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  • mozart2222mozart2222 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This thread is a great use of everyone's time and effort.

    I wonder what is crazier, being so nuts about RP that you spend your free time throwing pretend dance beach parties and arguing with npc's OR getting so worked up over your pretend beach parties and arguments with imaginary friends you feel a need to post about.

    It's a trick question because anyone that would share with the public that these are the ways they spend their free time is damn lucky Reagan shut down all the state run institutions.
  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    mozart2222 wrote: »
    This thread is a great use of everyone's time and effort.

    I wonder what is crazier, being so nuts about RP that you spend your free time throwing pretend dance beach parties and arguing with npc's OR getting so worked up over your pretend beach parties and arguments with imaginary friends you feel a need to post about.

    It's a trick question because anyone that would share with the public that these are the ways they spend their free time is damn lucky Reagan shut down all the state run institutions.

    Yeah dude, it makes a whole lot less sense than going out and blowing 30 bucks at a theater, 50 bucks at a restaurant, and then 20 bucks on gas! Makes a WHOLE LOT LESS SENSE! Everyone is a bunch of crazies for enjoying gaming, general nerdery, and all things internet. Sorry I don't go out and pay O'Charleys fifty bucks for what I can do from Aldi for eight! Sorry I enjoy an interactive experience with other like minded and HILARIOUS individuals instead of paying money to see the latest Hollywood TRIBBLE! Oh and let me apologize for the disabled individuals and discriminated individuals who this game could be their only outlet to their world due to their disability or phobias. Apologies all around for those of us that have offended thee great sir! We prostrate ourselves before your infinite mercy. :cool:

    Also, on occasion, people laugh and enjoy a good bit of theater. A well constructed diatribe againt NPC gibberish can be solid GOLD. Now I understand you might think street performers lower the tone and you wish us banished to the bottom of the town for THE GREATER GOOD, but this isn't Sanford, you're not the town elders, and I'm not a man painted in a gold suit. So how does that twist your giblets Ralph?
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~BranFlakes
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  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    Yeah dude, it makes a whole lot less sense than going out and blowing 30 bucks at a theater, 50 bucks at a restaurant, and then 20 bucks on gas! Makes a WHOLE LOT LESS SENSE! Everyone is a bunch of crazies for enjoying gaming, general nerdery, and all things internet. Sorry I don't go out and pay O'Charleys fifty bucks for what I can do from Aldi for eight! Sorry I enjoy an interactive experience with other like minded and HILARIOUS individuals instead of paying money to see the latest Hollywood TRIBBLE! Oh and let me apologize for the disabled individuals and discriminated individuals who this game could be their only outlet to their world due to their disability or phobias. Apologies all around for those of us that have offended thee great sir! We prostrate ourselves before your infinite mercy. :cool:

    Also, on occasion, people laugh and enjoy a good bit of theater. A well constructed diatribe againt NPC gibberish can be solid GOLD. Now I understand you might think street performers lower the tone and you wish us banished to the bottom of the town for THE GREATER GOOD, but this isn't Sanford, you're not the town elders, and I'm not a man painted in a gold suit. So how does that twist your giblets Ralph?

    Look at this straw man argument. Are you actually unable to stay on topic or do you always feel compelled to try to derail threads?
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  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    devian666 wrote: »
    Look at this straw man argument. Are you actually unable to stay on topic or do you always feel compelled to try to derail threads?

    I ALWAYS feel compelled to derail threads dude that is my MO can't you see. Besides, I am pro-Dental, I have no beef with you, so I don't know why you feel I tried to pull a Straw-man on you. The show you guys put on I classified under all things internet. I have nothing but respect for the excellence you guys display, adherence to Trek knowledge, and just skillful methods of playing the game. I wish I could be so competent to be honest.
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    But those present were in on the joke.. and GM reports were filed.

    You are wasting GM time filing false reports? Wasting GM time isn't joke as you have stated.

    You have a completely insane agenda to harass Starfleet Dental. Your repeated harassment in conjunction with trolling our recruitment thread is highly inappropriate behaviour.
    I ALWAYS feel compelled to derail threads dude that is my MO can't you see. Besides, I am pro-Dental, I have no beef with you, so I don't know why you feel I tried to pull a Straw-man on you. The show you guys put on I classified under all things internet. I have nothing but respect for the excellence you guys display, adherence to Trek knowledge, and just skillful methods of playing the game. I wish I could be so competent to be honest.

    I don't take sides I look at a more even-handed approach. If you were posting ironically then so be it. The post appears to be non sequitur in relation to the discussion. It is quite literally difficult to make any rational sense of this thread.
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  • rsht0rsht0 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~BranFlakes
  • mozart2222mozart2222 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah dude, it makes a whole lot less sense than going out and blowing 30 bucks at a theater, 50 bucks at a restaurant, and then 20 bucks on gas! Makes a WHOLE LOT LESS SENSE! Everyone is a bunch of crazies for enjoying gaming, general nerdery, and all things internet. Sorry I don't go out and pay O'Charleys fifty bucks for what I can do from Aldi for eight! Sorry I enjoy an interactive experience with other like minded and HILARIOUS individuals instead of paying money to see the latest Hollywood TRIBBLE! Oh and let me apologize for the disabled individuals and discriminated individuals who this game could be their only outlet to their world due to their disability or phobias. Apologies all around for those of us that have offended thee great sir! We prostrate ourselves before your infinite mercy. :cool:

    Also, on occasion, people laugh and enjoy a good bit of theater. A well constructed diatribe againt NPC gibberish can be solid GOLD. Now I understand you might think street performers lower the tone and you wish us banished to the bottom of the town for THE GREATER GOOD, but this isn't Sanford, you're not the town elders, and I'm not a man painted in a gold suit. So how does that twist your giblets Ralph?

    Sweet effortpost bro, your dental invite is on it's way.
  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    devian666 wrote: »
    I don't take sides I look at a more even-handed approach. If you were posting ironically then so be it. The post appears to be non sequitur in relation to the discussion. It is quite literally difficult to make any rational sense of this thread.

    My satire and trolling takes many forms so I apologize for confusing you, but it is all done in the spirit of how off the wall this all is. In all truth and seriousness I am very pro-Dental, and also pro-RP, I am very against public ERP for sure as your fleet helpfully points out, go to yuor private bridges FFS! My wife and little sister play MMOs like WoW and are always having awful things said to them at Goldshire and elsewhere so I appreciate you guys keeping this game acceptable for all ages.
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • raventomoeraventomoe Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Now I don't RP or anything. I just go about my business as normal in the game. I am not going to argue whether this behavior is going on in game or not. If there is a chance it is, it should be looked into by the game team.

    However, I find that ignoring works. If you can't ignore them...than do something like this! AKA> Yell something nonsense right at them and than go back to your roleplay. It is possible to make them play their game by your rules and people like this HATE that.
    "The Multiverse, the ultimate frontier..."
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  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    mozart2222 wrote: »
    Sweet effortpost bro, your dental invite is on it's way.

    *chortle*
    :D

    Oh, and Dr. Lariat, CitrusFrog, you guys got no CLUE what is going on. Great success. xD That is the mark of DAMN good satire.
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    These kind of threads always remind me of 'SPY VS SPY' from MAD Magazine.

    Usually about as funny too.
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  • bughunter357bughunter357 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    They are dancing by the bank/exchange due to your fleet putting a dance ball over it non-stop

    does it interfere with you sending mail. working the exchange or anything else NO so stop crying
  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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    I posted the appropriate sections of the Terms of Service both for PWE/Cryptic games/services and also the section for the forums, nit because I intended to nit-pick the entire thing, or point out abuses on both sides of the coin as it where, but because I think we all need a reminder of exactly what is what.

    To be perfectly upfront and honest we all know the organization (I say organization because it comprises of 2-3 in-game fleets, but is the same group) that's being referred to in this thread. There's no logical reason to dance around the facts here.

    To make a point I'm going to mention a specific user, and if he so asks I'll remove this section of the post, but I think it's important to the overall purpose of my post. Nabreeki and I have definitely not seen eye to eye on certain things, and as I'm sure some of you know we've have some mud flinging back and fore a few times. We've also had times where we've really communicated well together in trying to devise different ways the game could be made better, and he's really provided some very useful and constructive feedback on some of my ideas.

    I do agree that some of the activities of this specific organization and others needs to be toned down and completely stopped when asked by the effected players. I also agree that in some instances the reaction to some activities has been overwhelmingly excessive as well.

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    One thing I don't remember seeing in all of the posts throughout the forums has been what polite attempts have people made in asking these individuals to cease their actions and their response. Maybe it's because I'm 32 and grew up in a time when if you had a problem with someone it was handled one on one, no BS, no weapons, no gang-ups, just two people settling up in whatever manner, and then it was done, forgotten, moved on from, and fixed.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Just came back from a real summer event, and a real theme park...and I got to say...some of you guys need to go out more.
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  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Just came back from a real summer event, and a real theme park...and I got to say...some of you guys need to go out more.

    I got to say, Samuel L. Jackson shoulda read the gorram Navy Seal copypasta. :confused: This thread needs him reading it in an authoritative voice for the OP. It would solve all problems.
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    rsht0 wrote: »
    You're ****ing weird, man.

    I agree. All I can gather from that wall of gibberish is that he is requesting that people file false GM tickets for the purpose of harassing my fleet.
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  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    voicesdark wrote: »
    The Following Sections are Directly from the PWE Terms of Service and from the Forums specific Terms of service respectfully:

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    (f) "Stalk," threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;
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    (i) Engage in, encourage, or promote any illegal activity, or any activity that violates these Terms or the Rules of Conduct;
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    PWE may take any actions and impose any penalties we deem necessary to discourage and punish any violation of these terms or any other illegal or inappropriate conduct, all without prior notice or warning. The determination as to whether a violation has occurred and who is responsible for such act is solely within PWE's discretion, and is based on what we deem best for the community and the Website. By using the Website, you agree you will be bound by PWE's determination as to whether a violation has occurred and any penalty we choose to implement.

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    Harassing Material
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    PWE Terms of Service Section 10, Sub-sections F , H, and N are the ones in question.

    (f) "Stalk," threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    (h) Impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the game or in Interactive Areas on the Site or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS) "spamming" or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or PWE employees;

    (n) Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.


    This directly relates to, but is not limited to the useage of Party Amplifiers in STFs and other "General population" gameplay. The continual usage by one or more players of devices such as Fire Extinguishers, Party poppers, and other like devices directly towards another player or players for an extended amount of time with the sole purpose of "griefing" or negatively affecting other players from enjoying the game. The practice of escalating such behavior and/or following another player or players to different locations or instances when asked to desist in such behavior that is rightfully regarded as being against the TOS, but negatively affecting another player or players experience in the game.


    I posted the appropriate sections of the Terms of Service both for PWE/Cryptic games/services and also the section for the forums, nit because I intended to nit-pick the entire thing, or point out abuses on both sides of the coin as it where, but because I think we all need a reminder of exactly what is what.

    To be perfectly upfront and honest we all know the organization (I say organization because it comprises of 2-3 in-game fleets, but is the same group) that's being referred to in this thread. There's no logical reason to dance around the facts here.

    To make a point I'm going to mention a specific user, and if he so asks I'll remove this section of the post, but I think it's important to the overall purpose of my post. Nabreeki and I have definitely not seen eye to eye on certain things, and as I'm sure some of you know we've have some mud flinging back and fore a few times. We've also had times where we've really communicated well together in trying to devise different ways the game could be made better, and he's really provided some very useful and constructive feedback on some of my ideas.

    I do agree that some of the activities of this specific organization and others needs to be toned down and completely stopped when asked by the effected players. I also agree that in some instances the reaction to some activities has been overwhelmingly excessive as well.

    One of the most fundamental aspects of the very core of Star Trek is mutual cooperation for the betterment of all. While we have Terms of Service as an outline for acceptable behavior, we shouldn't be running to it every time some does something we don't like. Instead we should be talking a page from Star Trek's philosophy and diplomatically defusing situations in a civilized manner, and then and only then if that's not possible then invoke some 3rd party help from a GM.

    One thing I don't remember seeing in all of the posts throughout the forums has been what polite attempts have people made in asking these individuals to cease their actions and their response. Maybe it's because I'm 32 and grew up in a time when if you had a problem with someone it was handled one on one, no BS, no weapons, no gang-ups, just two people settling up in whatever manner, and then it was done, forgotten, moved on from, and fixed.

    Look at that wall of text. Are you tired of trolling the Starfleet Dental recruitment thread?
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  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    devian666 wrote: »
    I agree. All I can gather from that wall of gibberish is that he is requesting that people file false GM tickets for the purpose of harassing my fleet.

    I'll have you know he graduated top of his class in the Navy Seals, and he has been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and he has over 300 confirmed kills. He is trained in gorilla warfare and he is the top sniper in the entire US armed forces...

    Sorry, couldn't resist. His threats have just amused me endlessly sir. TRIBBLE and vinegar.

    The only thing that I think would make this funnier, would be hearing that you guys done goofed and the consequences will NEVER be the same!
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    Well I hope I don't walk funny after he carries out his threats against us.
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  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Pretty classy how you all are throwing around Rosa Park's name on your page in a mocking, derogatory fashion. Does that help your recruiting also?
  • apedilbertapedilbert Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    For everyone who skips by oldkhemaraa's posts because they're too long, here's a summary:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4TsmWQpE2k
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arghh, girls, girls , You're both pretty, can I go home now.:P
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  • heartburzumheartburzum Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    Pretty classy how you all are throwing around Rosa Park's name on your page in a mocking, derogatory fashion. Does that help your recruiting also?

    I think you might have that backwards, I know sometimes words are hard. But as you can see if you actually read it, we are mocking someone else for thinking the issues they have are on the same level as the issues Rosa Parks had with segregation.
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  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    Pretty classy how you all are throwing around Rosa Park's name on your page in a mocking, derogatory fashion. Does that help your recruiting also?

    Reading comprehension escapes you.

    No actually you're just trying to defame us by trying to get an emotive response from readers by making out of context statements that are simply lies. Your coordinated attack on Dental is bizarre and ineffective. All you have done is undermine your public support by revealing your behaviour publicly. All by going crazy about discoballs.

    When I say we attract crackpots this thread is a prime example.
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  • psycholandlordpsycholandlord Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    Pretty classy how you all are throwing around Rosa Park's name on your page in a mocking, derogatory fashion. Does that help your recruiting also?

    Well Mr. gamer, had you even the most basic reading comprehensions skills, you would have been able to parse the fact that 1) Ms. Park's name was dropped once, and used in a wholly descriptive fashion, and 2) Said descriptive usage was a direct reference to a member of these forums equating private role-playing to segregation of race. Of course, instead of reading those and understanding the usage of the words, you simply latched onto it as an avenue of attack in aid of your agenda. It is, in fact, you, sir, that does a disservice to the individual in question by attempting to use mention of her name as ammunition for your hatred and defamation.

    And for the record, the answer to your question is yes - being healthy, sane individuals with a sense of perspective and basic comprehension skills does wonders for our recruitment.
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  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well that sure got the fire suppression unit out post-haste.
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited July 2013
    And for the record, the answer to your question is yes - being healthy, sane individuals with a sense of perspective and basic comprehension skills does wonders for our recruitment.

    As such I have added a link to this thread from our recruitment thread. It's a perfect example of the horrible players that try to drag us down to their level with baboon like behaviour. Not only are we a part of the best roleplaying fleet in STO but we don't have fleet members losing the plot if a game device is deployed which has no negative effects.
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  • heartburzumheartburzum Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    Well that sure got the fire suppression unit out post-haste.

    We take accusations of intolerance quite seriously.
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  • zekeferrignozekeferrigno Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    fourxgamer wrote: »
    Well that sure got the fire suppression unit out post-haste.

    Rofl...making deliberately ignorant statements that accuse an organization of racism usually will.

    I've been around enough to see they are usually the victims of racist remarks, not the perpetrators.
    Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
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