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damainx
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Please, make all the equipment purchasable by everyone in the fleet and not just a select few.
This is what I've noticed: Even though I donate a LOT, and the leader finally opens up the fleet stores to me so I can buy equipment, I see that most of the XII stuff is already gone. Probably purchased by the leader(s).
I get so mad that I've spent so much to donate only to get 2nd rate equipment all due to Cryptic's fleet policies.
This is what I've noticed: Even though I donate a LOT, and the leader finally opens up the fleet stores to me so I can buy equipment, I see that most of the XII stuff is already gone. Probably purchased by the leader(s).
I get so mad that I've spent so much to donate only to get 2nd rate equipment all due to Cryptic's fleet policies.
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You are at the mercy of your slave master - er - fleet leader
Cryptic takes a hands off policy on fleet policies and politics - probably always will.
You could always ask that a provisioning project be put up for you as well.
After all, any fleet credit you've earned will come with you.
Long story short, Heck NO.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
I thought most fleet gear was bound - how/what can you sell?
The Tier 5 fed fleet I am in, almost always has the fleet stores closed for everyone, (except the leader and he doesn't buy it all up).
In my KDF fleet our stores are always 100% open, with donation level to get access to the store set at 200k (rather low imo).
In case you consider changing your fleet there's a section on the forums where fleets look for people
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79&order=desc
If you are interested in the fleet I am in see here http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=361281
i think you are mistaken on how the fleet system works..
if you dont have access to the XII stuff, your fleet is not high enough.. or you dont have enough dil/fleet credits to buy it.
one can not buy up all of the XII items.. lol.. its based on provisions and if the fleet has some you can buy any items in the store with them..
as for making it open to everyone.. its not a good idea.. because then you will get people to join the fleet, buy stuff from the stores then leave, without donating anything.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
Of course you can buy up everything. You have to run projects to provision the stores. They give you a limited number of items that can be bought from the stores, then you have to reprovision them.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
no, you cant just buy the xii items and leave the x and xi for everyone else..
if you have 1 provision, you have access to the whole store.
im guessing the OPs fleet is a low level. or he doesnt have the fc/dil requirements and the items are not clickable.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
Which is why the policies exist. Fleets don't want someone to show up with a couple hundred thousand fleet credits, and then just buy everything they want and leave the fleet.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Guess that depends on how you interpret the OP's post. For me he says that the fleet leaders buy them empty and he gets second rate equipment because he can't get fleet stuff. Where does he say that they leave Mk X and Mk XI in the stores?
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
this is what he said.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
Yeah, that's what I read.:rolleyes: Considering the there are different types of provisions I see nothing wrong with my interpretation. If there's one provision left for ground weapons and armor and zero for other stuff that qualifies as "most of the XII stuff is already gone".....
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
hmm maybe the kdf fleets work different.. lol..
when i buy something from the fleet store it says on top x amount of provisions..
you can buy anything in the store with 1 provision, if you have enough fc/dil.
the embassy i believe is the only store that sells x and xi items.. it needs to be t3 to get xii consoles, t2 for xi and t1 for x..
the fleet stores everything comes in xii form..
the elite weapons and items are grayed out and can not be purchased until you are T3/T4/T5..
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
It's the Embassy and now the Mine that show the X, XI, XII items
As far as I see there are different provision projects for different item categories, depending on the development track that unlocks them and if they are for ground or space.
Okay folks, you still don't get it. The OP does nowhere mention Mk X or Mk XI. So let's try another example.
The OP goes to the bakery and wants to buy six loaves of bread. The bakery only has 1 loaf. So he says "most of the bread was already gone". That's an information about bread. He does not say that the bakery still had plenty of cake and croissants and seriously, no one would claim that he did.
Now a more specific STO-related example:
The OP goes to the fleet store to buy 6 advanced fleet antiproton arrays Mk XII to replace his old Mk XI gear from the exchange. There's only one provision left, so he goes on the forums and writes "most of the XII stuff is already gone". Now you claim that he says that there's still Mk X and Mk XI stuff.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
It is well known in my fleet if a certain provision is low or empty and you want to buy something the best option is to contact a officer or myself personally and myself or senior officer will slot a provisioning project. The other thing that is needed is help contribute to the provisioning projects and earn the fleet credits so one could obtain the item they want.
If you don't like your current fleet policies then you should find another fleet. I know this as a Fleet leader. If I started receiving complaints and there are people leaving the fleet more then usual I would then have to evaluate my leadership and fleet policies.
And in all honesty its not that hard to always have provisioning going if its needed. You still get half the experience as a normal mission and you can easily keep a nice surplus of supplies.
To make the projects move faster, I schedule the projects that reward the most XP first unless a provisioning project is needed. I do watch the fleet provisions and schedule provisioning projects as I feel needed but sometimes provisions go quicker then expected.
It's a waste of resources to have a large number of provisions beyond normal and expected consumption.
Yeah, its not gone, just out of Provisions, its nothing directly todo with the Fleet Leader. Mayb poor Provision Project Managing or just simply a *greedy* Fleet, mayb a few buying weapons they dont need and replacing it with something they like more.. overall wasting Fleet Provisions
Added: As one posted stated.. its better to have more then less.
-V
This proposal does sound far better, all any member would need is just the creds and dilith to buy from the store at any time they wanted. However this becomes a huge profit spot for high tier fleets, because they can sell an unlimited supply of goodies to those who want them making this abused more so than it is now. It's a 2 way street no matter how you look at it, good and a bad system.
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How much is a lot? Donating a lot of certain things gives you very little fleet credits. That's by design as some things are easy to come by.
If you are thinking about the Mine, there are NO fleets out there with greater than a T1 mine at the moment. So you can only get Mk X Warp Cores no matter where you go.
If your fleet hasn't leveled the embassy to tier 2 or tier 3, you'll also not be able to get anything higher than Mk X, which is still better than most Mk XI and XII stuff available at the moment. Hardly second rate.
Before you go off an blame fleet leaders for things, actually try to logically analyse the situation first. If you don't like your (presumably) small fleet you could always join a bigger one.
You have to spend a lot to level your Starbase/mine/embassy/future fleet holding in order to get the best equipment. That's just the way it is.
oh, lord I can see the chat now. zone chat would no longer be usable because it would be flooded with a constant 24 hour stream of spam from people offering to sell fleet invites so people can pick up the best fleet equipment and ships. Look at Earth Space Dock, theres almost always 5 or 6 people on there spamming requests for people to buy tier 5 fleet ships for 30 or 40 million ec. If they dropped the whole provisioning thing zone chat would become a nightmare
5-10 actives, 100+ in almost every provision, yet the leaders keep very tight-fisted with them and only allow "open house" every month or two (had one in June, no word of a July one).
What's the point of holding onto them?
You cannot use a Military provision to buy from the Engineering stores, so your fleet leaders need to provision every section.
Simply donating a lot in your own eyes, does not necessarily equal a lot in fleet credit terms. I can donate 1000's of commodities, but they are worth very little in fleet credits.
Also, your fleet might not have access to certain items if a part of the base needs constructing, as explained by others.
My fleet operates a policy of donating 200,000 fleet credits worth of stuff. This will get you full unlimited access to our stores for that character only.
Afaik, nearly every major fleet has a similar policy to protect the fleet from robbers.
Yep you can believe it would overflowing.
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