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Legacy of Romulus Dev Blog #23
pwebranflakes
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Systems Designer Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski shares details about the upcoming Fleet System expansion in this entry of the Legacy of Romulus News Dev Blog series.
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Given that the current implementation of the holding on Tribble doesn't even break even (IE: you put more into the mine than you'll save with an entire T5 starbase and full Embassy)...not so much.
Cryptic explicitly makes the argument in this blog "it'll pay off eventually". Yes it will. After another full fleet holding (and even then only assuming that you built the entire Starbase and Embassy with the mine discount, which very, very few fleets will do). But it does nothing in the short term to lessen the grind.
In other words, Stahl's hype about a "significant improvement" from the mine is a complete and utter lie.
Assuming it goes live in its current form. They have already upped the discount once, I'm hoping they'll do it again before launch. 10/15/20 seems fair to me, and we're not too far off!
Kirk's Protege.
On a second thought, I will just get beer to build our mine? :cool:
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
As long as we break even, I'm happy. Haven't tested this on tribble yet so I'll wait and see
Vice Admiral Dir Sonatra, I.R.W. Kholairlha, Scimitar Class Warbird
Vice Admiral Oshin S'ree, USS Steamrunner, Steamrunner Class
TEN FORWARD FLEET
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
While iron is technically possible to mine without any iron tools, there are no modern iron mines operating without the use of iron and steel equipment. Just like nearly all petroleum wells need refined petroleum fuels or lubricants.
STO uses dilithium as the universal stand in for unreplicateable materials, and nearly all advanced equipment requires some unreplicateable materials. If you want to run an efficient modern mine you'll need that advanced equipment.
There are actually two separate dilithium discounts found in the Dilithium Mine holding.
1) The first is the fleet project dilithium discount. This will reduce the dilithium required to complete a fleet project.
2) The second is the dilithium store discount. This will reduce the dilithium cost on almost every dilithium store in the game.
So, while neither of these discounts will reduce the input costs of personal reputation projects, any stores unlocked via a reputation will benefit from the second discount listed above.
For example: You unlock the Refracting Tetryon weapon projects from the Nukara Rep and your fleet has unlocked a Dilithium store discount. You will be able to buy these tetryon weapons at a discount as they are purchased from a dilithium store.
I hope that clears that up!
Best Regards,
Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski
I can only go by what something is, not what it might be. If the numbers change, another evaluation will obviously need to be made. At the current numbers however, I fully stand by my statement.
Make no mistake, Cryptic is already using that uppage as a smokescreen by claiming it's "feedback in action" (actual words taken from Bran's twitter). Given that the mine is slated to go live in two days, I highly doubt there's going to be any meaningful changes to make the mine anything more than another time and resource pit.
Since the current map is also where the existing asteroid mining map is... what will happen to our dil refinining claims we got from lockboxes. I have many claims that I only use when I won't make my daily refininng limit... but I still have a lot of them?
Do there become null and void, will there be some sort of conversion?
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
Had the discounts been 10, 20, 30% for each tier respectively, then maybe.
All this does is make the gap larger for new fleets, which then in turn makes starting a new fleet even more daunting.
So in fact, despite Dstahl proudly anouncing that this would 'help' new and old fleets alike, it actually makes it worse :rolleyes:
Oh, and hiding the new Armour and RCS console's behind this new paywall, just proves the point that they had no faith in that notion....:(
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
yes, but only very slightly, and you are part of a fleet that has completed the mine and has the daily missions available.
Thats pretty much all I gotta say.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
be so kind to point those out
sure i know the follow dignitary mission does not work for klingon charactors but all the rest are fun and a good way to earn fleet marks and keep an eye on the progress of the embassy its self.
and you can never get enough fleet marks i find.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Incidentally, I'm looking forward to these projects because it will give my fleeties more opportunity to earn fleet credits. Instead of being stuck at 5 projects like we are now, we'll be able to go seven projects...
Example - we have the T4 base upgraded sloted - but no dilithium of the 1.8 million has been added yet.
If we were to start the mine before continuing with the T4 upgrade in progress and get to T2 mine of 9% - will the sloted T4 upgrade be reduced 9%(not a refund on stuff filled - just a reduction on the unfilled sections)
This is a major deciding factor on whether to proceed with the mine first.
even though there is discounts unlocked through levelling the mine. is this the much talked about help for small fleets?? or is there something else in the works??
as this is for all fleets. it really will benefit those big fleets 1st. as they will level the mine far quicker.
if a small fleet is still levelling an embassy after 7 months. this still isn't the help they need even with a 15% discount.
I expect the current Dil mine to still be there. It'd be kinda like DS9/Bajor. They're both in the same "spot" but seperate locations when you approach.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
People, this is not about breaking even on dilithium, but about wicked new Neutronium consoles, and abso-****ing-lutely kick-TRIBBLE new Warp Cores! Mining dilithium is just a byproduct, really.