voicesdark you left it open to easily being misinterpreted, and it makes a bad impression. A way you could have communicated better is to frame it up to give it context. If you made a statement at the start indicating that the following is the popular belief, then continued with the statement it would have made a better first impression. This also would have communicated what you were trying to do.
The thing is the situation is far worse than what you have described. The person who made the death threat video had a disco ball popped by some random person with no association with Starfleet Dental. This is because they are using Starfleet Dental's name as some sort of boogeyman to control and bully their own fleet members. What we are increasingly seeing is cult like behaviour in the fake roleplaying guilds. I do not know what there intent is but it is disturbing behaviour that they are exhibiting. It does make me concerned for the well being of children involved in the fake roleplaying fleets.
If you look at that post I just edited it with a clarification at the bottom of the post and an apology for the misunderstanding.
I'm not aware of any death threat video, so I'm not sure exactly what the situation was, but the situation doesn't even matter as something like that is extremely uncalled for. Personally I don't see the big deal over the party amplifiers other than they shouldn't be used in ground events for any reason, other than that what's the big deal?
The only real problem I've ever had with anyone from your fleet was a couple of my friends and I were on voice chat on ESD trying to trade some thing between our characters and what not for a give away event we were doing and a few members of SFD came up to use and started with the poppers and fire extinguishers. It was making it hard to hear so we moved to a different spot and they followed us and started up again. I sent one of them a private message and explained everything and they apologized and left. It wasn't a big deal and was easily taken care of. That was shortly after the two year event so I can't speak for how the fleet dynamic and leadership is now, but I would expect the same courtesy as before.
I don't RP, so maybe I don't take it as seriously as others. I've used forum conversations between Nabreeki and myself as examples a few times because we've gotten into some seemingly heated discussions, now I know some of that was just a simple misunderstanding, but a lot of it has to do with passion for the game.
There is a simple respect and amount or courtesy that should be given and received, and so far again other than some simple misunderstandings it has always been there.
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but why aren't certain areas designated for different RP themes? Wouldn't that remove a lot of the problem?
that very article invalidates your claim, try reading before you post links to support your argument.
What is wrong with leaving people alone when they ask to be left alone?
I DM a forum based RPG and I can tell you that the cardinal sin of RPing is to mess with another RPer's character. I have banned people from my game for doing that. We do take these things very seriously, perhaps more so then you realize. So please, please leave us alone.
i guess we have 2 different interpretations of the same article then...
you have a right to ask people to leave you aleone in an MMO, but that doesn't mean that the other guy is bound by any law to follow your request. Your online avatar does not fall under the protective rights of your "private space"
if the harrassmanet was dragged into a real life situation, than we would be talking about harrasment...but in sto not even the real identites of people are revealed...nobody is getting harmed or molested in the real world, party poppers just can't do that, yet.
social networks like faebook are a different story, since real names are often involved and in almost all cyber bulling cases to date a real life connection was given.
In those situations you can really talk about it being dangerous cyber bulling, but not in STO and the use of party poppers...srsly.
Equalising those 2 things and calling people with party poppers in sto cyber bullys is actually an insult to the real victims.
anyway, this thread or "discussion" isn't really worth another minute of my time. People take themselves, this game and their role playing way too serious. If i had a friend with such an attitude i would be concerned about his mental health and his prioritys in life.
This is the second time I have asked you to stop harassing me in this thread. To date I have never seen you leave anyone alone. You repeatedly posted gibberish in our recruitment thread even though you were asked to stop. We are the victims of your repeated harassment.
Requesting that false tickets are filed against us when we are the victims of your harassment is completely inappropriate. The rules you have posted are there for the purpose of dealing with people like yourself.
Ahh but this is a DEBATE..
(man, people have GOT to read the memo's!)
Ya know Devian666, old false chineese proverb say, man who fling dung boud do get some on self.. And please, if you eat with that hand, I don't want to know it..
Tickets were only filed against those who were doing what the shouldn't and what was objectionable to those present to the best of MY knowlege.. If false ticket were filed later on causing all of you even more inconvenience maybe you shouldn't have pissed off so many people eh? And of course your fleet constant and no inconsiderable lack of any concept of honor hasn't helped matters any. I wouldn't surprise if some one has gone and filed fasls claims aginst your membership. After all, you have all done the same. And I would n't even put it past you bunch of low lifes to go in on straw man accounts and file patenetly obviously false GM tickets just to muddy the water.
Now, on another note. There is a little bit hidden in your post which is not obvious unless your looking for it. And I just knew I could depend on you guys to be messy. Your posting and its enherent complaint shows that apprently you did suffer some consequences from that garbage ya'll pulled Saturday the 6th.
Why would you be upset if you "got away with it"? If nothing happened? Going about claiming nothing happened to you, and then you turn around and practically confirm that yes indeed ya'll got your wrists whacked by complaining about "false" GM tickets filed against you. False... Thats an opinion. That they did get filed, and there was an effect destroys the illusion that Dental suffers no consequences. Must be a terrible shock that ya'll are so transparant.
*tosses up hands* I thought these were apponents worthy of me? What incompetants! They cannot help but reveal they've been stung! What phenominal arrogence to assume that no one can see the obvious. *sighs* Well, I could always go and play Eve again.... Naaaaa!
rsht0, you should write fan-fiction because I haven't laughed so hard in ages! Polyjuice potion...classic!
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
This is how to accurately communicate with other human beings. If you insist in using the English language to convey thoughts and ideas you should put some effort into forming them clearly and consistency.
P.S.
Please learn to spell Their, the amount of times I had to fix that mistake has engrained the idea that you might not understand how to spell that word.
I do not know what there intent is but it is disturbing behaviour that they are exhibiting. It does make me concerned for the well being of children involved in the fake roleplaying fleets.
Very next post even. You've typed a lot tonight, you're probably tired. Happens to all of us. Well-being is usually hyphenated also.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Very next post even. You've typed a lot tonight, you're probably tired. Happens to all of us. Well-being is usually hyphenated also.
--"hateful pub" (:
Like grimrak said, not the same person. The reason I pointed out that the OP needed to learn how to spell their, is when I was doing the corrections I found that they had made the same mistake about ten times in a single post.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
My point being, they should teach grammar to their friends first.
That's all.
Are you really going to equate the butchering of the English language by the OP with a single grammar error someone from my fleet made?
The entire point wasn't even that you shouldn't post if you don't have the best and most correct writing. It's that maybe if you are trying to be taken seriously you should at least put forth some basic effort to make sure you address the typos. All of the major browsers have a spell check and it takes next to no effort to use.
Typing like the OP makes me want to just skip reading the post (but I won't because reading them is too much fun.)
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Ahh you see, they're not trying to say anything.. they want people to be distraced..
They depend on player ignorance to do thier little snarky bits.. And then they have the arrogance and bad tate to go bragging about ti. They get called on it.. they play the victim card.. while also engaging in misdirecting, character assination, discounting, ad nausum.
They have no concept of honor, integraty, honestly. And look at all these posts.. most of them oh so pouty and realy essentially saying "It's not fair, you cant beat up on us for beating up on others.. its not fair!"
Old saying, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
I just got the heat turned up, and it sure is gett'n warmer.. Can ah offa ya'll a mint jilip?
Typing like the OP makes me want to just skip reading the post (but I won't because reading them is too much fun.)
The following is indeed a correlation:
Yeah, I think this is what really motivates your fleet(s). You like reading other peoples' role playing, you enjoy being around it. I think maybe it excites you.
Thank you dear leader for protecting us all by examining every single potentially naughty bio, conversation, etc. I see you posted a lot of your favorites which I imagine have been viewed many, many more times than the original poster would have managed. All the ones that titillated you the most have been memorialized.
Ahh you see, they're not trying to say anything.. they want people to be distraced..
They depend on player ignorance to do thier little snarky bits.. And then they have the arrogance and bad tate to go bragging about ti. They get called on it.. they play the victim card.. while also engaging in misdirecting, character assination, discounting, ad nausum.
They have no concept of honor, integraty, honestly. And look at all these posts.. most of them oh so pouty and realy essentially saying "It's not fair, you cant beat up on us for beating up on others.. its not fair!"
Old saying, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
I just got the heat turned up, and it sure is gett'n warmer.. Can ah offa ya'll a mint jilip?
Well, since your obviously just ignoring sound advice. I'll just rephrase your post in video form.
Never have I seen someone so delusional that they would be smug with the content of your posting. Such a low bar to set and that is really saying something.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
I'm confused. Is the OP using 2 accounts now to create a false impression of growing support, or are there actually two people spouting out near verbatim thoughts together here?
Well, if its the first option, I'll point out the increased level of hypocrisy of the OP.
_____________________________________________
"Second star on the right, and straight on till morning."
I'm confused. Is the OP using 2 accounts now to create a false impression of growing support, or are there actually two people spouting out near verbatim thoughts together here?
Well, if its the first option, I'll point out the increased level of hypocrisy of the OP.
lol yeah this is getting a bit muddled about isn't it? I'm still trying to figure out who placed the Anonymous call to the grammar swat police. Almost a whole page just of bickering over some simple grammar errors is not only kind of ridiculous, but doesn't really get anywhere either.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
please they don't do anything to afkers in STFs what makes you think they'll do something about this?
==== post above is from the1tigglet=====
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If you look at that post I just edited it with a clarification at the bottom of the post and an apology for the misunderstanding.
I'm not aware of any death threat video, so I'm not sure exactly what the situation was, but the situation doesn't even matter as something like that is extremely uncalled for. Personally I don't see the big deal over the party amplifiers other than they shouldn't be used in ground events for any reason, other than that what's the big deal?
The only real problem I've ever had with anyone from your fleet was a couple of my friends and I were on voice chat on ESD trying to trade some thing between our characters and what not for a give away event we were doing and a few members of SFD came up to use and started with the poppers and fire extinguishers. It was making it hard to hear so we moved to a different spot and they followed us and started up again. I sent one of them a private message and explained everything and they apologized and left. It wasn't a big deal and was easily taken care of. That was shortly after the two year event so I can't speak for how the fleet dynamic and leadership is now, but I would expect the same courtesy as before.
I don't RP, so maybe I don't take it as seriously as others. I've used forum conversations between Nabreeki and myself as examples a few times because we've gotten into some seemingly heated discussions, now I know some of that was just a simple misunderstanding, but a lot of it has to do with passion for the game.
There is a simple respect and amount or courtesy that should be given and received, and so far again other than some simple misunderstandings it has always been there.
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but why aren't certain areas designated for different RP themes? Wouldn't that remove a lot of the problem?
i guess we have 2 different interpretations of the same article then...
you have a right to ask people to leave you aleone in an MMO, but that doesn't mean that the other guy is bound by any law to follow your request. Your online avatar does not fall under the protective rights of your "private space"
if the harrassmanet was dragged into a real life situation, than we would be talking about harrasment...but in sto not even the real identites of people are revealed...nobody is getting harmed or molested in the real world, party poppers just can't do that, yet.
social networks like faebook are a different story, since real names are often involved and in almost all cyber bulling cases to date a real life connection was given.
In those situations you can really talk about it being dangerous cyber bulling, but not in STO and the use of party poppers...srsly.
Equalising those 2 things and calling people with party poppers in sto cyber bullys is actually an insult to the real victims.
anyway, this thread or "discussion" isn't really worth another minute of my time. People take themselves, this game and their role playing way too serious. If i had a friend with such an attitude i would be concerned about his mental health and his prioritys in life.
Ahh but this is a DEBATE..
(man, people have GOT to read the memo's!)
Ya know Devian666, old false chineese proverb say, man who fling dung boud do get some on self.. And please, if you eat with that hand, I don't want to know it..
Tickets were only filed against those who were doing what the shouldn't and what was objectionable to those present to the best of MY knowlege.. If false ticket were filed later on causing all of you even more inconvenience maybe you shouldn't have pissed off so many people eh? And of course your fleet constant and no inconsiderable lack of any concept of honor hasn't helped matters any. I wouldn't surprise if some one has gone and filed fasls claims aginst your membership. After all, you have all done the same. And I would n't even put it past you bunch of low lifes to go in on straw man accounts and file patenetly obviously false GM tickets just to muddy the water.
Now, on another note. There is a little bit hidden in your post which is not obvious unless your looking for it. And I just knew I could depend on you guys to be messy. Your posting and its enherent complaint shows that apprently you did suffer some consequences from that garbage ya'll pulled Saturday the 6th.
Why would you be upset if you "got away with it"? If nothing happened? Going about claiming nothing happened to you, and then you turn around and practically confirm that yes indeed ya'll got your wrists whacked by complaining about "false" GM tickets filed against you. False... Thats an opinion. That they did get filed, and there was an effect destroys the illusion that Dental suffers no consequences. Must be a terrible shock that ya'll are so transparant.
*tosses up hands* I thought these were apponents worthy of me? What incompetants! They cannot help but reveal they've been stung! What phenominal arrogence to assume that no one can see the obvious. *sighs* Well, I could always go and play Eve again.... Naaaaa!
Khemaraa of the Iron Hand
Did you mean consistently?
Very next post even. You've typed a lot tonight, you're probably tired. Happens to all of us. Well-being is usually hyphenated also.
--"hateful pub" (:
Those quotes aren't from the same person. What are you even trying to say?
Like grimrak said, not the same person. The reason I pointed out that the OP needed to learn how to spell their, is when I was doing the corrections I found that they had made the same mistake about ten times in a single post.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
They're affiliated.
My point being, they should teach grammar to their friends first.
That's all.
Are you really going to equate the butchering of the English language by the OP with a single grammar error someone from my fleet made?
The entire point wasn't even that you shouldn't post if you don't have the best and most correct writing. It's that maybe if you are trying to be taken seriously you should at least put forth some basic effort to make sure you address the typos. All of the major browsers have a spell check and it takes next to no effort to use.
Typing like the OP makes me want to just skip reading the post (but I won't because reading them is too much fun.)
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
They depend on player ignorance to do thier little snarky bits.. And then they have the arrogance and bad tate to go bragging about ti. They get called on it.. they play the victim card.. while also engaging in misdirecting, character assination, discounting, ad nausum.
They have no concept of honor, integraty, honestly. And look at all these posts.. most of them oh so pouty and realy essentially saying "It's not fair, you cant beat up on us for beating up on others.. its not fair!"
Old saying, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
I just got the heat turned up, and it sure is gett'n warmer.. Can ah offa ya'll a mint jilip?
The following is indeed a correlation:
Yeah, I think this is what really motivates your fleet(s). You like reading other peoples' role playing, you enjoy being around it. I think maybe it excites you.
Thank you dear leader for protecting us all by examining every single potentially naughty bio, conversation, etc. I see you posted a lot of your favorites which I imagine have been viewed many, many more times than the original poster would have managed. All the ones that titillated you the most have been memorialized.
Well, since your obviously just ignoring sound advice. I'll just rephrase your post in video form.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dF2ZLq7oBk
Never have I seen someone so delusional that they would be smug with the content of your posting. Such a low bar to set and that is really saying something.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Well, if its the first option, I'll point out the increased level of hypocrisy of the OP.
"Second star on the right, and straight on till morning."
U.S.S. Weatherlight
lol yeah this is getting a bit muddled about isn't it? I'm still trying to figure out who placed the Anonymous call to the grammar swat police. Almost a whole page just of bickering over some simple grammar errors is not only kind of ridiculous, but doesn't really get anywhere either.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
All those funny little people with their problems.
==== post above is from the1tigglet=====
EDIT: This thread has been closed due to the numerous reported reports it has received, the flaming and trolling going on, the breaking of many other forum rules, ETC. Reopening similar thread will result in the same action.
BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: If you feel that you are being harassed in-game, please file a GM report in-game and the GM team will investigate -- the report automatically sends along a screenshot and chat logs. Please note that you will never get a response with the outcome of such investigation due to our privacy policy. Opening a thread about it on the forums is not allowed as no one on the forums is able to assist, so it becomes "naming and shaming".
If there is a post on the forums you wish to report for breaking the rules, please file a 'forums and website' ticket on our support site -- those go directly to the PWE Community team for investigation. Link is in my signature.
-Brandon