily to obtain grind work which can be done several ways in smaller, easy to do missions. Assimilation gives a borg science officer but that's about it.
Personally a novelty item like a trophy would be consistent with other similar achievements.
show me where I said rep passives are ok!
when that will happen people will want it nerfed.happend before with elite stfs.
and how is it pay to win?
Yes theres TIF and nukara mines and few other grind to annoying things like placate....most are grind to annoy and break team work.
How many people use bots in pvp?How many afk in pvp? Guess which one happens more.
things that come from boxes or fleets that cost money or dilithium which equals money
ships like the bug and other box or lobi ships
fleet ships that cost fleet modules
special purple doffs
top of the line consoles
weapons, ship gear from boxes, fleets and rep which all cost money or dil
all these things cost real cash or the dilitium equivalent
sure most of these can be found in the exchange but players buy keys,doff packs,fleet modules and etc to sell so they can buy the other stuff they want.
pay to win is everywhere!
as for the grinding for stuff thats great for those that dont want to pay but should they be handicapped to grind for 6 months just to be on equal footing with the pay to win pvp players.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
so you cant buy lockbox ships from exchange with ec?
You cant buy fleet modules?
What are those special purple doffs? Are they tradeable?
Top of the line consoles cost dilithium and fleet credits.
You probably want to have the top gear without playing nor paying for them.
pay to win cliche everywhere ffs.Every person who cant spend some time to go in the pvp boot camp and gets stomped by pvp'ers has to use that stupid cliche.
how you know how long pvp players grind? You talk like the grind only affects you.
Before rep system you could get maco and omega mk XII in drops in stfs .Everyone said back then "its too hard and I have to play it too many times"....next step was "make all elite stf easy and move the best rewards in a grind store".
So do like you say and the next step for no win will be a rep store .Happend before and it will happen again.
agreed now how about adding that no win trophy
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
How about a floor trophy of the Kobayashi transport rotating/hovering? A bust of Kirk's head in bronze? Nice ideas I think :cool:.
how about adding places for trophies on lockbox ships.From what Ive seen most new bridges dont have a space for trophies.
On behalf of the Sector 31 ANTKB gaming community and our fleet leader, Roki, I thank you for your congratulations and interest in our humble achievement with the No-Win Scenario. We would be more than happy to welcome you as a special guest on our fleet teamspeak server so you can join us as part of the fun in attempting to beat STO's greatest challenge. I would be happy to refer you to Roki anytime you're ready to arrange a mutually agreeable date and time that works best for you and our fleet.
Thank you again for your kind words and interest! =D
Yep they used your startegy Silverwings. We've been training members of our fleet using your guide. I've beaten NWS on my fed toon and romulan toon and still need to do my kdf toon.
I'm thrilled but had a team that helped me. We'll have to sort out seeing who'd like to join our NWS channel if you haven't already since Clinsat's already in.
Do it, we could really use some fresh blood!
Kirk's Protege.
What is the name of the NWS channel ?? Is the same i use, Kirk's protege ??
Im not in the hall of fame, beat it on 3 charaters but lost my password on stowiki and im lazy...
But im a member of kirk's protege (s), the elite channel of dps-11000
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.